It's my Sub...not yours?

MRW someone tells me this from now on:

"Oh...so do you mind if I tank this entire dungeon in Sword Oath while you tank? Meanwhile, I will use Cover whenever possible and Clemency the party? Because that sounds like A LOT OF FUN to me."

I will have so much fun with this if I ever get the chance! ;)

Even if people play average at their job I still wouldn't care. However, declining advice is like a slap in the face. (even IRL) I don't get this reply much when I attempt to give advice on how to better themselves as a player to learn new things, but this reply most of the time pertains to DPS.

Huh? I'm sorry, not following your flow. Are you saying people have been critical of how you tank and you find that annoying?

Think he refers to some people playing so bad it almost feels deliberate attempt from their part to waste his time/sub time.

No I think the OP means when people say "It's my sub! I play how I want!" then the OP will reply with "Oh...so do you mind if I tank this entire dungeon in Sword Oath while you tank? Meanwhile, I will use Cover whenever possible and Clemency the party? Because that sounds like A LOT OF FUN to me."

Often when you try to give helpful advice people get defensive. I mean you are basically saying "you can do it better like this!" and I guess some people don't like that. Often "I don't care! I pay i play how I want!" is a standard answer to feedback/criticism.

No I think the OP is saying that he will have a lot of fun if PLD stay in Sword Oath.

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Originally Posted by Deifact

Often when you try to give helpful advice people get defensive. I mean you are basically saying "you can do it better like this!" and I guess some people don't like that. Often "I don't care! I pay i play how I want!" is a standard answer to feedback/criticism.

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I don't tank an entire dungeon in sword oath, but I would if I were to receive this response in a given situation. I just want to make sure the other player is having a fun >.>

I often get commends for tanking in practically every dungeon, but when another person tries to give advice for how someone can improve, and someone gives this response, I feel like I shouldn't have to play by the book anymore. It would be more fun to teach someone what spending time with a crazy tank is like lol...

I mean granted I would probably get kicked, but I would love doing trying this. What tank wouldn't love to be creative in a dungeon with his abilities.

No I think the OP is talking about a sub sandwich and he doesn't want anyone eating it.

I think the OP is talking about SM

On topic though, ...to admit that if you are given constructive criticism, your response would be to deliberately perform your job in a manner that makes it more difficult for everyone else in the party to do theirs (you're taking more damage, so healer's job is harder, you're dealing less threat, so dps can't do as much damage before they pull aggro) is pretty troll, so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you got kicked for responding like that

My favorite part about this thread is that half of the posts are speculating exactly what the OP is trying to say. It's like sitting in a philosophy class.

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Originally Posted by Jamillion

My favorite part about this thread is that half of the posts are speculating exactly what the OP is trying to say. It's like sitting in a philosophy class.

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What is life anyway other than just a projection of ourselves

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Originally Posted by Shuvool

I think the OP is talking about SM

On topic though, ...to admit that if you are given constructive criticism, your response would be to deliberately perform your job in a manner that makes it more difficult for everyone else in the party to do theirs (you're taking more damage, so healer's job is harder, you're dealing less threat, so dps can't do as much damage before they pull aggro) is pretty troll, so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you got kicked for responding like that

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That isnt what the OP was saying at all. He was saying if SOMEONE ELSE responded like that to him he would then say "oh then do you mind if I (do something that he shouldnt as his job) because I mean, it is my sub"

Well op, this is MY sub and you can't have any of it. I enjoy it the way i want

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles...images/sub.jpg

By shoving it in my mouth

Yo OP, 'MRW' is a very narrowly used acronym, I'd try not to just throw it out there at random places on the internet, and keep to just using it where you first saw it or see it being used by others.

On an unrelated note, I feel like going to subway now.

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On an unrelated note, I feel like going to subway now.

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http://i65.tinypic.com/idzki9.jpg

Mmhh...

http://i66.tinypic.com/nd7gjr.jpg

Yes, go get some..

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Originally Posted by Zari

That isnt what the OP was saying at all. He was saying if SOMEONE ELSE responded like that to him he would then say "oh then do you mind if I (do something that he shouldnt as his job) because I mean, it is my sub"

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THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.
and also *She*
and the sub sandwhices made my day. Thank you all!

I think the OP is talking about finding a sub that might not be his but he acts like it is and eats the whole thing.

