Add Moogle Attire Costume to Mog Station

Title says all.

Please make it possible to buy this costume from the Mog Station.

(and the Yugiri doll, too : 3 )

They often add event items after the new version has been released. I would not be suprised, if we see the Moogle Attire, after the second Fan Fest has finished.

The Moogle Attire was a bonus item for people who attended the convention or paid for the live stream coverage. This was a special bonus item tied to a purchase. It won't happen unless they add... say all of the bonus items that come with the plushies and soundtracks too.

Only way it would be fair to add this is if all bonus items from paid events and physical produces were added. Otherwise I'd have to say no, don't do it. As much as I would like the cait sith and dalamud minions, I'm okay with there being exclusives.

I payed close to $20 AUD for my outfit + HD stream of the Fan Fest + ability to watch the bonus sections of the fan fests. So I think it should be added when Fan Fest II is released but at a high price like $15 AUD. And yeah, I would love to see stuff like Wind Up Bahamut and Dalamud in cash shop as well for like $15 AUD.

The Wind-Up Yugiri minion will probably be added to the Mog Station at the next Rising seasonal event.

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Originally Posted by Kerii

The Moogle Attire was a bonus item for people who attended the convention or paid for the live stream coverage. This was a special bonus item tied to a purchase. It won't happen unless they add... say all of the bonus items that come with the plushies and soundtracks too.

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Who made that rule up? You can still buy the plushies and soundtracks (if SE ever has them in stock).
I agree with Laerune, IF they add a new exclusive item for the next Fan Fest, they could easily add the suit to the Mog Station.

On one hand I want all these things because they are cute, but on the other hand, it is not fair to those who got it when it was ongoing. I mean, what would be the point of special rewards/items if everyone will get them at some point in the future? The whole special and rare thing goes out of the window.

Can nothing ever stay exclusive? You missed out too bad so sad. Wait for another event and make sure to get the items.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Can nothing ever stay exclusive?

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Nope. Never. :-D

Maybe if the attire cost so much like the fanfest ticket?

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Originally Posted by Felis

Maybe if the attire cost so much like the fanfest ticket?

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The Premium Live Stream cost $20. Seems like a fair price to me... >w>

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

The Wind-Up Yugiri minion will probably be added to the Mog Station at the next Rising seasonal event.



Who made that rule up? You can still buy the plushies and soundtracks (if SE ever has them in stock).
I agree with Laerune, IF they add a new exclusive item for the next Fan Fest, they could easily add the suit to the Mog Station.

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As soon as "this" is added, guess what the next thing will be? "SE ADD THE OLD BONUS ITEMS FROM STUFF YOU AREN'T SELLING ANYMORE BECAUSE i WANTS IT." There was a fair argument when the Lightning Strikes items were asked for. There is a fair argument about the region locked items (provided those aren't paid to obtain also), there might even be an argument for the 7-11 items on the grounds that it's JP only and account locked. However, there isn't any sort of argument for items, like this, that you already had to pay to obtain in the first place.

(Apparently the Chinese items are cash shop items to begin with, so that's fine for both sides of it.)

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Originally Posted by Kerii

As soon as "this" is added, guess what the next thing will be? "SE ADD THE OLD BONUS ITEMS FROM STUFF YOU AREN'T SELLING ANYMORE BECAUSE i WANTS IT." There was a fair argument when the Lightning Strikes items were asked for. There is a fair argument about the region locked items (provided those aren't paid to obtain also), there might even be an argument for the 7-11 items on the grounds that it's JP only and account locked. However, there isn't any sort of argument for items, like this, that you already had to pay to obtain in the first place.

(Apparently the Chinese items are cash shop items to begin with, so that's fine for both sides of it.)

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And what's wrong with that? >w>

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

The Premium Live Stream cost $20. Seems like a fair price to me... >w>

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Yep I'd drop money on this in an instant.
And i've never been a fan of exclusivity. Glad stuff like the lightning gear I subbed specifically for is available now for people who missed it.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Maybe if the attire cost so much like the fanfest ticket?

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Anyone could have gotten this costume through subbing to the stream. On top of that, you were capable of subbing for months after the event and would still get a code.
I see nothing wrong with adding it to the store for the same price as the sub.

