Ok, so Mentor Roulette contains extreme primals.

Was including those in a roulette not specifically made for them really such a bright idea? Earlier an FC buddy asked us to jump into an in-progress Shiva EX group, so we did thinking it was an attempt for a pony. We queue in and he tells us it's for his Mentor Roulette. Wipe after wipe after wipe, mechanics fully explained more times than I can count with people still dying to the same thing over and over. In the end the timer ran out without us ever getting under 50%. And this was Shiva, probably the easiest of the EX Primals. I mean I know SE wants the veterans to help the newbies, but come on, there's a limit to how much you can stuff into a roulette. It's Duty Finder for pete's sake.

There goes my desire for those Expeditioner's Flyers, I can't imagine doing this 200 times.


inb4; "don't be a mentor if you aren't willing to help"
-I'm not a mentor, I forfeited my mentorship the first week it came out. Stuff like this is why, I don't have the patience for it, and I'm not ashamed to admit that.

Maybe its so people can mentor people as to how to do primal EX's /straightface.

I once helped 6 first- timers through Levi ex in DF. I got so many commends that day :D

Just wondering, if I am a mentor but never did one of the ex primals, can I still get it in the mentor roulette?
This is something that I really want to know. :(

Mentor roulette is literally every party instance in the game; you can get T13 in mentor roulette.

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Originally Posted by Meimi_chan

Just wondering, if I am a mentor but never did one of the ex primals, can I still get it in the mentor roulette?
This is something that I really want to know. :(

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Don't think it'll even let you do the roulette....

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Originally Posted by Meimi_chan

Just wondering, if I am a mentor but never did one of the ex primals, can I still get it in the mentor roulette?
This is something that I really want to know. :(

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Not sure. When I asked what was in it the answer I got was that it contained everything except Coil, Heavensward EX primals, and Gordias Savage.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Maybe its so people can mentor people as to how to do primal EX's
http://i.imgur.com/o6nBICg.gif

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Alisaie, Alphinaud, give us a guide!

http://i.imgur.com/XuqhIbq.gif

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Originally Posted by Meimi_chan

Just wondering, if I am a mentor but never did one of the ex primals, can I still get it in the mentor roulette?
This is something that I really want to know. :(

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Here is a complete list of everything you have to complete in order to unlock the Duty Roulette: Mentor.

http://i.imgur.com/DSA0C7R.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/p8hXd13.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/3TmYyce.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/xX5A0UV.jpg?1

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Here is a complete list of everything you have to complete in order to unlock the Duty Roulette: Mentor.

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...Just rename it Russian Roulette.

Mentor roulette isn't really for any individual if they get mad at having to help newbies. Yes, newbies suck sometimes. I got Shiva ex in mine earlier this week, four out of 8 newbies and even with that being the case only myself and the other tank seemed to know mechanics. We did it on our very last pull.

Was it frustrating? Hell yes. Was it worth it in the end? Yes, to watch them very slowly improve after explaining each mechanic in as much detail as I could. Seeing the scholar explode with "omg thank you guys!" did put a smile on my face.

tbh, I get sastasha or another newb dungeon much more often than I get ex primals. My very first mentor roulette was Titan ex though xD

I've been getting lucky and getting a lot of guildhests in Mentor roulette. Then two nights ago I got Urth's Fount. With 4 new people. Gungnirs getting stacked, a newbie Paladin getting one-shotted by Sanngetall... it was interesting to say the least. One DRG ended up ragequitting (funny thing, they were the worst culprit for standing in floor candy), saying "This is stupid." After that DRG left, someone said "Just go" and the newbie tank in mostly i90 gear pulled before we could tell him not to. We hit Zanketsuken at 30%, yeah not happening. We finally got another DPS, convinced the newbie tank that the other tank should be MT (he was getting one-shotted even using cooldowns...), got the heals straight, and finally cleared it two pulls later.

Mentor roulette - yeah we really should just rename it to Russian Roulette. xD

The EX primals can get a little...daunting - especially with DF-quality DPS, but they're not impossible. I got Shiva EX for my mentor roulette today and we beat it after stacking 20% echo lol.

Honestly, I dislike getting low level dungeons much more than getting an EX primal.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Mentor roulette is literally every party instance in the game; you can get T13 in mentor roulette.



Don't think it'll even let you do the roulette....

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I don't have T13 access, but I have Mentor roulette access. It's like leveling roulette. It puts you in anything you have access to.

