With the new patch info slowly leaking out, what is the point of grinding away for DoL and DoH. Lately I have been struggling to keep logging in the spam craft 12 things (after farming the mats). And gathering for a few hours tied to the timers >.< (really hate the timer system).
Right now it takes weeks to get 1 item for 1 class, soon it seems they will be coming out with 1 set for all like back befor HW. So my question is.. whats the point now? Its already not fun to do and with this reason to really not do it, I find it hard to even log in since I have no "goal" because it will all be replaced soon enough.
Anyone else having this issue? or am I just being silly?
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04-05-2016, 12:36 AMsilverhopeWeekly Grind
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04-05-2016, 12:58 AMxxkirahoshi
They've said in the Live Letter that you will need the current gear to get the next teir of it. But they haven't given us any other information.
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04-05-2016, 01:06 AMsilverhope
>.> so im assuming they mean more scripts... should make them black ones cuz thats what my soul will look like.
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04-05-2016, 01:40 AMWhocareswhatmynameis
Ya I think i'm starting to agree, Gear becomes obsolete way too fast, the longest lifespan of anything is 3 patches? really? lol Anything you own is only relevant for a maximum of 6-9 months before you have to throw it away or put it on your retainer :/
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04-05-2016, 01:42 AMsilentwindfr
my main grips about the gatherer is the gp regeneration totally bad... i means with soo many item at gather that use the gp, why force us to use item for go faster instead to put a regen of gp same as the tp and mp out of fight, or if they absolutly want to make use an item, give us the craft and please not gated behind tons of compo rare.
actually for the gathering i have down time of 6 minutes between each gather... it's 6 minutes where i don't play... and when you think that some new player will need to gather the 99 mark for the legend it become almost impossible if you don't play more of 5 at 6 hours per day.
the grind have become absurd... they must try to stop to force us to do only one thing at the time... that not the core of the game, i will never say it enough, but the core of the game is 1 character can do everything if you pours time into it. but right now pours time into it have become too heavy for normal player. they need to adress this.
ohhh i did forget same the gear craft i220 are easier to craft than i180 someone can explain me? i means the item are litterally buy throught eso, while the other still recquire tons of component, i was checking the component for craft this:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e/1b44ff75459/
and it recquire more component that are more rare than this:
http://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e/d6c03504d69/
the logique behind the craft recently is dumb, make all hard and rare to gather... the point? because later we will have better gear, nice, but later this sort of stuff will have 0 point to be crafted.
they need to change a few stuff:
- reduce the time of no game by increasing the gp regeneration
- increase the time of the timed node
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04-05-2016, 01:50 AMLaylaTsarraI can't vouch for crafting scrips because I haven't done them yet but gathering ones haven't been that big a deal. Maxing 450 per week isn't that hard in my opinion. One thing I'm happy to hear is that the older gear will be needed to get the newer gear. I suspect that might not make crafters happy because there is so much gear to deal with so I can understand the frustration. Gatherers on the other hand haven't been that hard to manage and the stuff I gather is very lucrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
A universal gear for all does make sense however given armories are just ridiculous with no room for anything. -
04-05-2016, 01:59 AMsilverhopeThe issue is the timers imo. Log in check the items put them in a timer.. play other things while waiting for timer to pop. Hit node take potion wait again. Untill 450 scripts. And god forbif you miss a swing at 98% (happens way to much) and this adds another hour of playing/notplaying.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra
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04-05-2016, 02:04 AMCherie
Even if people wanna grind out the current best crafting gear like, how many of them feel fully confident to try to HQ a probably 3 or 4 star (considering you *need* the current best gear to make them) new outfit with likely very hard to get mats?
Last time universal crafting gear came out, it was Ehcatl Sealant from beast tribes. This time likely it will be vath goop or moogle puffs or some other daily reward of which you'll need many. Going to be a major setback (like a week's worth of dailies) if anyone breaks one of these learning a new 4 star rotation. Hopefully there will be some other 4 star crafts to practice on that have cheaper mats.
