Future job speculation

So I've been looking into some of the jobs/classes from previous FF games that are still not included in FFXIV. So far the Samurai and Red Mage classes are the ones that appear quite often and are still not implemented, followed by the Blue Mage. That again, the Scholar appeared twice (FF III and FF XI unless I missed him somewhere else) and yet is still in the game since before Heavensward. Any thoughts?

Also - WHY the hell has the Necromancer not appeared since FFVI Advance?!

I wish holy knight made it back.

Holy Knight was from FF Tactics, right? And isn't that basically a Paladin? I haven't played a Gladiator up to lvl 30 yet, so I'm not sure how they're different lorewise xP

I would be much more excited with completely new jobs:

- a tank with two shields and guns on them?
- dps wielding a great hammer with blunt damage?
- an heavy lancer with greatshield , based on counter attacks, as tank?
- etc

I dont see why this game should be bound with older FF game's jobs such as the usual "give us FFXI red mage and samurai". It s boring. These are different games from different eras with different gameplays.

They should try to create something new. Im glad they decided they create machinist and astro instead of the infamous blue/red mages. These are actually new jobs with fresh design.

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Originally Posted by ZhoRa13

Holy Knight was from FF Tactics, right? And isn't that basically a Paladin? I haven't played a Gladiator up to lvl 30 yet, so I'm not sure how they're different lorewise xP

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Think they used more sword magic. PLD share a couple abilities I think. Just want a dps variant more focused on that. I wouldn't mind seeing more current versions of classes, too. Lightning from XIII is just a flashier red mage.

While you do make a fair point, I'd have to disagree on a couple of them.
First of all - a 2-shield class with guns sounds kind of silly x)
Second - the Machinist isn't all that new and fresh - it feels like a cross between an Engineer, a Cannoneer, a Gunner and a Puppetmaster.
Third - do not underestimate the value of nostalgia ^^ Freya from FFIX and Cain from FFIV were really iconic chacters that made me love and enjoy the Dragoon class. And the Samurai would also fit into the lore. Plus being a iaido practitioner myelf I adore katanas. And the Blue Mage was one of the most interesting classes as you had to explore to find skills you could learn from monsters.

I would, however, also enjoy new classes. Hammer-wielding DPS/tank? Yes! A heavy armored lancer with a tower shield (so... hoplite I guess?)? Yes! I'd play those, just as I'd play someone who dual-wields swords or small axes (Blademaster and Viking/Berserker kind of stuff).

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Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich

- a tank with two shields and guns on them?
- dps wielding a great hammer with blunt damage?
- an heavy lancer with greatshield , based on counter attacks, as tank?
- etc

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First i would also like to see a tank job based on Rhythatyn from Cape Westwind. He just looks like a real tough brickwall tank. <3
The hammer thing sounds also great. Could be tank or DPS maybe like WAR.^^
The hoplit style with focus on counter attacks sounds good but feels bad, could be the worst OT ever.^^

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Originally Posted by ZhoRa13

I'd play someone who dual-wields swords or small axes (Blademaster and Viking/Berserker kind of stuff).

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Dual-wielding classes/jobs are bothering me a little bit. I dislike the dual-wielded knives from Ninja, which are a perfect fit to Rouge, it's to blunt casual design in my opinion. There are so much different kind of ninja weapons out there, but they wont fit to Rouge and are no classic weapons for FF or a RPG, sadly.

For my turn, i want to see a real Bard job, not a crippled Ranger-Bard-mixup. It could be a supporting healer like AST, with songs like ballad or hymn for partywide effects and rhymes and rhythms for specific buffs/debuffs and some sound or sonic magic based attacks.
Bard would also need a redesign of the Archer and his new Job the Ranger. While Archer can mostly stay like he is, the Ranger will be designed like the actual Bard without songs, a WM-like ability at level 30 and a couple of stances for different kind of arrowheads for different damage types and special buffs to different other abilities or class/job mechanics.

