Any interest in a BCNM System making an updated return?

Not at all saying make this like FFXI, but just thinking about this today... From my memory, as you played the game you got these little tokens that you could trade in to queue up different boss fights. These would be special boss fights that drop different items etc, and the different fights would cost different amounts of these tokens.

What I liked about this concept was that you got these tokens by fighting monsters, and it was a random drop, which you could get very early on, so that as you played, these would just build up.

Anyway, I'm sure they would want to make updated changes to this type of system if they were going to do something like this in FFXIV, like making tokens drop from all types of content in the game, etc...

Just a random idea, for a random day, anyone got anything to add, or do we not want anything like this?

Thanks,

I guess people would be less likely to leave a boss after a single wipe since it cost them tokens, so maybe it'd be an improvement!

I still have my Inferno Tapers and Unmarked Keystones.
It wasn't a bad system, but seems a bit silly to implement now that we have a system build around instant access to a dungeon or trial.

Adding any new system at this point would be a blessing.. Aside from getting beastcoins as you fight, bcnm's are pretty much like primal fight ( in WAY less quantity and difficulty and way lamer un-rare loot) and assuming they did add tokens of some sort to do big fights, they would have to make them really easy to get to make up for the long queue times, or getting people together in general.. People in FFXI were a little more patient

the cool thing about bcnms is that there were created with lvl sync on mind , and there are tons to choose from , and u could duo / trio , or just help for drops , that utsusemi: NI avoided me for some time D:

I loved doing bcnm and it would be a welcome return on my end.

This is basically the same thing as the primal ex fights they release now only you don't have the tedious task of farming a bunch of seals to do the fight.

BCNMs would be nice, as well as ZNMs. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing back Faction leves from 1.0 either. There's something oddly satisfying about farming up a large number of 'content access tokens.'

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Originally Posted by Zumi

This is basically the same thing as the primal ex fights they release now only you don't have the tedious task of farming a bunch of seals to do the fight.

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I was going to say....we already have this: It's the Primal EX fights, truthfully. They drop items, they drop an item that is vanity based (The bird or horse depending on what you're doing)..

I'm not seeing the point of adding this at all.

I would be 100% behind this.

It does feel very similar to the treasure maps and Trial Battle features, though.

I support this! I miss my old KSNM LS. Sleepga -> Nukega -> Sleepga -> Nukega -> Sleepga -> Nukega -> Profit!

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I still have my Inferno Tapers and Unmarked Keystones.
It wasn't a bad system, but seems a bit silly to implement now that we have a system build around instant access to a dungeon or trial.

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I had those for so long, and just recently let them go...

This wouldn't be a replacement for those systems, but just a new one... Could be problematic, in terms of who could go do the fight, and I think it should just be limited to the person who kicks off the duty, rather then worry about the whole party. Much like they did in 1.0, but with those tokens, that just made you eligible for the drops, didn't keep you from the content. I think here, anyone would be able to get the drop, you'd just need to "unlock it" and that would be done via the party leader.

I used to love running BCNM fights. And they were not like ex primals which are very straightforward fights. BCNM usually had to be approached tactically not just learn a rotation and burn as you do it. Some were burns yes, royal jellies for instance, but most required tactics.

If they didn't outdate them every few months it wouldn't be such a big undertaking either.

A moblin maze monger type system would be great too, those were a hoot. To bad the NA groups usually only did them for exp, if you built mazes and completed objectives they could be really great.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I used to love running BCNM fights. And they were not like ex primals which are very straightforward fights. BCNM usually had to be approached tactically not just learn a rotation and burn as you do it. Some were burns yes, royal jellies for instance, but most required tactics.

If they didn't outdate them every few months it wouldn't be such a big undertaking either.

A moblin maze monger type system would be great too, those were a hoot. To bad the NA groups usually only did them for exp, if you built mazes and completed objectives they could be really great.

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They were much simpler fights then ex primals. Most of the fights a group of enemies that had to be kept slept by a bard or blm while you picked them off one by one. I wouldn't call sleeping a group of mandies with lullaby on bard while you kill them one at a time a good fight.

I really do not want this.

I'd actually support this.

Supply a turn in system for tokens that you aren't going to use, or make them drop from specified roulettes. Then make a fight cost 10 tokens and make them drop something decent or glamour-y. Maybe a "BCNM" token that allows you to turn in for a dungeon armor drop of your choice or something. Something useful for gearing new jobs, but not game breaking. Make it casual and fun content.

plus SE doesnt need to add anything , just add some attack patterns to mobs and put some interesting mechanics

examples , the slime queen in FFXI bcnm , usually perfect for rngs but any1 with some burst dps was welcomed, that bcnm was tons of fun , lots of slimes coming from the outside to gather at the center of the bcnm , a mage binding and graviting (heavy in FFXIV) , so dps could kill the slimes before they got to the center , at the end it poped a boss based around the number of slimes....

the 3 boxes bcnm , u need to choose wich one to attack , only 1 is a treasure the others are mimics

the sea monk that u need to kill the tentacles....

lots of fun and engaging bcnms, the issue here is only a few jobs have CC (sleep) , only a few can silence ,and only a few can slow / stun ....but if some bcnms are lvl 30ish or 40ish...im sure ppl wont mind leveling a job for it.... lots of ppl leveled BST for doing bcnms , same for BLM ...or rdm...

I support this idea. To base it off a system that's currently in place, they could make the bcnm's more advanced versions of guildhests, with rare crafting mats, minions, songs, etc. being drops. As mentioned before, any new battle content would be welcome at this point.

Alternatively, I'd also very much like a tiered system of nm's from maps or leves, similar to the 1.x guildleves, wherein you could unlock the next tier of nm or leve through either a rare drop or number of tokens acquired.

BCNM20 Wings of Fury time!!!!