Melding equipment and max stats

I am not usually proficient in melding, I have been hit or miss with it, and am wondering what the order of stats other than MND<--PIETY and so on so forth, and am having troubles with what I can't meld more on.

I am looking for the best stats in order for tanks/dps/heal

Thank you!

On WHM either go full accuracy or meld accuracy on pieces where you can't meld piety (and ofc meld piety on those you can). On sch and ast change piety for crit.

mnd can't be melded

If you're dpsing as a healer, you want accuracy in every single slot.

If you're not, or you think you have enough accuracy, piety is important on WHM since they have bigger issues with MP than other healers, though it's up to you if you think you have enough MP. Things like how good you are at MP management and whether you have an AST co-healer to throw Ewer are factors there.

After that, it's down to the usual Crit vs Det argument. Crit is statistically better point for point and on SCH it's not even a contest because of Adlo, but some prefer Det for it's reliability.

As a healer who decided not to meld accuracy, I've been going by Crit>Det>SpS>Pie.

As Sch I don't mind the no accuracy build because Bio and Bio II don't miss, sure I'll miss a Miasma or Broil here and there, but it's not like that's the worst thing ever, still making a contribution to dps. Tbh, secondary stats mean very little at this point, so just pick a stat that you feel helps you the most and stack it up.

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Originally Posted by RaineAmorie

I've been going by Crit>Det>SpS>Pie.

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this. though i also meld some accuracy since missing pretty much half of all holy and assize is no fun (my plan is to go to about 420 acc or something like this)

Honestly, it just depends on your playstyle and what job you're playing.

I main WHM but sometimes go AST. I used to try my hardest to get as much DPS as I could as a healer, but it was getting frustrating having a lot of misses. Then I sat back and thought about it. I don't raid anymore, so I don't need to worry about that. (Most raids want at least one healer DPSing as much as possible. Usually the SCH.) So then it came down to: do I want a better chance of my stuff to hit if I do decide to keep DPSing, or do I want to focus more on healing again and making my heals stronger? I decided on the latter. If I don't have anything better to do (when I'm just standing there, waiting for the tank to take damage) I'll go ahead and DPS, but I'm not worried about numbers anymore. Also, since I play WHM/AST, Crit isn't the best stat because they don't have the shields that SCH has that could benefit greatly from that stat (unless you go Noct Sect).

I want more reliability, so I decided on DET and SS. Also, I'm good at MP management, so I'm not worried about Piety. I rarely have issues with MP, unless I have people dying left and right haha.

SCH would probably want Accuracy and Crit, though, considering their skills and the way they are played.

Basically, think about your goal, and meld toward it. :)

When I say Crit isn't the best stat, I meant for myself haha. I would rather know how much my heals are going to be, and healing accordingly. If I had a high Crit rate, that would throw it off and I'd end up healing more than intended.

What is better crit or det.getting mixed answers

If you like DPSing in Casual content but don't like missing, you'll probably want to meld at least half your gear with Accuracy materia to minimize that occurance.

If you're going to be DPSing in Savage content, you'll probably want to meld EVERYTHING with Accuracy to guarantee that damage.

If you're looking just for healer melds, any of them are fine as long as they match your play style. I'm personally partial towards Crit. Meld PIE if you need more MP and the item allows for it.

In terms of what can be melded, every single piece of gear in the game has a "stat cap" based on their ilvl. Every piece of Lore / Midas / HQ Crafted Gear will have capped primary stat (MND for healers) and every left side piece (Body / Head / Hands / etc) will have capped VIT as well. Generally speaking the higher of the two secondary stats on a piece will be "stat capped" and the lower will be high but not capped.

Exactly what Ghishlain said. The good/bad thing about playing as a healer is that there is no REAL good right or wrong way to do it, so long as you are optimizing your melds (not losing stats due to melding past the cap). It all just depends on how you play.

