Frontlines need to be revived

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03-20-2016, 06:30 PM
Evangela

Frontlines need to be revived

The new Wolves' Den arena mode killed the populations of Frontline players. Please add new content for Frontlines.
03-20-2016, 06:42 PM
xxczx

when people want new wolves den, we got it

but now people want new frontlines when a new mode just got released

damn needy ppl
03-20-2016, 06:50 PM
Brianmj

This is the pattern, the new mode kills the old mode. Slaughter killed Secure, Seal Rock killed Slaughter, and now the Feast is the focus for most people. When 4.0 rolls around, I imagine we'll get a new mode (nobody expects a new mode for 3.x, right?) that'll knock the Feast off its perch. Surprisingly 72 player Seal Rock is still a go on Primal, but I was able to get this only once last night.
03-20-2016, 07:47 PM
Nalien

I've suggested this a few times now;

They should have worked the solo rankings system so that it incorporates everything. A Ranking Roulette for PvP, essentially. That keeps everything relevant and allows them to add new modes for variety, rather than new modes to replace content... The existing PvP Roulette is nice, but it doesn't work since it is a daily bonus people queued for once then most resumed queuing for a specific mode. A Ranking Roulette would be constantly in use, since we'd use it to raise our solo ranking.

The Fold, Secure, Slaughter, and Seize would all need updating to accommodate such a thing though... We'd need final stats to be uniform (that's my way of saying add Assists to old PvP), and there are a few other tweaks they could make (adding Adrenaline to the really old stuff, general balance tweaks to bring them up to Lv60, etc.). Beyond that we'd just need the way rating functions to be more individual based, rather than the final result. Still have a win/loss factor in, but if you play exceptionally well, racking up plenty of kills but still ultimately lose? That's worth +rating IMO. Likewise, if you play abysmally and die a dozen times but your team still wins, that's worth -rating. Worried about how Frontlines matches are far longer than Feast? Don't be. Longer matches = more chances for assists/kills = greater rating reward. Shouldn't be too hard to balance...

I'd also suggest the rankings be separated by Job, since that gives us more opportunities for rewards (and better rewards; PvP Relic weapons) and essentially balances out the meta. Jumping on a particular bandwagon because it's effective just gives you more competition for that number one spot, where as (as of right now) something like Dark Knight likely wouldn't have much competition in ranking. Perhaps I'm overestimating how that would play out, but I'd hope it results in more balanced Job spread, rather than stacking Summoners/etc....

IMO, that's a better solo ranking system, and it's better for PvP in general... It keeps everything relevant and provides variety... Might be some issues with queues, since Wolves' Den requires less people, but with such a Roulette that "hardcore" PvPers will be using over and over, one would hope the "casual" can queue up for Secure or Seize and have the Roulette fill that queue up... As much as I like Feast (aside from the balls rating/matchmaking system and all the salt my Dark Knight is producing), I'd much rather have variety in PvP than this flavour of the month crap I've hated since Slaughter... Game needs a proper PvP Roulette, and rankings is the perfect opportunity to implement such a thing, IMO.
03-20-2016, 09:20 PM
Spawnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxczx

when people want new wolves den, we got it

but now people want new frontlines when a new mode just got released

damn needy ppl

not every1 likes wolves den thats why they do frontlines obviously
03-20-2016, 09:52 PM
xxczx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawnie

not every1 likes wolves den thats why they do frontlines obviously

cus frontlines is babbys 1st pvp
03-20-2016, 11:15 PM
Spawnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxczx

cus frontlines is babbys 1st pvp

my game b4 ff14 had wars where there was over 500 people 4 different factions all fighting for territories so yeah i prefer more than 4 opponents :3 and your comment shows how mature you are :3 wouldnt be surprised if your 1 of the elitists who abuse the team during and after a loss :3
03-21-2016, 12:14 AM
xxczx

thats nice
03-21-2016, 01:03 AM
Jinglybell

I bet if they added a new title for 5,000 assists in seal rock called the guiding hand or something (and added assists there of course) it would be alive again. Im sure people will queue for seal rock again once they realize they don't have the skill/luck to be the top person on their data center. (also couldn't they still win trade for the top spot if they qued in an uncommon language? IDK about it, but I wouldnt be surprised if it worked)