Of course the super rich will buy out the entire board on any relevant mats for weeks at a time... :x There won't be tons of them so even at millions a pop they will sell. Which begs another question, wouldn't it be better to just sell the mats and wait? What currently would you even need that gear for? I haven't heard of anything fancy coming announced in the live letter that you'd need that gear to make... Crafting hasnt even been exceptionally difficult that you *need* particular gear to make something, besides artifical caps to to be given permission to attempt it. Unless there are like 5 star battle gear coming out at the same time, I'd imagine current 2 star crafting gear is good enough to make anything of the foreseeable future. -
04-05-2016, 02:15 AMSingularityWhile you may have said that as a joke, I do think that's what they should do. With combat gear, they introduce a new tomestone each time they add a new set so you can spend the old one with reckless abandon and not feel bad. If the new set of crafting gear is also to be powered by red scrips, then any gear purchased now feels like a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
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04-05-2016, 02:18 AMDocent
Didn't they say in the live letter Q&A the next tier of crafting/gathering gear will be crafted, not bought with scrips, and that you will need current gear to make it?
It's the only reason I'm still meeting my red scrip quota every week -- in preparation for crafting a higher-level universal set that will instantly obsolete the red scrips gear I haven't finished getting.... -
04-05-2016, 02:18 AMLaylaTsarraI have little trouble with gathering scrips. I have no problem with the timed nodes. There is nothing to gather like crafting items in order to make a collectible but that's me. Certainly didn't cost me anything to gather and get the gear other than time.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
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04-05-2016, 02:23 AMSingularityThey did say that, but consider for a moment how true it is. Will having the current best gear allow you to make the new stuff? If you are a WVR or LTW, then almost certainly yes. GSM, BSM or CRP? Possibly - depends if they add new accessories and/or tools (neither was shown in the picture). ARM, ALC or (especially) CUL? Upgrading gear now most likely means nothing and is a waste of scrips, materia and/or gil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Docent
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04-05-2016, 02:30 AMDocentThere's not much of a difference in stats between a Specialist or not, so a main GSM or BSM or CRP can gear up their WVR or LTW before 3.3 comes around to be ready for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Singularity
Of course, they could pull a "specialist only, lol!" card on us again, and at this point, I'm ready to bet they will.
I'm rather bitter about this all, by the way. The new jewelry is just insane to max meld, and I am super weary of going for cheaper alternatives because of past experiences. Maybe they didn't expect people to go the V>IV>IV>IV>IV route on the accessories, but they're deluded if they think players won't opt for "best in slot" when they can. -
04-05-2016, 02:30 AMAlphaFox
Luckily I work from home but the fact that I needed the full day and more to get 1 book is kinda insane to imagine. I only did two cus I needed the mats for Astral oil. Though hearing that new scrip stuff is on the way it did make me cringe and wonder if I should just wait to buy the new set or if it will be fine to get it now. Though new scrips would explain it if we need current stuff to progress.
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04-05-2016, 02:36 AMLaylaTsarraI've been gathering red scrips for fisher (have almost enough for a full tool/gear set) which I really don't use much and I'm debating if I should just wait and see. I suspect there will be a different formula other than simply red scrips but who knows. I also wonder if they are adding books for gathering nodes and wonder if I should start with blue scrips again given I suspect there will be new stuff to gather as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFox
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04-05-2016, 02:46 AMAlphaFoxKinda what I am thinking and debating, gather a ton now and just stockpile or to spend now.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra
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04-05-2016, 06:08 AMFelisYou would need the current best gear on a DoH and DoL class to get the next best gear (to farm scripts or to craft them yourself).Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
I have no problems with the gathering timers for scripts.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
05:00 am - miner folklore
05:00 pm - botanist folklore
9:00 - botanist in western highlands
11:00 - miner in Azys La
02:00 - miner in Dravianian Hinterland for blue script
You also don't have to do it until 450 scripts in a single day. Spread them to 100 per day