Well as ast my priority is

735 spell speed then stacking det > crit

As ast sometimes i feel a bit slow when casting heals in time even if precasted (damn recast) this will reduce recast to 2.35 (noct) and 2.23 (diurnal) after this i will stack det as it flat out increase all damage and healing then will go for crit last if able

Thing is ast really only got GCD spells in order to heal.... Yes we have instant benefic 2 and essensial dignity and yes light speed too... But what players dont know that with spell speed u can get 1 extra cast of whilst in light speed (light speed only effect cast time.. Not recast maximun of 4 cast with no spell speed 5 with 735 spell speed in diurnal need more for nocturnal)

Also spell speed effects all dots and give minor healing to hots (very little) and since comburst 2 is our strongest hitting dot and unmissable

I want to hear opinions on vit in accessory pieces. On the one hand, extra HP shouldn't help too much. On the other hand, the extra HP might be so much bigger than the boost other pieces can provide.
If I don't do any vit, I was thinking of just doing accuracy. While DpSing shouldn't be my focus, I don't feel like my healing needs any more help, and the boost in DpS is bigger than the boost in healing I would otherwise get.

I mainly do dungeon and unsynced content with my healer, if that helps.

If I catch up to the raiding curve, I've been thinking about getting and melding two sets of gear for my Scholar. One stacking Crit>Det for everyday use, and the other stacking Det>Pie>Acc to summon Eos in to boost her heal strength (and for my other jobs when they hit max level). Setting aside the obvious time and gil sink, would that produce any appreciable difference?

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Originally Posted by Zorafin

I want to hear opinions on vit in accessory pieces... I mainly do dungeon and unsynced content with my healer.

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Probably not worth it. But then I've also not had accuracy issues in anything less than the current Expert roulette, so maybe Vit would serve you better.

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Originally Posted by DarthVella

and the other stacking Det>Pie>Acc to summon Eos in to boost her heal strength

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Pet stats get recalculated when you use Rouse (or Enkindle Spur as a SMN). Not really worth it.


As for healer meld priorities, Accuracy, then Accuracy, then more Accuracy, then even more Accuracy, and finally some more Accuracy. Maybe add some Accuracy, too.

But seriously, it's the only secondary stat that has any noticeable impact on your performance and isn't mostly exchangeable with another secondary stat, and this is why you should focus on melding it, no matter which healing job you play. DPSing when there's nothing else to do (and you're not seriously MP-constrained) is part of our job and it's time that people got over this.

Any other secondary stat stacking according to your playstyle should be done by gearing choices, not melds, because we can't really gear for accuracy (thanks, SE).

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Originally Posted by _slowpoke_

Pet stats get recalculated when you use Rouse (or Enkindle Spur as a SMN). Not really worth it.

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Actually, pet stats only get "re-checked" only when you use Spur on SMN. My Fairy is currently healing for approximately 1,720 per Embrace. After, I unequipped everything but head, pants, and weapon (darn you limited inventory) and Rouse'd. Once the buff wore off my average was still approximately 1,720.

So what DarthVella is suggesting does work but I don't think it's worth the Gil and/or effort either since any i240 pieces should out weight any penta-melded i220s in terms of Eos / Selene healing due to the MND differences.

Thanks for the feedback, especially about Spur (that's a bit of odd behaviour, IMO). I'm not intending to pentameld, just to use whatever natural stats and open materia slots are on the top ilevel equipment.

Hi would like to know your opinion on Dragoon. Some say to go for vitality, strength or crit.

I feel Crit and strength might be good but do I need vitality?
Or put all into one kind of stat like all crit or all strength?

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Actually, pet stats only get "re-checked" only when you use Spur on SMN. My Fairy is currently healing for approximately 1,720 per Embrace. After, I unequipped everything but head, pants, and weapon (darn you limited inventory) and Rouse'd. Once the buff wore off my average was still approximately 1,720.

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Hm, I was sure both of them worked the same. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Hrimfaxi

Hi would like to know your opinion on Dragoon.

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This is the healer subsection of the forum. You should probably ask this question in the DPS section or even in the excellent DRG thread.

As SCH, my firt thought was to meld accuracy on everything. However, I'm thinking I should wait to see my accuracy % in Savage content before doing any decisions. If the miss % isn't significant, crit would be my main priority.