Id be happy with a new seal rock map, but im not complaining at least pvp got something this patch.
03-21-2016, 04:10 AM
Dyvid

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxczx

when people want new wolves den, we got it

but now people want new frontlines when a new mode just got released

damn needy ppl

How about PvP were you can make a blanket roulette queue like every other MMO out there? That's what I want.
03-21-2016, 08:04 AM
Synestra

I would support this only if we get option to que only for 24man, if not then im glad Feast "killed" FL as getting 72mans is awesomely rare nowdays.
03-21-2016, 08:34 AM
Spawnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synestra

I would support this only if we get option to que only for 24man, if not then im glad Feast "killed" FL as getting 72mans is awesomely rare nowdays.

i get bored nows waiting for frontlines to pop and end up loggin out n playing somethin else as i do all my roulettes during the day and like to relax spam some frontlines of a night time while doing some fate grinding leveling other jobs so since they killed it im playing less ._.
03-21-2016, 08:57 AM
Dimitrii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawnie

i get bored nows waiting for frontlines to pop and end up loggin out n playing somethin else as i do all my roulettes during the day and like to relax spam some frontlines of a night time while doing some fate grinding leveling other jobs so since they killed it im playing less ._.

Frontline was fun but sadly the PVP community is way too small to support more than 1 mode at a time, especially a larger scale mode like frontlines. Its conceivable that feast may die though in a few weeks and more ppl will be doing frontlines again. Only way really I see it being resurrected. I have not been in one frontline match since feast came out.
03-21-2016, 09:13 AM
Synestra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawnie

i get bored nows waiting for frontlines to pop and end up loggin out n playing somethin else as i do all my roulettes during the day and like to relax spam some frontlines of a night time while doing some fate grinding leveling other jobs so since they killed it im playing less ._.

Wierd as i still get same que times as before, its 10-25mins so its not bad at all specially when you get 24mans most of the time. Would love to do Feast but i dont have team for light party and solo que is definition of unfun, so besides challenge log i have no intrest doing it at all.
03-21-2016, 09:16 AM
Chiramu

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxczx

when people want new wolves den, we got it

but now people want new frontlines when a new mode just got released

damn needy ppl

People actually wanted old Wolves' Den to be revived. People didn't ask for The Feast. All they needed to do was bring a matchmaking system, leaderboards and different maps for the old Wolves Den.
03-21-2016, 12:19 PM
myahele

The best thing we can hope for is to finally remove the GC restriction. This will boost queue time, but how much? Who knows.

Assuming they'll follow the trend of making a new PvP mode every few patches then perhaps we'd get a GC-less Seal Rock type mode? Maybe make it 8v8 or even 8v8v8 with smaller map?
03-21-2016, 12:48 PM
Eul

Well in my data center both frontline and feast queue is fast at evening time. I think because people go to the roulette and want cap tome faster.
03-21-2016, 12:52 PM
Spawnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synestra

Wierd as i still get same que times as before, its 10-25mins so its not bad at all specially when you get 24mans most of the time. Would love to do Feast but i dont have team for light party and solo que is definition of unfun, so besides challenge log i have no intrest doing it at all.

i queued on and off for over 4 hours last night... had 1 frontline pop in that time and didnt have a healer in the team lol so yeah was real fun :P

i leave queue if it reaches around 40mins leave and re-queue cause after 40mins it will never pop know that from experience.. got bored offlined watched furious 7 tried again after n nothin so logged out again XD
03-21-2016, 01:27 PM
Keramory

They manage to give us insentive to do different kinds of pve content of all types... I don't see why they can't do the same for pvp. I like the new feast, I do... But I really like frontline too. If I was more pvp intense this would be even more true. It's two completely different modes, I don't want to be stuck only doing one thing
03-24-2016, 03:16 AM
Iagainsti

I usually queue the roulette when I log in for the daily 40 lore, last night took 10 mins, couldn't even finish 1 set of beast tribe dailies.

