Housing Plot upgrade, is it still in the works

When housing was being introduced, it was mentioned that there would be an ability to upgrade to a larger plot. This was part of why we went with the Medium instead of holding out for a large.

The need for a large is here and we have the currency to do it. However there are a few problems.

1. To move to a larger plot of land we have to empty and dump the current house. Then gamble on the fact that a larger house will still be available. If that fails we end up with no house.

2. With regular houses going to individuals and groups hording large numbers of houses on person Fcs which they sell for cash (RMT), the situation is not improving.

Is the upgrade option ever going to be an option or was that cancelled when the personal housing fiasco was introduced?

Any information on this would be greatly appreciated from the Devs.

From the Live Letter.

Q: The number of members in my free company have increased, so I've been thinking about buying a new L-size house, but I'm wondering if I should wait for the moving system. Could you tell us about this feature and when we will see it in game?

A: Just as I mentioned on a previous occasion, we'll be adding land in Patch 3.3, and we're aiming to have apartment-style housing in Patch 3.4. The moving feature will come after that. As part of our future plans, we'll be making enhancements to our current server structure to support things like housing and expansions to the Armoury Chest.

So its gonna be a while. lol

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...29#post3659429

You're probably looking some time past September for a move feature at the very least. Remember that with a large you're getting a bigger inside, the same number of airships and one additional garden plot along with a bit more furniture space. If you want to move now you have a couple options.

Option 1: Obliterate the house/rooms the second a large is available and rush over to get it.

Option 2: Get some people with alts to create a second fc and grind it up to at least rank 6. Move the house gil over to the leader of that FC. When a large is available, purchase it with the alt FC. Rename the old FC something new, rename the new FC to the old FC name. Slowly have people transfer over at their leisure and make sure to leave notice for anyone that hasn't signed on in awhile. You now have two houses, 5 garden plots, eventually 8 airships available and you can make all your airship parts at the old house until you activate the recipes at the new one (if you even want to). I don't like promoting people gathering up multiple houses, but until an official method of moving is put in place, this is the smoothest way to transition I could think of. If you don't want to hold on to two houses, release it back into the wild or maybe find another fc that hasn't been able to get a house and give them a heads up as to the approx demolition time.

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Originally Posted by Valmar

From the Live Letter.

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So basically the infamous Yoshi P "Please look forward to it"

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

So basically the infamous Yoshi P "Please look forward to it"

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do you want them to answer questions or not? at least now we know it's not scheduled till after 3.4.

would you rather they duck/ignore the questions or lie?

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

do you want them to answer questions or not? at least now we know it's not scheduled till after 3.4.

would you rather they duck/ignore the questions or lie?

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That IS them ducking the question since we occasionally never hear another peep about it, or have you not ever paid attention to any live letter or interview lol

I could literally make a list of the "please look forward to it" and "as part of our future plans" answers that never ever were mentioned again.

So sorry for the resurrection of an old thread but here we are, post 3.4 and I'd really like to upgrade to a larger plot from my cottage with out the penalty of losing some items that can't be moved.

Any word that anyone's heard?

This is one of the things that is annoying most of the player base and is promised over and over again. This was first mentioned way back in 2013 and was told "we would have this after patch 2.2". Here we are now over 3 years later and still getting fed the same line.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(10-30-2013)

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Q: Can you move or reconstruct your house?
A: We're planning to have this after patch 2.2.

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Until I see an actual date I wont hold my breath.

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Originally Posted by krazybean

So sorry for the resurrection of an old thread but here we are, post 3.4 and I'd really like to upgrade to a larger plot from my cottage with out the penalty of losing some items that can't be moved.

Any word that anyone's heard?

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We haven't heard anything new yet. I don't expect to see it until 4.0 at the least with the info they've given so far, if ever. If you're itching to move, wait until patch 3.5 hits (just in case, but doubtful) and then decide if you'd rather wait it out or suck up the hit to items that will be destroyed. I believe the fanfest in february is when we should be getting the next chunk of information on the expansion.

