3.26 AST Change. . .

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Astrologian Collective Unconscious Can now be canceled by actions that render one unable to act such as stun.

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Can anyone tell me why this is even a thing? The uses were already fairly limited in battle, more so with how much people are moving around nonstop. I've heard people call it op as heck, but really? The CD is fairly long, it takes coordination (I cant even count the number of times people run out it before they even get the regen in solo q) It just seems like a pointless nerf to AST to lower their utility. I saw someone cheering over the nerf on reddit because it was an unfair free heal, excuse me? For starters its a regen, while a strong one people have to actually be in it for the regen to take effect. On top of that, YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ELSE WHILE CHANNELING. So unless you get the perfect timing where you hit the regen on everyone you want and cancel it yourself, you're SOL.


I really fail to see the purpose behind this nerf. It puts AST a step farther behind, and before you go and say 'but AST is really strong!!1' Their effectiveness really falls off fast when damage is spread out across multiple people.

TBH, I have no problems with it and AST is my healer main. I found it stupid that the skill is still in use while being stunned/etc. More so in Seal Rock when you can cap a node with it still open.

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Originally Posted by PotatoGirl

I saw someone cheering over the nerf on reddit because it was an unfair free heal, excuse me?

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AST only have two oGCD heals though, This and Essential Dignity.
By that logic, WHMs should get nerfs on Benediction, Asylum, Assize, and Tetragrammaton and SCH should get nerfs on Lustrate, Indomitability, both fairies' Embraces, and Eos's Whispering Dawn.

As an AST PVP main, I can say that this is hardly a nerf. It's really not a big deal. The three healers are all pretty equal atm, with AST still by far being the easiest to play.

Add a cast timer to sacred soil, sacred prism, (and that whm aoe regen) and allow that to be stunned plz :l Make the ground aoes equal XD

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Add a cast timer to sacred soil, sacred prism, (and that whm aoe regen) and allow that to be stunned plz :l Make the ground aoes equal XD

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Give them Lightspeed then.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

Give them Lightspeed then.

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Well, whms have an extra instant cast large heal, and a buff that increases spell speed, and schs have aetherflow stacks that are also instant, and a fairy that give the sch a spell speed buff, and it can heal while the SCH is stunned\slept, so maybe not. :P

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Well, whms have an extra instant cast large heal, and a buff that increases spell speed, and schs have aetherflow stacks that are also instant, and a fairy that can heal while the SCH is stunned\slept, so maybe not.

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And that, my friends, is what we call balance.

But Astros ground aoe is less balanced now ;-;

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Originally Posted by xxczx

And that, my friends, is what we call balance.

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you use the word balance, but I don't think you know what that means.

This must be you
https://i.gyazo.com/809810f008ce0978...d83e6cfc36.gif

Everyone please stop. AST is fine. Healers are balanced...

...Or should we add a cast time to aspected benefic? Would that make it better? Seriously, quit the whining. Every healer job has unique strengths and weaknesses.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Well, whms have an extra instant cast large heal, and a buff that increases spell speed, and schs have aetherflow stacks that are also instant, and a fairy that give the sch a spell speed buff, and it can heal while the SCH is stunned\slept, so maybe not. :P

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I didnt particularly want this change, but I wanted to clarify that SCHs cant micromanage while stunned. Eos/Selene is completely on her own embracing and we cannot ask her to Fey Caress (Aoe Esuna) while slept, for example. Its a sad thing. So SCH share this sort of incapacitated weakness there.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

This must be you
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Hilarious.

Its more that it takes roughly 2 seconds for the regen to even get applied to anyone within the bubble. This is ample time for you to get stunned and make the entire thing wasted. You can't waste any other instant cast/free heal, can you? No. Didn't think so. Tell me again how that is balanced?

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Originally Posted by PotatoGirl

Hilarious.

Its more that it takes roughly 2 seconds for the regen to even get applied to anyone within the bubble. This is ample time for you to get stunned and make the entire thing wasted. You can't waste any other instant cast/free heal, can you? No. Didn't think so. Tell me again how that is balanced?

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Because the opposing player would have to time their stun. If you use CO intelligently, you will be able to get the effects before a stun goes off. Also, if you're being focused and decide to use CO, you're doing something wrong. I mainly use it preemptively to stop burst, for 2 seconds, before switching back to healing, or I use it as a last resort when I run out of MP.

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Originally Posted by PotatoGirl

Hilarious.

Its more that it takes roughly 2 seconds for the regen to even get applied to anyone within the bubble. This is ample time for you to get stunned and make the entire thing wasted. You can't waste any other instant cast/free heal, can you? No. Didn't think so. Tell me again how that is balanced?

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You mean instant casts like Benediction and Hallowed Ground, where the effect doesn't activate but you lose the skill anyway?

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Originally Posted by Aeonk

You mean instant casts like Benediction and Hallowed Ground, where the effect doesn't activate but you lose the skill anyway?

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Hey, that has happened to my cards, my essential dignity, my light speed and my aoe stun move before ;-;

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Hey, that has happened to my cards, my essential dignity, my light speed and my aoe stun move before ;-;

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do they have a 5 min cooldown too?