Is the channel still open to sub to? Has anyone tried doing a paid sub and seeing if they get the costume still?

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

Is the channel still open to sub to? Has anyone tried doing a paid sub and seeing if they get the costume still?

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I think it's been closed for a year now. Since March of last year unless I'm remembering wrong, at least for the NA stream.

Just make the next stream offer a choice of either a new costume, or the same old moogle one. People with none could buy both, people with the moogle costume can pick up the new one.

I think cash shop ideas are a waste. Keep exclusives "exclusive" but keep the items available the next time an event comes around, either in game or otherwise. Think of how the special items for holiday contests work. Winners can choose the item they want during some events, and none of the items have been completely phased out as rewards. Soundtracks should let you pick which soundtrack minion you want, with a new minion added to the pool each time. Same with artbooks. And it should have remained that way for in-game seasonal event items.

Stop giving SE an excuse to take more money from customers through mogstation. They just waste it on FFXV cutscenes.

Nope, nope and nope.

It shouldn't be added. It's an exclusive item. It should stay that way for the people who qualified for it at the time.

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Originally Posted by Lollerblades

Nope, nope and nope.

It shouldn't be added. It's an exclusive item. It should stay that way for the people who qualified for it at the time.

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Why? There is no good reason for that. :B

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Originally Posted by Sakuraluna

I think it's been closed for a year now. Since March of last year unless I'm remembering wrong, at least for the NA stream.

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Aaah. Makes sense. I was going to say that Reddit users were reporting that you could still get it; but they were from last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...e_ingame_code/

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Can nothing ever stay exclusive? You missed out too bad so sad. Wait for another event and make sure to get the items.

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Why? So you can be a special snowflake? How does other people having an essential joke gearset effect you or your experience with the game? Many players are new, or just didn't happen to be around for the event. Exclusivity has no benefit except so some people can feel special.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Exclusivity has no benefit except so some people can feel special.

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So isn't having something exclusive/special a benefit to the people that actually have it? They have something rare for being there at that time and doing whatever was needed to get it.

To bring back exclusive/limited things just lessens their value.

And yes I wish I could get rare things too like a legacy chocobo (I was even a player in 1.0 I just didn't qualify for legacy state), but I can't. That happened, it's gone now, I don't have it, other players do, have to move on.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

So isn't having something exclusive/special a benefit to the people that actually have it? They have something rare for being there at that time and doing whatever was needed to get it.

To bring back exclusive/limited things just lessens their value.

And yes I wish I could get rare things too like a legacy chocobo (I was even a player in 1.0 I just didn't qualify for legacy state), but I can't. That happened, it's gone now, I don't have it, other players do, have to move on.

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This is what achievements are for. Gearsets and tangible items don't have any need to be exclusive, at least not permanently so. The only benefit is to say you have something someone else doesn't. Nice.

Legacy Chocobo is unique, only because it was essentially an apology to people who paid full price for a game that had no business being released to market in the state it was in. In a sense, those players paid $60 for the mounts and tattoo on their back.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

This is what achievements are for. Gearsets and tangible items don't have any need to be exclusive, at least not permanently so. The only benefit is to say you have something someone else doesn't. Nice.

Legacy Chocobo is unique, only because it was essentially an apology to people who paid full price for a game that had no business being released to market in the state it was in. In a sense, those players paid $60 for the mounts and tattoo on their back.

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But exclusivity is bad, mkay? Everything should be available to everyone! We can't have special snowflakes! I want the tattoo on my back, and a legacy chocobo, and the other goobue! It's only fair~ I wasn't there to get them when they were available, I should be able to just shell out 20 bucks for each thing now! I want it, I want it, I want it! (not really, I don', but that's effectively what people asking for the moogle attire are doing in this thread)

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

But exclusivity is bad, mkay? Everything should be available to everyone! We can't have special snowflakes! I want the tattoo on my back, and a legacy chocobo, and the other goobue! It's only fair~ I wasn't there to get them when they were available, I should be able to just shell out 20 bucks for each thing now! I want it, I want it, I want it! (not really, I don', but that's effectively what people asking for the moogle attire are doing in this thread)

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Way to ignore context. I can just as easily say people who want exclusive items only want them to feel special.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Way to ignore context. I can just as easily say people who want exclusive items only want them to feel special.

