Where do YOU use Spirits Within, Tempered Will?

So in another thread, I commented on how it seems like there are surprisingly few instances where Spirits Within seems to actually work as an interrupt, at least in my experience. Tempered Will also seems to not work half of the time, either. So I thought I'd ask other folks to see if there's anything I'm missing:

What enemy spells are you able to interrupt with Spirits Within?

What knockbacks and movement-impairing effects are you able to negate with Tempered Will?

Spirits Within

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

You can use Spirits Within on Mind Blast for A6S.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Succubus' first aoe attack
Elite Marks that use casts such as Mirka or Maahes

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

It's a bit outdated now, but Spirits works on the AoE paralyze attack from the blue golem in T9.

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Tempered Will

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Seph Ex knockback in Phase 3, Use Tempered Will before that and I can stand where my adds are going to spawn instead of having to run towards them from the edge.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

A6 knockback from the last boss.
A8 Same as above when you fight him again.
A8 knockback from Brute Justice when they all combine.

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

You can also use Tempered Will to cheese Heavensfall in T9 and slams in Leviathan.

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Any magic cast, if im on GCD and wont be able to shield bash in time or they have built up stun resistance.

Any knock back affect that I know of that will affect my positioning. e.g Seph Ex knockback in Phase 3, Use Tempered Will before that and I can stand where my adds are going to spawn instead of having to run towards them from the edge.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Any magic cast, if im on GCD and wont be able to shield bash in time or they have built up stun resistance.

Any knock back affect that I know of that will affect my positioning. e.g Seph Ex knockback in Phase 3, Use Tempered Will before that and I can stand where my adds are going to spawn instead of having to run towards them from the edge.

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I'm more looking for specific instances where they've worked (like your Seph Ex example). In my experience, Tempered Will only works for about 50% of the movement-impairing or knockback effects, and Spirits Within has an even lower success rate at successfully interrupting the cast.

You can use Spirits Within on Mind Blast for A6S.

Spirits Within:
Succubus' first aoe attack
Elite Marks that use casts such as Mirka or Maahes

Tempered Will:
A6 knockback from the last boss.
A8 Same as above when you fight him again.
A8 knockback from Brute Justice when they all combine.

It's a bit outdated now, but Spirits works on the AoE paralyze attack from the blue golem in T9. You can also use Tempered Will to cheese Heavensfall in T9 and slams in Leviathan.

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

It's a bit outdated now, but Spirits works on the AoE paralyze attack from the blue golem in T9. You can also use Tempered Will to cheese Heavensfall in T9 and slams in Leviathan.

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I believe you can do it to all 3 golems' casts. I haven't tried with actual silencing abilities, but I know you can with holmgang, fluid aura and the mch one...blank shot?

Spirits Within and Tempered Will find more use in PvP. Preventing knock back and being able to remove heavy and bind is a pretty big deal. All the dps jobs have "undesired" abilities, they go onto the far end of the hotbar or whatnot, or get removed entirely. They have PvP element to them.

Tempered Will tidal move in neverreap, gusts in bismark, titan landslides, shiva ice drop, a7 robot cage, removing mount applied heavy....
Spirits within unsure other then listed previously, will note it is a very potent ocd generally use it on boss pulls allowing to open with goring instead of ra or sb and get 2 in before fof wears off. (I dont see too many other plds do this maybe im missing something).

I usually use spirits within as part of my opener...if a boss actually has an attack that needs to be silenced it usually goes off once or twice before i wrap my head around the fact that the silence is useful here lol.

I do know Sprits Within stops some moves on all Chimera's (Relic & Fractal's, not sure on Cutters Cry's end boss cause I don't think it lets u have it there) & works on stoping 1 move on the ADS in T1's 1st boss. As for Tempered will I belive the heavy removal works on any heavys with an actual counter (have seen it not work on ones that had no counter but this de-buff was removed when u got outa the constant AoE that gave it) and anything that would knock u back (thou its long cooldown stops it from being really helpful in a pinch often 1 fight)

Back when Titan still had horrible server lag and dodging landslide could be done as reliably as a coin toss I'd cover + tempered will the healer that way even if they got hit you would take it for them and tempered will would prevent the knockback.

Spirits for opener.. save for magic attack if can't stun or build stun rez. Will i just use it to get rid of knockback

Tempered Will in Dzemael Darkhold, Aurum Vale, Titan EX, T5, T9, I think T13, A3, M2, M4, Seph NM, Seph EX. Off the top of my head. Also while having to run around the open world when you get heavied by a random trash mob, I hop off my chocobo, tempered will and Sprint.

I rarely use the silence on Spirits Within since ADS and Chimera, most things that can be silenced can be stunned and I love my shield bash (when TP isn't a concern).

