What wrong with he Burden of the Father (Savage)?

Well, I'm new. I did other raids was faster from Duty Finder.

Then I got over 205lvl gears unlocked "The Burden of the Father (Savage)"
I tried join in Duty Finder. Nobody want there, I waited hours...

Players hated it?

Oh God, who wants to do A4S in DF?

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

Oh God, who wants to do A4S in DF?

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Is it VERY hard?

Yea this isn't going to happen soon. I remember when the first "final" boss in coil dropped into duty finder: First coil, turn 5, Twintania. Yea, that was....interesting.

Well ok, yes you could duty finder it back in the day. You had to be on a JP server though. It's not something that actually happens in the west. Not for the current content anyway.

You could make a party finder for A4S though! I'm sure you'll think its a interesting fight. I wouldn't expect to beat it though. Even with echo and new gear. It's still one of the hardest fights in the game (aside from the current savage). It hasn't been long enough to become irrelevant yet like the others. I mean, I'm talking about myself trying to do it in party finder. I don't think I'd beat it in there. Maybe someone other than me would have better luck doing it with random people. I know I'm not that fortunate.

It has quite a bit to it, and the general accepted strategy is to misuse a mechanic entirely.
It's no secret that people wouldn't want to attempt this with folk they don't know very well.

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Originally Posted by OwlBlackX

Is it VERY hard?

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The fact that you ask. Tells anyone who dares try this why to avoid it.

You can't just go into savage blind with a unknown party makeup.

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Originally Posted by OwlBlackX

Is it VERY hard?

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It's not terrible, especially with 15% echo and i220+ equipment, but there are several mechanics that require precise coordination.

There are adds that spawn from the third phase onwards that require some fairly specific management; if even one of them isn't picked up almost immediately, it will likely result in an instant raid wipe.

There are a couple of mechanics in the final phase that not only require specific management, the most common strategy is to take advantage of server ticks and such to effectively allow people to take fatal damage twice within a short window of time. Again, if even one person involved fails to execute it correctly, it will likely result in an instant raid wipe.

Its not a duty finder friendly fight in the least bit. It was tough even for statics that consisted of the same 8 people and same party comp every time. I can't even imagine queing in and not knowing what party comp or level of competence of my teammates that I would be getting. This is why you won't see people waiting in que for it, not to mention its technically irrelevant content now (minus glam and mount).

Try to PF it.. DF could be the worst experience, in the worst scenario you gonna be 30+ min on que and after you get into A4S you'll find out that ppl is coming new and if mechanics fails, all will fail even if they have i220+

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Originally Posted by OwlBlackX

Is it VERY hard?

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In its heyday, A4S was the hardest fight in the game by a country mile. Nowadays it's doable without too much worry, provided you have Echo and at least 220 gear. It's apparently a very boring fight though, so few people are going to do it in DF. No offense, but the fact you're asking this says you aren't quite ready for Savage content. These fights are extremely mechanic heavy and demand a lot from the raid group, even if you're overgeared.

With our group we finished A4S after we were done with Sephirot Ex. But farming is still slow. One day we did it 4 times in 3 hours. The other day just 3 times in 3 hours. Most wipes got caused by not precise timed add feeding.

Personally I would not queue up for this fight in DF. There is way to much to learn and to coordinate and the duty timer is so short to qeue up randomly and to get the group into a working state.

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Originally Posted by OwlBlackX

Is it VERY hard?

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To put it simply, this is how SE ranks fights.

Normal > (Hard) > (Extreme) > (Savage)

Savage fights are intended to be harder than extreme primals.

I don't know why you would want to do anything in duty finder except dungeons and story mode trials. You're just asking for a headache....