Hi...
I have just that to say... People really love spam One shoot with LB ? It's just ugly... i dont understand why SE have give so many LB in feast for now... PvP start to become uninteresting... Where is the skill when you can use so many LB to one shoot everyone...?
I hope that will change and SE will see it was an error to do that or i think i'll not stay on the game long time...
Sieghilde Schtauffen
Why so many LB...???
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04-15-2016, 12:10 AMAlrogWhy so many LB...???
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04-15-2016, 12:21 AMClaireTagg
Better question: Why is DRK still useless in PVP?
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04-15-2016, 12:28 AMAlrog
Haha good question ^^ , maybe cuz he still keep no enough controls and so low burst...
But really... all those LB ruin the PvP experience...
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04-15-2016, 04:39 AMNessaWyvern
This is why I wear vit acc... So I survive the one-shot if I am close to full hp ;-;
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04-15-2016, 06:05 AMAlrog
Yeah vita accessories help a bit... but its stupid to get so many LB... we are here to fight and not one shoot everyone... atm Feast is just rush LB... where is the fun in that shit...
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04-15-2016, 06:50 AMCidolfas86It was my understanding that they increased the frequency of LB meters rising to make matches faster and more dynamic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alrog
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04-15-2016, 08:32 AMAlrog
If they really want their pvp became more dynamic they just need to reduce gcd x) or give us PvP without sync 150... More lb dont give us a more dynamic pvp , that just give us a pvp more retard and unskilled... nothing more :/
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04-15-2016, 08:55 AMkensatsu
even worst you wait to use LB on the last minute someone with a lot of stacks and you get away with, how to trade a loose for a win >_>
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04-15-2016, 12:11 PMEvilsyndicatememberI've seen this happen so many times, it's very disheartening. It doesn't require skill just common sense to focus tank and then mele lb it. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by kensatsu
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04-15-2016, 12:41 PMNova_RoxYou overestimate DPS players....Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsyndicatemember
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04-15-2016, 07:53 PMkensatsu
he don't overestimate dps player i encounter so many dps do it.
if everyone was bad ? it's not the case, many melee queueing is good players or at least not bad at all, so i see this LB is last minute happen often. not in all the match but often anyway ^^ -
04-15-2016, 11:11 PMJubez187
Yeah the only thing I didn't like about the patch notes was more LB. Mainly because the other ones aren't on the level of melee DPS for obvious reasons. I'm sure they'll tone it down in 2 weeks.
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04-16-2016, 02:47 AMJazzofEtro
You can LoS LB. but if you think it's going to happen hold your stun ready on the Melee DPS. Melee LB is powerful yes. But many classes can easily stop it. Stunning Ifrit's plumes on HM is probably harder.... Ok ok well the casting time is pretty long on that LB.
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04-16-2016, 02:51 AMAlrog
lol.. i never fail my lb's as drg , with anti cc and one stun on the target it's so easy to destroy someone so please... i am not happy to win cuz i lb more than my ennemies...
SE must really reduce LB regen...
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04-16-2016, 03:03 AMRenaultOr remove it entirely from the feast. I think that would be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alrog
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04-16-2016, 03:08 AMAlrog
I agree to remove LB but i think SE will never do that because Limit break is an integral part of the universe of Final Fantasy but really , atm it's to much and that ruin PvP experience...
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04-16-2016, 03:55 AMDimitriiHold your stun and waste it on the melee as he limit breaks you anyway with fetter ward up? Cause no melee limit breaks without it up unless they are either uninformed of its existance or the match is about to end before it comes back up. Only thing you can try to do is LOS but they made that harder to do by removing the inner walls, or using a knockback/getting out of range very quickly. That is of course assuming you can even act at all prior to lb going off as stunning the limit break target prior to limit breaking is just as standard as using fetter ward before hand. I know the limit breaks exist and were increased in frequency in order to help bad teams occasionally defeat more skilled teams but at the very least SE should have made it so the limit breaks, especially the melee limit break, doesn't benefit from the increased dmg from heavy medal stacks. That is the primary reason the limit break is literally one shotting ppl.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzofEtro
I dont think they really care about that to be honest as FFXI never had any sort of limit breaks. They wont remove the limit breaks as they see it as a method to give teams/players that would otherwise never win in engagements against more skilled players an outside chance at pulling the wool over their opponents eyes and snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alrog
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04-16-2016, 05:53 AMRhode
Your LB gauge should be reduced when you are defeated.
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04-16-2016, 07:48 AMRiceisNiceFetter ward says hi.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzofEtro
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04-16-2016, 04:05 PMJazzofEtro
Lol my bad. But everyone can't be winning just because LB last min of the game. Is it really that bad? I haven't done much playing because of short spare time. But I have some days off soon I'll be playing my heart out. It is nice to see more LBs such as Mage, tank and range come into play more often now. I guess I'm still fascinated by "cool looking moves". #Filthycasual.
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04-16-2016, 06:10 PMRufalus
I'm surprised that it's not talked about more often. They can keep the adrenaline system, but I feel that melee adrenaline should be something different.
Like you say, they can just 1-hit-kill people. And people try to compensate by wearing fending accessories which are intended for tanks, but a good melee will just wait for a time when a person is vulnerable to be killed in 1 hit, or set it up themselves with a little damage and a stun before pressing that auto-kill button. I don't think anything should be allowed to damage a single target so greatly that they die without getting a chance to fight back. I haven't seen a good argument yet to justify the effect and potency of melee adrenaline. -
04-16-2016, 07:00 PMNidelia
I don't think they will remove lb ever because they always added a catch up mechanic:
Secure: Middle node is op (Specially in 8v8v8. Kill the middle node, gg2ez)
Slaughter: Still middle node iirc
SR: Random nodes which can screw a game
The Feast: last min lb and run
However I agree with you Rufalus. I m not sure, but I think that melee lb is way less a problem in lv50. I don't think it os magic class at this lev. (iirc, i was using one vit acc to no be killed by: stun + one other skill + lb if I was at full hp but you were safe from stun + lb) At least I don't have a really bad felling about it. In SR, it's clear the opposite. "Yeah I got my 4 kills* Dragoon dive/stun lb, you re dead. So skill. Much woah. (then maybe the melee will die because it jumped into our line, but remember that it worth it because you worth more point with fever. Then you can be the best play and him is just meat)
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04-16-2016, 08:12 PMRufalus
I got hit by a ninja adrenaline in my last match which hit me for over 11k. I don't know what modifiers were in play, I don't think I had any heavy medal stacks. It's just sudden death from full health.
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04-17-2016, 05:29 AMPotatoGirl
Just gotta say, even winning with a LB in the last ~30 sec or so still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. More so if its been a hard fought match back and forth. It just cheapens the win and feels like the ez "i win" button.
On average I think I see at least 2 melee LBs a match. And usually 1 caster/ranged LB. Healer LBs are rare with how crap the animation lock can be & people/you can still drop off fast after using it.
A match or two ago was hit by a mnk LB for just shy of 10k, I had no medal stacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufalus