just hit 50 on an alt as paladin

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03-07-2016, 08:14 AM
jamesrandal

just hit 50 on an alt as paladin

so, how do you go about gearing now? still got paladin quest blues and level 49 sword. cant afford 90k gil i115 gear.. dont wanna run level 50 dungeons because everyone will expect a speed run(i dont even know how to in each hard mode dungeon anyway) aggro will definitely be an issue with hw geared dps. help
03-07-2016, 08:20 AM
SpookyGhost

Do the main story quest, iirc you get a weapon before you have to go fight anything, and then different gear and different weapons from there.
03-07-2016, 08:30 AM
jamesrandal

ahh so they changed it? nice
03-07-2016, 10:07 AM
Vials

Falcon's Nest gear vendor then HW dgns upward.
03-07-2016, 10:08 AM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by Vials

Falcon's Nest gear vendor then HW dgns upward.

He can't get to Falcon's Nest yet, his alt isn't in HW content yet.
03-07-2016, 10:51 AM
jamesrandal

Thats correct, but what level will i be when i hit HW 0_0
03-07-2016, 10:59 AM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by jamesrandal

Thats correct, but what level will i be when i hit HW 0_0

Level wise, you don't need t be higher then 50, though I think you might hit 51 with the MSQ stuff. And of course ilvl wise 130 is the highest before HW stuff.
03-07-2016, 02:42 PM
Jpec07

You also get a fair amount of Poetics just from doing the HM primals, and from running your Main Scenario roulette every day. I was able to get my WHM to 120 before doing the Chrysalis - and if you're feeling industrious, you can even open up CT and try to get a run in of that every night.

If you're in blue 130 gear (which you can do with just Poetics now), you won't need to replace anything until you're 55 at least--and even then, only the gear from the Aery is (slightly) better. You could probably even go without replacing most of it until you hit the Vault or Great Gubal Library.
03-07-2016, 07:35 PM
Reynhart

Do the first steps of the relic quest. An i90 weapon can carry you up to HW.

Don't panic for speedruns. Being a first time clearer will give bonus poetics for those that come with you, and with the Anima weapon, they'll thank you for that :)
03-08-2016, 01:43 AM
Ipkonfig

Just because he can't go to HW himself doesn't mean he doesn't have friends or FC mates that could pick him up a set. That said I think the pieces are like 15k each so if you aren't rolling in Gil or have generous friends it probably isn't worth it. Since once you make it into HW you start getting HQ versions of that gear as quest rewards.

That said as long as you upgrade your weapon you shouldn't have threat issues in level 50 dungeons. It scales everyone back so it's more like they are in top end level 50 gear not 60. You won't be able to stance dance as much but as long as you are in Shield Oath and spamming the Rage of Halone combo you should be fine.

I wouldn't waste much time focusing on gearing yourself with 50 gear.. you'll get rid of it pretty fast once you hit HW.
03-08-2016, 05:56 AM
Phileas

If you are new to a dungeon just take it one pack at a time. You control the flow of the battles. Sure some dps can be dicks about it but most i've experienced dont really care about speed run or not so long as you keep the aggro.
03-08-2016, 08:39 AM
Ashkendor

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Do the first steps of the relic quest. An i90 weapon can carry you up to HW.

There's no need to. The MSQ gives you an i90 weapon and your job quests give you a set of i90 armor.
03-08-2016, 10:34 AM
Ragology

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

There's no need to. The MSQ gives you an i90 weapon and your job quests give you a set of i90 armor.

I think there's a point in the main story where you can't advance without completing Hard mode Ifrit, Garuda and Titan. When someone in my FC was unable to get the next story mission from the npc, I helped them unlock those three trials and then they were able to continue again. I don't remember the story quests name though.

The relic takes you through those trials I believe, so might as well pick it up.
03-08-2016, 10:39 AM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by Ragology

I think there's a point in the main story where you can't advance without completing Hard mode Ifrit, Garuda and Titan. When someone in my FC was unable to get the next story mission from the npc, I helped them unlock those three trials and then they were able to continue again. I don't remember the story quests name though.

The relic takes you through those trials I believe, so might as well pick it up.

While I'm not saying don't, it isn't till the end of the relic quest.
03-08-2016, 03:58 PM
Haprimac

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Originally Posted by jamesrandal

Thats correct, but what level will i be when i hit HW 0_0

I was 54 when I entered Ishgard on my elezen alt. I just crafted myself a ilvl115 weapon and had my friend mail it to my alt. But I admit this can be problematic to a tank when there's quite a few primal fights before you get to Ishgard. But then there's another tank you can ask to tank instead. Keeping hate against people with ilvlover9000 can be a pain. :S
03-08-2016, 05:23 PM
Reynhart

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

The MSQ gives you an i90 weapon and your job quests give you a set of i90 armor.

I've done the MSQ before 3.0, so the rewards were different. When does it give you a weapon ?

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

While I'm not saying don't, it isn't till the end of the relic quest.

You mean "the end of the first step", which is seriously not much.
Since you'd want to do Amdapor Keep, you can as well try Chimaira and Hydra to put them in your duty roulette, and, voila ! You have your relic :p
03-08-2016, 05:58 PM
Ashkendor

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

I've done the MSQ before 3.0, so the rewards were different. When does it give you a weapon ?

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Lord_of_the_Whorl
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Through_the_Maelstrom
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Wh...the_Fraternity
03-08-2016, 06:08 PM
Reynhart

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Lord_of_the_Whorl
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Through_the_Maelstrom
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Wh...the_Fraternity

Ok, so, it's not a big deal if you're slightly underweaponized as a tank until then since the only mandatory content you have to do requires 8 people.
Fair enough.