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http://i65.tinypic.com/idzki9.jpg

Mmhh...

http://i66.tinypic.com/nd7gjr.jpg

Yes, go get some..

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Eat subway, get little girls. I will nevah look at subs the same way again.

Every time I see MRW I think "Mrow?" as in what a confused cat would say.

When noobness is met with a condescending tone, the result is never good, and egocentric. It's worse when the chat happens in party as each player will most likely try to 'prove' something. It really makes it awkward for the other players in the group as well.

I think we all can admit that the game is far more enjoyable when the player base gets along with each other. Sometimes I think it just takes taking a step back and remembering that we all have similar goals, especially in an instance. It's a lot harder to accomplish them if engaged with each other instead of ugly mobs.

I actually agree with the OP. If you are being an ass while giving advice, then maybe the "I play the way I want" response is necessary.

I was in a Arboretum with my FC. Tank healer and me on BLM. We got a pug SMN. Now we're all high end raiders with extremely good dps, but everything was dying so slow. So I started watching the SMN. He had good gear, but was basically throwing shadow flare down and then ruin spamming with an occasional deathflare. Not a single DoT or Bane. So I VERY politely asked him his reasoning for not using dots. He said cause the mobs die to fast and it's a waste and he'll use dots when we get to the boss. These pills were taking 3+ minutes and we pointed that out to him in a nice way. Got the "I play how I want response" so got kicked. Sorry bro

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If tanks and healers don't get free passes, then neither should the DPS imo. A few kicks from a group every now and then, no matter who it is, be it a tank, healer or damage will help people to learn that they shouldn't be lazy. We all want to get out of the dungeon just as fast as you do.

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Originally Posted by Aaliyahrose

MRW someone tells me this from now on:

"Oh...so do you mind if I tank this entire dungeon in Sword Oath while you tank? Meanwhile, I will use Cover whenever possible and Clemency the party? Because that sounds like A LOT OF FUN to me."

I will have so much fun with this if I ever get the chance! ;)

Even if people play average at their job I still wouldn't care. However, declining advice is like a slap in the face. (even IRL) I don't get this reply much when I attempt to give advice on how to better themselves as a player to learn new things, but this reply most of the time pertains to DPS.

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hey Rose :)

in dungeon i use sword oath on bosses since pld dps i'sent that bad but you need watch hate ofc.
on trash monster is very difficult to hold hate with sword oath.

Whenever someone is being an obvious time waster, like the BLM who would just use Fire 3, then Blizzard 3, with random Thunder 3's and Flares thrown it, my initial reaction is vote kick. Most of the time I just help them. They went from being a random button presser to a semi-competent BLM by the end of the Aery

I still don't understand what MRW is tho.... I personally thought she was trying to say something about a MRD, but like an advanced class or something, or maybe thats what people call marauders that whine a lot... Like a Marauwhiner. I dunno...

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I still don't understand what MRW is tho.... I personally thought she was trying to say something about a MRD, but like an advanced class or something, or maybe thats what people call marauders that whine a lot... Like a Marauwhiner. I dunno...

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MRW = My Reaction When

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Originally Posted by Dubah

I still don't understand what MRW is tho.... I personally thought she was trying to say something about a MRD, but like an advanced class or something, or maybe thats what people call marauders that whine a lot... Like a Marauwhiner. I dunno...

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lol this is where my confusion started too

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Originally Posted by Garotte14

MRW = My Reaction When

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Thanks!

Had a mnk in arboretum his only lvl 60. Next highest was his 15 for soul stone. Then a few random lvl 1s. He only got single stacks of greased which would fall off. And he only got that like.... maybe 5 times in the whole dungeon. So.. just pressing random buttons basically. I was just laying in to him the whole second half of the dungeon. Told him at the end to visit Hall of novice. Still got a commend from him. Lol

I've played with tons of people who took advice from me. I played a gladiator to level 20 lol. But I pay attention to what other people do that works, so if i see something I will happily add in my 2 cents, if he takes the advice cool, if not oh well as long as we complete the dungeon, but some times people take it as you are calling the person crappy at their job. Which is not at all what I'm doing, if i see a tank do this and it worked, im gonna repeat it. I wouldn't mind if someone commented on how i play, it may open my eyes to something and i will try everything at least once.

I always appreciate tips from anyone, even if given rudely. I would appreciate it if it wasn't rude, but you can't change a jackass, hence "stubborn like a mule". I never take it personally as I would try to maximize my playstyle learning from the pros.