I swear by PiP when queuing solo, it speeds up queue time imo.
03-24-2016, 03:31 AM
NorthernLadMSP

I hate the Feast. I miss Seal Rock greatly, and wish it was still popular because that was some of the most fun I've had in this game.
03-24-2016, 06:29 AM
Spawnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

I hate the Feast. I miss Seal Rock greatly, and wish it was still popular because that was some of the most fun I've had in this game.

agreed... seal rock was fun :( even if you lost could still manage to have some fun in it... ive seen feast matches end in less than 2 minutes due to people not fighting.... havent had a frontlines pop in days and i queue alot for it = =
03-24-2016, 03:58 PM
Isala

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawnie

had 1 frontline pop in that time and didnt have a healer in the team lol so yeah was real fun :P

And that's why I have everything maxed. God do I hate healing in Frontline... But given the choice between me healing, and us having a chance, and having no healer at all... Time to bite the pillow.
03-24-2016, 05:59 PM
Chiramu

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

I hate the Feast. I miss Seal Rock greatly, and wish it was still popular because that was some of the most fun I've had in this game.

I miss Slaughter. I loved healing everyone in the skirmishing best.
03-24-2016, 07:04 PM
Spawnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isala

And that's why I have everything maxed. God do I hate healing in Frontline... But given the choice between me healing, and us having a chance, and having no healer at all... Time to bite the pillow.

im working on it slowly but ive never liked or been any good at caster classes lol my old game my gfs toon when she piloted would get around 300 kills a war :P id be lucky to get 50 on hers XD
03-24-2016, 07:59 PM
Glenfiddich

I'm still doing Frontline because i want the Mount (the floating ball). But i guess it will take forever to get it. Since the Feast was added I could only win 7 or 8 matches out of about 40 matches.
I play for Flames, maybe that's the real issue :D
Speaking about Healer in Frontline. In all the matches I've played since the Feast was added (about 40 or so) I've had 10 Healer.
Anyway, I prefer to cap weekly Justice Tomes at Frontline instead of Dungeons. It's much more fun to fight against real people who know their classes.
But I worry that soon nobody is interested in doing Frontline.
03-25-2016, 02:28 PM
CoolCat

I miss seal rock I really do. I still get into matches now and then but not as much as I used to before the feast came. Need 10 more seal rock wins to get the coat, I guess its possible if I que all day and get into a few matches and hopefully win at least one. Its too bad most of the pvp rewards from older modes become harder to get when a new mode is introduced.
03-25-2016, 02:46 PM
Spawnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolCat

I miss seal rock I really do. I still get into matches now and then but not as much as I used to before the feast came. Need 10 more seal rock wins to get the coat, I guess its possible if I que all day and get into a few matches and hopefully win at least one. Its too bad most of the pvp rewards from older modes become harder to get when a new mode is introduced.

honestly i hope they add a ranking mode for both pvp types.. give seasonal rewards each different for feast and frontlines and special seasonal rewards for the highest ranking people from both combined would cater to both groups of pvp players n might even encourage people to do both more often if rewards are worth it
03-25-2016, 03:44 PM
NorthernLadMSP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiramu

I miss Slaughter. I loved healing everyone in the skirmishing best.

I've actually never played Slaughter. I was a Secure freak when it was newer, but after that died down I took a PVP break. I came back when Seal Rock was introduced and had such a blast.
03-25-2016, 08:18 PM
Synestra

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

I've actually never played Slaughter.

Well you didnt really miss anythying, it was 72man TDM so you can imagine how huge clusterf..k it was when all of them were in same spot. If they ever bring slaughter up to lvl60 they need to make new map for it, secure map is not fit for that mode at all.

Also add Assist on FL aswell.