Relaxing the requirements to meld Materia?

Would anyone be against increasing the level range for Materia melding so that it's similar to repair requirements (10 levels below the optimal/crafting level or higher, whichever is lower)? This would be for a single materia only - that way forbidden materia crafting can be left as a benefit to those that have leveled their crafting classes further.

The game is being balanced around characters having a single materia set on their gear, and it is an interesting aspect of character customization and development, so it needs to be accessible to as many people as possible. Lowering the requirements might help give those multitudes of dud low level materia a use and help newer players enjoy themselves more by being able to customize their gear more easily.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

The game is being balanced around characters having a single materia set on their gear, and it is an interesting aspect of character customization and development, so it needs to be accessible to as many people as possible.

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Err.. it is equally accessible to everyone.. Anyone can go to the wards, buy some tools and start crafting.

If they lower the level requirements, then they should impose failure rates for underleveled crafts (even on the first materia).

They are going to add an option to Meld Materia in your Bazaar like Request Repair.

I think it would be ok to lower the required level for the first materia and still have the 100% success rate. Then for materia after the first impose a greater penalty if your level is below the item in question.

This makes sense. I was actually surprised when I couldn't attach materia to my own Felt Cavalier's Hat (Brown) that I made. I can make it. Why can't I attach (one) materia to it?

(Hm...should the singular of materia be 'materium'?)

IMO melding should follow the repair rules. If you can repair, you can meld. If that's the case, they could just keep the current restriction for more than one materia...example:

Cobalt Cuirass is Lv49, but let's assume it's a lv57 recipe (just guessing the recipe level), being then, by repair rules, repairable past 39. So anyone 39+ should be able to repair AND to meld 1 materia to it, while those 49+ should be able to meld more than 1 materia to it.

Yeah, definitely agree. Surprised this wasn't the case. The "special" materias should have strict level requirements but for basic materia melding it should definitely be a bit looser, if not 10, then maybe 5-8.

Since they're gonna let you have them melded through your bazaar eventually, I don't really think it's neccessary to lower the required synthesis level

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

If they lower the level requirements, then they should impose failure rates for underleveled crafts (even on the first materia).

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That's a good idea! :D
Maybe a 5% penalty up to 10 levels (like repairs) -- 50% chances if you are 10 levels lower.

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Originally Posted by Nayt

Since they're gonna let you have them melded through your bazaar eventually, I don't really think it's neccessary to lower the required synthesis level

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This is true, I forgot about this, but it would still be nice IMO to give lower rank crafters some light at the end of the tunnel or even people that level their crafting alongside their class, since crafts eventually level ridiculously slow. The craft leveling speed might change, though...

I was just curious at what high level crafters thought since it's essentially horning in on their territory. I have 50 CRP but I wouldn't mind more people being able to attach materia to their own things.

hopefully 1.20 will include a bazaar-able Melding option.

I think it would make the most sense if the level to meld depended on the materia rather than the gear. Does it make sense that it requires a level 48 craft to attack Strength I to a level 48 item, whereas I would only need a level 1 craft to attach Ultimate Mega Awesome Materia IV to my level 1 item? I'm not really sure myself, but it's just a thought.

The only change I'd hope to see is being able to meld anything with one craft.

Level requirements are fine, but if I want to be a THM, LNC and MRD, why should I have to level Bsm, Arm, Gsm, Wvr and Crp just to magically meld materia onto my gear? It doesn't require the tools of the trade to do it, the NPC gave us special "tools" to meld materia.

Leveling crafts is painful, but we're back to it being required to level th to be at all effective.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

The only change I'd hope to see is being able to meld anything with one craft.

Level requirements are fine, but if I want to be a THM, LNC and MRD, why should I have to level Bsm, Arm, Gsm, Wvr and Crp just to magically meld materia onto my gear? It doesn't require the tools of the trade to do it, the NPC gave us special "tools" to meld materia.

Leveling crafts is painful, but we're back to it being required to level th to be at all effective.

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It 's non sense that you make a gear by weaver, but would meld it by blacksmith.

I think no one force you to level up crafting if you don't like after 1.19. NPC repair is cheap now, retainer market would find most top rank gears, and SE will allow carfter meld item via bazaar. I see no point you hv to level your crafting yourself.

To be honest it's nonsense that one would get the item, the materia, the catalyst, and then put them together on a retainer for someone to walk by and press a button. At that point, why add another layer of (passive) interaction? It seems arbitrarily limiting, like the need for training books (which is going away) or daily leve restrictions (which went away). And not arbitrarily limiting in the level requirement sense, which makes balancing easier (and is present on ALL THREE of the component pieces). Just let anyone jam a materia into an an item if they've gone through the hoops of preparation. If materia melding had STARTED this way, would you guys be calling for an addition of restricting melding to the repairing crafter? Maybe so, but I doubt it would be a very popular thread.

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Originally Posted by Bocajo

I think it would make the most sense if the level to meld depended on the materia rather than the gear. Does it make sense that it requires a level 48 craft to attack Strength I to a level 48 item, whereas I would only need a level 1 craft to attach Ultimate Mega Awesome Materia IV to my level 1 item? I'm not really sure myself, but it's just a thought.

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Uh no, you can't attach grade IV Materia to anything lower than lvl 41, so your point is moot.

After getting the hang of things I rather like the materia system, i'm 3 levels from 41 on my wvr, and from there I can materia myself out. The only thing is...I want them to loosen where the materia can go a little bit, not a lot, but it looks to me like blacksmith and goldsmith, maybe even carpenter have a hold on some of the materias that affix to the weapons, and especially when it comes to gatherers and crafters tools. :/ I just want to affix some control on my gear please! only one piece of gear...i'm fine with that, but only tools :[