Hunts need their HP scaled back

Been trying to work on relics for my other jobs and finding that hunts are too hard to solo most of the time. Even level 50 hunts, 60 is almost impossible.

Most people do not do hunts anymore and SE buffed the 60 hunts HP back when a lot of people were doing them. They are not that popular anymore but this makes it extremely difficult for someone who wants to do them now for additional relics.

My advice to you SE is to scale back the HP on A rank hunts in HW areas due to the few people that do them now. They don't need super buffed HP anymore that they were given in 3.0-3.1

I'm surprised there aren't active hunt groups on Sargatanas. Hyperion still has several hunt linkshells, and it's easy to find help to take these mobs down. Only once recently did I call for backup on an A rank and only one person responded... we just whipped out our chocobos and duo'd it pretty easily, although it took a few minutes.

The A and S rank hunts were never intended to be soloed. A ranks were and are intended to be killed by at the least a light party. S ranks are expected to take multiple full parties.

I've successfully tank/healer 2 manned most of the HW A ranks. The HP amounts are fine.

I've never had a problem killing Heavensward A ranks even in very small groups of 2-3 people. I'm sure hunts will become relevant yet again in the near future; what's the point of scaling back the hp now if they're only going to need to raise it again later?

ARR A-ranks are still better for relic progression anyway.

Hunts are still done all the time on my server.

They need their HP increased if anything, they die in a few seconds with a large number of people and makes it more of hide and seek tag rather than "hunting".

Hunts need a buff relative to amount of people in a fate radius zone in my opinion, EG super powerful with over 100 people.

On my server either you are solo or can find 1-2 people and nobody wants to do an A rank HW hunt with that few due to it taking like 15+ min to kill. The HP buff they were given was due to the fact they were dying too fast. But right now they are not dying fast and if you can only get at most a couple of people to do them it takes too long to kill thus their HP should be scaled back because the HP buff has created a problem of people not being able to kill them with just a few.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I've never had a problem killing Heavensward A ranks even in very small groups of 2-3 people. I'm sure hunts will become relevant yet again in the near future; what's the point of scaling back the hp now if they're only going to need to raise it again later?

ARR A-ranks are still better for relic progression anyway.

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The problem is that it takes a very long time with that few people. Many are not willing to try with that few. Not that you can't do it that it takes forever. If they had the same HP they had at launch it would be much more manageable but SE super buffed them at the 3.1 release I believe.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

On my server either you are solo or can find 1-2 people and nobody wants to do an A rank HW hunt with that few due to it taking like 15+ min to kill. The HP buff they were given was due to the fact they were dying too fast. But right now they are not dying fast and if you can only get at most a couple of people to do them it takes too long to kill thus their HP should be scaled back because the HP buff has created a problem of people not being able to kill them with just a few.

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Sounds like you're doing something wrong as it takes around 5minutes for most duos I'm with in under i200 gear though I guess that depends ultimately on your class/chocobos and what not. We have hunting linkshells established on our server to pull people in helping us even at dead times. It's not so hard to gather some friends to help I imagine which is the purpose of group activities.

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Originally Posted by MihaelB

Sounds like you're doing something wrong as it takes around 5minutes for most duos I'm with in under i200 gear though I guess that depends ultimately on your class/chocobos and what not. We have hunting linkshells established on our server to pull people in helping us even at dead times. It's not so hard to gather some friends to help I imagine which is the purpose of group activities.

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Not doing stuff wrong I beat raid content my rotation is correct. The mobs just have a massive pile of HP. Hunt linkshells all but died off for the most part. Go duo any HW hunt it will not take 5 min.

a lot of ARR a ranks can be soloed by sch with chocobo out. not sure about HW A ranks

I am doing a lot of hunt for collection and future benefits of relics. You see most people have seph ex weapons now. It does feel kind of dumb getting a worse weapon for all that work, which is why people aren't doing hunts. When I finish my next relic I won't even be using it cause already got seph weapons. A lot of people just don't think relics are worth it anymore, which is why hunts are so inactive.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

The A and S rank hunts were never intended to be soloed. A ranks were and are intended to be killed by at the least a light party. S ranks are expected to take multiple full parties.

I've successfully tank/healer 2 manned most of the HW A ranks. The HP amounts are fine.

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The A & S ranks in ARR areas were scaled for light and full parties(or more) made up of level 50 characters, level 60 characters are somewhat more powerful, power creep has already scaled those hunts down quite a bit.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Not doing stuff wrong I beat raid content my rotation is correct. The mobs just have a massive pile of HP. Hunt linkshells all but died off for the most part. Go duo any HW hunt it will not take 5 min.