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And we'd both be right, how bout that. You can't cherry pick though, either all exclusives need to be made available, or none. Which is it?

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Legacy Chocobo is unique, only because it was essentially an apology to people who paid full price for a game that had no business being released to market in the state it was in. In a sense, those players paid $60 for the mounts and tattoo on their back.

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No it wasn't. It only given to players that subscribed for 90 days during a certain period. Regular 1.0 players (like me) only got the tattoo, but we did pay for the game. Or do you want people to have that legacy tattoo now too?

What about the Goobbue Mount? That's pretty darn exclusive and although they bought out alternatives, to this day it remains impossible to get that one.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Why? So you can be a special snowflake? ...

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I think, for me anyways, that it's more a matter of all players being on equal footing than any one player being a special snowflake over another. One group of players being given exclusive items while other groups either are never given exclusivity or have exclusivity taken away from them on a regular basis would imply favoritism. I would be fine with either all exclusives (including physical merchandise, region locked, and 1.0 exclusives, being released or with no exclusives ever being re-released, but I'm not big on the idea of any one item being devalued for any one group regardless if I have the item myself. (And there are many I don't have.)

No.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

And we'd both be right, how bout that. You can't cherry pick though, either all exclusives need to be made available, or none. Which is it?

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Once again, you are disregarding context. People received exclusive stuff in 1.0 only because the game was dreadful and they essentially wasted money. There are always some understandable exceptions. Stuff like say, Lightning's gear, is not one of them. That isn't cherry picking because the circumstances differ.

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Originally Posted by Sakuraluna

I think, for me anyways, that it's more a matter of all players being on equal footing than any one player being a special snowflake over another. One group of players being given exclusive items while other groups either are never given exclusivity or have exclusivity taken away from them on a regular basis would imply favoritism. I would be fine with either all exclusives (including physical merchandise, region locked, and 1.0 exclusives, being released or with no exclusives ever being re-released, but I'm not big on the idea of any one item being devalued for any one group regardless if I have the item myself. (And there are many I don't have.)

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This wouldn't be favouritism though, as that implies bias. SE releasing content that hasn't been available for years is merely extending it to players who either weren't subbed or haven't even played. I don't agree with exclusivity because I don't see any need of it, especially when the items are generally just novelty gear. There are exceptions, of course, like I outlined above.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Once again, you are disregarding context. People received exclusive stuff in 1.0 only because the game was dreadful and they essentially wasted money. There are always some understandable exceptions. Stuff like say, Lightning's gear, is not one of them. That isn't cherry picking because the circumstances differ.

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I am disregarding nothing. You are trying to double-dip with it. You say it's ok for there to be exclusives, but it's not ok for there to be exclusives. Which do you want? This thread isn't about Lightning's Gear, and I've not brought it up once. This is about the Moogle Attire, which was rewarded to those of us that attended live, OR bought the live stream ticket for it, of which you had close to 8 months to purchase a ticket and get a code at any point. The state of 1.0 does not matter now, in 3.0, I'm sorry, but it's true. The game is vastly different now, and the 1.0 players get plenty of "apology perks" with a 3 dollar cheaper/month sub fee. How is it ok to take away a 2.0 exclusive, while still defending 1.0 exclusive character items?

cher·ry-pick
verb
gerund or present participle: cherry-picking
1.
selectively choose (the most beneficial items) from what is available.
"the company should buy the whole airline and not just cherry-pick its best assets"

That is EXACTLY what you are doing.