Mentor roulette was designed to get you paired up with people who have yet to clear something so that you can help them out or at least teach them on what to do. That includes EX primals.

These usually go the time limit without a clear, but I've had a few successful runs so far. Odin and extreme primals are a little too tough for most first-timer DF groups. I think the bonus tomestones for mentor roulette should be rewarded every time instead of just once a day.

And why should it? Why can't other roulettes get the same thing?

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Duties Applicable to Duty Roulette: Mentor

Dungeons
Sastasha / The Tam-Tara Deepcroft / Copperbell Mines / Halatali / The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak / Haukke Manor / Brayflox's Longstop / The Sunken Temple of Qarn / Cutter's Cry / The Stone Vigil / Dzemael Darkhold / The Aurum Vale / The Wanderer's Palace / Amdapor Keep / Castrum Meridianum / The Praetorium / Pharos Sirius / Copperbell Mines (Hard) / Haukke Manor (Hard) / The Lost City of Amdapor / Halatali (Hard) / Brayflox's Longstop (Hard) / Hullbreaker Isle / The Tam-Tara Deepcroft (Hard) / The Stone Vigil (Hard) / Snowcloak / Sastasha (Hard) / The Sunken Temple of Qarn (Hard) / The Keeper of the Lake / The Wanderer's Palace (Hard) / Amdapor Keep (Hard) / The Dusk Vigil / Sohm Al / The Aery / The Vault / The Great Gubal Library / The Aetherochemical Research Facility / Neverreap / The Fractal Continuum / Saint Mocianne's Arboretum / Pharos Sirius (Hard) / The Antitower / The Lost City of Amdapor (Hard)

Guildhests
Basic Training: Enemy Parties / Under the Armor / Basic Training: Enemy Strongholds / Hero on the Halfshell / Pulling Poison Posies / Stinging Back / All's Well that Ends in the Well / Flicking Sticks and Taking Names / More than a Feeler / Annoy the Void / Shadow and Claw / Long Live the Queen / Ward Up / Solemn Trinity

Trials
The Bowl of Embers / The Navel / The Howling Eye / Cape Westwind / The Chrysalis / The Steps of Faith / A Relic Reborn: The Chimera / A Relic Reborn: The Hydra / Battle on the Big Bridge / The Dragon's Neck / Urth's Fount / Battle in the Big Keep / The Bowl of Embers (Hard) / The Howling Eye (Hard) / The Navel (Hard) / Thornmarch (Hard) / The Whorleater (Hard) / The Striking Tree (Hard) / Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Hard) / The Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima's Bane / The Howling Eye (Extreme) / The Navel (Extreme) / The Bowl of Embers (Extreme) / Thornmarch (Extreme) / The Whorleater (Extreme) / The Striking Tree (Extreme) / Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Extreme) / Thok ast Thok (Hard) / The Limitless Blue (Hard) / The Singularity Reactor / Containment Bay S1T7

Raids
The Labyrinth of the Ancients / Syrcus Tower / The World of Darkness / The Void Ark / Alexander - The Fist of the Father / Alexander - The Cuff of the Father / Alexander - The Arm of the Father / Alexander - The Burden of the Father

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Originally Posted by Lusavari

I don't have T13 access, but I have Mentor roulette access. It's like leveling roulette. It puts you in anything you have access to.

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Coil is not in the list

I'm not trying to have a dig at you, I respect that you say you don't have the patience for being a Mentor; but that's your problem. The whole idea is to help new people, and you're aware it's a Duty Finder before you queue. You did the right thing by withdrawing your Mentor status if you don't have the patience but there's no reason these duties shouldn't be in the roulette, because many people are willing to explain the fight and do have the time and patience to do so.

Meanwhile I'm getting guildhests every time like

https://media2.giphy.com/media/iMkJZ0PIKPZv2/200.gif

It's kind of ironic that EX primals are in there. I mean, a mentor might actually have something to teach someone then. And, whoa boy, it's not unsync'd pony farm ex primals... I wonder how many mentors actually know what the mechanics do when they actually hurt.

Frankly, all those other dungeons can be easily done by new players in duty finder. It would be better to not get anyone trying to help. I'm sure they want people scrutinizing their play on something they probably have done already a few times just fine.

If I was a new player, the EX primals would be the only thing I could probably use a hand with, but gosh, good luck with that.

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Coil is not in the list

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Ah thanks. I didn't have access to the list, but I knew it was most content in the game.