New servers were hinted at for 4.0 & the abandonment of PS3 & potential optimisations could allow positive changes to housing. Don't expect anything before then, unless they sneak it into 3.55 in March as a way of building hype for 4.0.

I would like it if they adjusted the map to allow each plot to upgrade where the plot is. Pay gil to upgrade the plot. Does that make sense? Sure everyone would have a large house eventually, but shouldn't they be allowed to have one if they have the gil for it?

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Originally Posted by Acilith

I would like it if they adjusted the map to allow each plot to upgrade where the plot is.

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Realistically that's not possible though. Most of the small plots simply don't have the room to expand into large plots. They would be overlapping with multiple neighbours.

And even if that did happen, what about when a plot is relinquished/demolished... would it revert back to the original size or would we be left with wards full of nothing but expensive large houses?

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

And even if that did happen, what about when a plot is relinquished/demolished... would it revert back to the original size or would we be left with wards full of nothing but expensive large houses?

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I image the plots would all be large sized and the house itself would just expand with that type of setup. As you said though, it's not realistic for them to redo the current housing wards for this.

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Originally Posted by Acilith

I would like it if they adjusted the map to allow each plot to upgrade where the plot is. Pay gil to upgrade the plot. Does that make sense? Sure everyone would have a large house eventually, but shouldn't they be allowed to have one if they have the gil for it?

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I would hate this. The diversity of the plots is what makes it look good imo. Now if you are suggesting that with an instanced new zone, well. Have at it!

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Realistically that's not possible though. Most of the small plots simply don't have the room to expand into large plots. They would be overlapping with multiple neighbours.

And even if that did happen, what about when a plot is relinquished/demolished... would it revert back to the original size or would we be left with wards full of nothing but expensive large houses?

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That's why I said adjust the map. Totally remake the map so each plot has enough room to expand. I think all plots should start as small plots. Everyone who buys a house, everyone and anyone I've ever known, goes 'Oh ok small.. it's too small. We must upgrade. Now we must upgrade again.' I honestly think it's a nice solution to a problem we're going to see even if they DO give us the amount of wards we want. If we have enough houses to people ratio, guess what the next problem is? Not enough BIG houses.

There already is a diversity with plots, each plot is on a different spot on the map. It's cool enough to have a house on most packed servers, but what if you LIKE the location of the plot? You just want the plot size ON that location to be bigger? I don't see why housing needs to be so exclusive. I would be perfectly happy if they scrapped neighbourhoods altogether and put each house in its own instance, but that likely isn't going to happen because even more people like the wards. This game also NEEDS more of a gil sink, especially on servers like Balmung.

I'll also mention what's going on with Korean servers being merged currently. People who got houses after a certain ward? Their houses are simply being demolished so they can merge the servers. Will the NA low pop servers be next? Who knows. I know I probably don't have to worry about THIS issue since I'm on one of the most packed servers, but people who are not, they might want to cruise reddit a little for the thread and take a peek. If they DO merge servers into Balmung, my house is gone. I got it in a later ward. There's more problems with housing than just not being able to get a plot.

But my bottom line is, once you GET a house there's still issues. You can't 'legally' upgrade from plot to plot, even if you could? On Balmung? One lobby error during ward drop night in that massive queue? EVERYTHING is gone within MINUTES. And I mean EVERYTHING. Even if I hope one day they fix the number of houses on large pop servers, there is still problems on the horizon for all servers.

I both understand and like your idea. I own a cozy small plot Im fine with, but the thought of actually being able to upgrade it to the next size seems logical enough. Would it take some map reworking? Yeah, probably, and when someone demolishes one, the plot simply goes back to default size. Either way, Im sure nothings gonna really happen til Stormblood with the removal of ps3's limitations, so not looking for anything til then.