Edit: Don't take this as me being against the gear being in the Mog Shop, I just feel that if OUR 2.0 exclusivity is taken away, that ALL exclusivity should be taken away as well. Legacy players can keep their cheaper sub fee, that's fair. but under your very own statement, novelty items (which, yes, includes mounts and symbols on the character) are novelty. Again, you don't get both. It has to be fair and be one or the other.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

I am disregarding nothing. You are trying to double-dip with it. You say it's ok for there to be exclusives, but it's not ok for there to be exclusives. Which do you want? This thread isn't about Lightning's Gear, and I've not brought it up once. This is about the Moogle Attire, which was rewarded to those of us that attended live, OR bought the live stream ticket for it, of which you had close to 8 months to purchase a ticket and get a code at any point. The state of 1.0 does not matter now, in 3.0, I'm sorry, but it's true. The game is vastly different now, and the 1.0 players get plenty of "apology perks" with a 3 dollar cheaper/month sub fee. How is it ok to take away a 2.0 exclusive, while still defending 1.0 exclusive character items?

cher·ry-pick
verb
gerund or present participle: cherry-picking
1.
selectively choose (the most beneficial items) from what is available.
"the company should buy the whole airline and not just cherry-pick its best assets"

That is EXACTLY what you are doing.


Edit: Don't take this as me being against the gear being in the Mog Shop, I just feel that if OUR 2.0 exclusivity is taken away, that ALL exclusivity should be taken away as well. Legacy players can keep their cheaper sub fee, that's fair. but under your very own statement, novelty items (which, yes, includes mounts and symbols on the character) are novelty. Again, you don't get both. It has to be fair and be one or the other.

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You are creating a false dichotomy, where either everything must be available or some items never will be. That does inherently disregard context because it does not take into account unique circumstances. I'll concede, legacy players do have other perks, but at the same time I'm indifferent to their exclusives for the reasons stated. I'm not going to necessarily defend it, but I won't oppose it either. I suppose to some extent, the moogle attire could fall into a similar category. I mentioned Lightning's gear only as an example of something i don't feel needed to be exclusive content, yet this very same debate arose in every thread where people asked for it.

Once again, context is important. Everything is not simply black and white. To use the example you provided itself, if said company were to lose money buying the whole airline compared to its profitable assets. They would be foolish in doing so. A better example would be lifting a partial quote from someone in order to mischaracterize their argument.

And I don't. We just differ in our respective definitions. I feel there can be a grey area between the black (everything must be available) and white (some items should never be available).

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

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I'm creating nothing, I'm just exposing the fallacy in what you're asking for, no, there is no "special circumstance" to digital, ingame items. If it's acceptable for one portion of the player base to be "special snowflakes" with their "special items", then it's acceptable for another portion to be, as well. Most of the time, I agree, there is a grey area to things, but no, this is a black and white argument. Right vs Wrong. Either it's ok to have exclusivity, or it is not. No special circumstances, no "buts" to dodge around it. Yes, or No.

I really hope it does get added to the mog store... and hopefully soon. Its the only option to play as a moogle, since they will never be a playable race.

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

I really hope it does get added to the mog store... and hopefully soon. Its the only option to play as a moogle, since they will never be a playable race.

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It was an incentive for buying the live feeds/attending the Fan Fests.

When will players stop asking for things in Cash Shop...? This was a limited item as a "reward" for the fanfest. Why do you think you deserve it? If you can't buy OR go to something limited in time, then deal with it.
Those items are rare and "valuable" BECAUSE they're limited in time and/or as reward/souvenir from fanfests or livestreams or else.

You want it? Then get it the right way, or don't.

How do people find these old threads?

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Originally Posted by Namida-Hikari

When will players stop asking for things in Cash Shop...? This was a limited item as a "reward" for the fanfest. Why do you think you deserve it? If you can't buy OR go to something limited in time, then deal with it.
Those items are rare and "valuable" BECAUSE they're limited in time and/or as reward/souvenir from fanfests or livestreams or else.

You want it? Then get it the right way, or don't.

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Sadly things arent allowed to be rare/exclusive/limited time anymore. People whine too much and demand they have the right to the items, even if they werent playing at the time or didnt care to get the items even if they were playing.

The way they did this in FFXI was to add another moogle costume with a different colored pom.

http://i.imgur.com/5vrc4ai.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/dK0fLLDm.png


Also, it seems the same thing is being done with the moogle cap in FFXIV. There's apparently a "yellow-pommed" version on XIVDB.

http://i.imgur.com/oFPySfv.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/QHPOULj.png


So, it seems likely that if they did this they would just add a different suit with a different color pom. So the original item keeps it's rarity or whatever, but new people who want to dress like a moogle still get the chance.