Tempered will works with Shiva Ex knock back move in bow form!
Titan Ex and mini adds, stand there and laugh at their sad attempt to knock you off!
Bismark if you forget it's wind weather. >< (oops..)

To those saying Titan ex, I just want to clarify that they are talking about landslide, tempered will does NOT effect his sumo stomp.

Tempered Will - when it can also shoot lazers

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Originally Posted by Lollie

Tempered Will tidal move in neverreap, gusts in bismark, titan landslides, shiva ice drop, a7 robot cage, removing mount applied heavy....
Spirits within unsure other then listed previously, will note it is a very potent ocd generally use it on boss pulls allowing to open with goring instead of ra or sb and get 2 in before fof wears off. (I dont see too many other plds do this maybe im missing something).

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The most important (and annoying) thing to remember about Spirits Within is that it scales with your health. The more health you have left, the higher its potency, to a maximum of 300 at 100% health. I'm not sure of the exact relationship, since I've never bothered to look into it.

Also important to note is you can only get 2 Spirits Within in one cast of Fight or Flight if you have Spear on you. FoF is 30s - SW has a 35s recast. You're probably referring to Circle of Scorn, here, which has a 25s recast and can be used twice in FoF's span, if you use the first early enough.

But, yeah. People have pretty much pointed to all the times it's useful. Situational, but they've also seemed to finally been putting more knockback and such into the game to make Tempered Will, Plunge, and Holmgang's stationary component have significant uses (not including the dps value of Plunge).

A5S -
single-target buster has knockback that you can nullify with TW.
A6S -
Blaster: mines have a knockback that is likely nullified by TW? Never tried it, but it worked in A8.
Vortexer: Super Cyclone is a knockback that can be nullified by TW.
A8S -
Recombination knockback
Vortexer reappears

There's a LOT of mobs in dungeons these days that use major AoE skills which can be stunned OR silenced.
The Light Sprites in the new Amdapor use a long-cast AoE that you can Silence.
The Mana Pots also use a blinding skill that can be silenced (and is used three times simultaneously - enough damage to kill people with less than 13k-ish health.
You can also stun the Holy skill from the zombie CNJs in the part between boss 1 and 2 in Amdapor.

In Antitower, you can silence the big AoE used by the Mammet Wizards near the end
Silence doesn't have much other use in that dungeon, though, unfortunately, since most mobs are physical.

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Originally Posted by JackFross

A6S -
Blaster: mines have a knockback that is likely nullified by TW? Never tried it, but it worked in A8.

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My co-tank tried it last night and said it worked.

I used Tempered Will on the first Wash Away in A3S to make positioning for that first Digititis easier.

Spirits Within was great for silencing Banish 3 on the Corrupted Sprites in Pharos Sirius.

Tempered Will is good for Ravana's ability Pillars of Heaven.

Spirit's Within is a horrible, horrible skill. The animation is too long and with the way effects only trigger after animation has completed rather than when the animation shows a hit, it's not truly "instant". Plus the Silence lasts like a second. The damage is never 100% if you are tanking because you're always below 100% HP.

To be honest, I don't even bother trying to use it as an interrupt. I try to use it to help create some kind of burst. I have it hotbared to cast whenever it is off cooldown to the same button as Fast Blade. So I'll often open with Shield Lob, two flashes, Spirits Within and then go into one of the combos.

Tempered Will is rarely ever used. Knockback, Blind and Heavy aren't exactly common and when it does appear, it rarely plays into any kind of mechanic where it will doom the party if the tank is knockbacked. The cooldown is also pretty long. I generally don't even bother unless it's something like Demon Wall where it makes life a little easier.

Tempered Will:

1. Singularity Reactor during the knockback phase.
2. M4 when they combine in to Brute Justice.
3. A3 during the large hand phase when it does the knockback.
4. Ravana if I mess up and can't get to a wall.

Spirits Within I use on CD for the extra bit of damage.

You can Spirits Within the big pudding adds when they cast Mucilage in A3S.
Same with High Voltage in Coil Turn 1 & Turn 2.

99% of the time it's a dps move.

I use tempered will in Titan Ex when he does his stomp knockback. I just stay in front of him and continue wacking away. Not needed, but doesn't hurt. Also can be used in neverreap last boss.

Also, when i'm just running around and for some reason i have aggro on a random trash chasing me that puts heavy on me, I use tempered will so i can just continue on my way. Though... nothing more frusturating than using it to rid yourself of heavy, to then be heavied again with the next attack that hits you.... ._.

spirits within, the only one I can think of off the top of my head is mirka hunt. We forgot it was silence and tried to stun him.... very bad time was had until we learned the error of our ways.