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Are we on the same server? My friend and I duo them all the time. My hunt LS is always calling stuff out. o.O They are super easy lol

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Not doing stuff wrong I beat raid content my rotation is correct. The mobs just have a massive pile of HP. Hunt linkshells all but died off for the most part. Go duo any HW hunt it will not take 5 min.

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I'm in an extremely active hunt linkshell that spawns S ranks pretty often. *shrugs*

Barely anyone hunts on Cerberus anymore, in fact I think people generally stopped hunting not even that long after Heavensward was released. It went from people zerging them to nobody even calling them. The back and forth arguments about how many people hunt on each others servers is rather silly as every server is different.

I don't see the point in scaling their HP back when it will need to be increased again when they become relevant - but I do think they should implement a system where a hunts HP is determined based on how many people previously killed the hunt. I made a thread requesting this a long time ago and didn't get much response, however this is how the FATE system works so I don't see anything wrong with applying this to hunts.

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Originally Posted by MihaelB

Sounds like you're doing something wrong as it takes around 5minutes for most duos I'm with in under i200 gear though I guess that depends ultimately on your class/chocobos and what not. We have hunting linkshells established on our server to pull people in helping us even at dead times. It's not so hard to gather some friends to help I imagine which is the purpose of group activities.

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Please tell me which HW A mark you have duo in 300 seconds in under i200 gear? ^^;

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

Barely anyone hunts on Cerberus anymore

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Uh, are you playing on the same Cerberus as me? Hunting is pretty active, there's multiple relatively busy hunting LS which call hunts basically around the clock, and I know several people who are very actively involved in spawning S ranks. We've killed KB - arguably the most difficult S rank that currently exists - at basically every time of the day already, even at 4 in the morning. There's rarely times when any S rank (excluding Nuny) is left open for an extended period of time, and many of them are regularly spawned before 50%. In short: I don't really understand what you're on about, hunting on Cerberus is fine.

Every ARR A rank Hunt, for the exception of the walking desert cucumber, can be soloed with a healer/damage dealer combo chocobo back up. The claw will be a lost cause if it throws up both buffs as counter measures at the same time. To the original poster, if you can't solo or even duel them at level 60 il190+, you are doing something wrong.

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Originally Posted by _slowpoke_

In short: I don't really understand what you're on about, hunting on Cerberus is fine.

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I've been trying to kill A ranks for months now purely for the achievement and have to scrape friends together to kill them. I'm not sure what you're talking about, either. Maybe we play at different times and hunts are more active at certain times but this doesn't mean I haven't seen countless A ranks sitting around after being called and nobody even shows up.

The only recently activity I've seen is a group of people zerg an S rank in Hinterlands a few days ago. /shrug

Maybe I need a new huntshell. Still, this doesn't mean other servers are active. I still stand by what I said - hunts need fixing in some way.

Almost all of the ARR A ranks can be soloed with a chocobo. I found it easier to be certain roles for some of them, like Marberry I found better to be tank, Alectyron I had to be heals.

There were a couple I couldn't manage though, I think Ballerina and Final Flame (off the top of my head) had one-shot mechanics I struggled with

I soloed (with chocobo) some of HW A rank hunts from churning mist and azys lla.. It took like 18-20 mins or so to kill with ilvl 200 WAR.. Almost nobody cares for A rank in my server..

Then again, I'd rather the developer makes them relevant again rather than scaling their hp/mechanic to make em soloable..

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Originally Posted by randysquirrel

Almost all of the ARR A ranks can be soloed with a chocobo. I found it easier to be certain roles for some of them, like Marberry I found better to be tank, Alectyron I had to be heals.

There were a couple I couldn't manage though, I think Ballerina and Final Flame (off the top of my head) had one-shot mechanics I struggled with

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Sabotender Ballerina & Final Flame are both soloable as Warrior as I've done both. When I was soloing Final Flame when hunts were dead I had a crowd gather around me and watching. It was funny. I got a round of applause since no one was doing that at the time.

Toughest I had was probably Vogaal Jaa. Maahes is annoying, but also possible. All others are easy.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

I've been trying to kill A ranks for months now purely for the achievement and have to scrape friends together to kill them. I'm not sure what you're talking about, either. Maybe we play at different times and hunts are more active at certain times but this doesn't mean I haven't seen countless A ranks sitting around after being called and nobody even shows up.

The only recently activity I've seen is a group of people zerg an S rank in Hinterlands a few days ago. /shrug

Maybe I need a new huntshell. Still, this doesn't mean other servers are active. I still stand by what I said - hunts need fixing in some way.

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U sure do need a new hunt linkshell , hunts in the server are pretty active and i see them getting called all the time

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Originally Posted by Iromi

Are we on the same server? My friend and I duo them all the time. My hunt LS is always calling stuff out. o.O They are super easy lol

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I don't disagree with them being easy I disagree with them taking 5 min to duo it upwards of 20 min to duo any HW hunt.