I would also like to see a cannoneer, not like a guy with a hug gun under his arm, more like a artilleryman summoning his own placement and man it before he can use nearly all of his skills. It would be immobile and immoveable while manning his cannon. Its primary weapon skills represents different kind of ammunition which are buffing themself mutually.

A job based on light/heavy cavalry with a focus on charges to/through the target. Unsheathing summons his battle mount and sheathing will unsummon the battle mount and nearly all skills are tied to be mounted on the battle mount.

yeah, i'm a fan of locking abilities behind special conditions and complicated design.^^

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Originally Posted by ZhoRa13

Holy Knight was from FF Tactics, right? And isn't that basically a Paladin? I haven't played a Gladiator up to lvl 30 yet, so I'm not sure how they're different lorewise xP

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Holy Knights really weren't anything like our Paladins. They used magic attacks through their blades that each had a secondary effect such as Silence, Confusion, Stop, Doom, and even one attack that had a small chance to just outright kill a target with one shot. One particular character also had the ability to destroy various equipment on targets.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

Holy Knights really weren't anything like our Paladins. They used magic attacks through their blades that each had a secondary effect such as Silence, Confusion, Stop, Doom, and even one attack that had a small chance to just outright kill a target with one shot. One particular character also had the ability to destroy various equipment on targets.

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Except for the last one this sounds similar to the Mystic Knight class/job correct? Maybe another name for it?

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Originally Posted by Legion88

Dual-wielding classes/jobs are bothering me a little bit. I dislike the dual-wielded knives from Ninja, which are a perfect fit to Rouge, it's to blunt casual design in my opinion. There are so much different kind of ninja weapons out there, but they wont fit to Rouge and are no classic weapons for FF or a RPG, sadly.

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Yeah I see what you mean. I'd love the ninja to have a ninjato f.e. Or a pair of sai. "Problem" with FFXIV is that changing the weapon changes the class, so unless they change that bit of the System it's 1 weapon per class/job :P

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Originally Posted by Legion88

For my turn, i want to see a real Bard job, not a crippled Ranger-Bard-mixup.

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I know, right?! A pure Bard could be so awesome to play, like that one "class" from Monster Hunter that somewhat acts like FFXIV's ninjutsu mechanic to make songs from notes.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Except for the last one this sounds similar to the Mystic Knight class/job correct? Maybe another name for it?

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Yeah I'm pretty sure Mystic Knight was the FFV version of it. Never played Tactics, sorry ^^"

Moving away from things we'd like to see in FFXIV the question remains - what jobs do you think are most likely to appear in the next major update? Anyone's dad works at Nintendo... uhm... I mean SquareEnix?

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Originally Posted by ZhoRa13

Moving away from things we'd like to see in FFXIV the question remains - what jobs do you think are most likely to appear in the next major update? Anyone's dad works at Nintendo... uhm... I mean SquareEnix?

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There are rumours about red and blue mage from the last anniversary event, where 2 NPC had a little discussion about black and white are in and red and/or blue could be there in a while.^^
Also Samurai will be included maybe. He lost the battle against DRK for HW, to be available as an dps option...

So my suggestions are Suamurai, Red Mage and Blue Mage, cause they are mentioned by the devs ingame and/or in various events.

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Originally Posted by Legion88

There are rumours about red and blue mage from the last anniversary event, where 2 NPC had a little discussion about black and white are in and red and/or blue could be there in a while.^^
Also Samurai will be included maybe. He lost the battle against DRK for HW, to be available as an dps option...

So my suggestions are Suamurai, Red Mage and Blue Mage, cause they are mentioned by the devs ingame and/or in various events.

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Great! All that remains is to wait and see :)

I do not know FF lore that well

But a beast master, maybe a chocobo breeder? Range dos with pets

Or healer built on leeching and dots?

I believe Samurai is the MOST likely to come in, since it almost did this xpac. Red Mage also seems to be favored. Blue Mage, meanwhile, seems to be stuck in "thinking about it but not sure how we want to do it" type of thing.

Personally I'd like to see Beast Master be brought in as a true pet class while SMN continues to move away from it and focus more on the trances. A way to start from scratch essentially.

To me, the best way to think of a future job possibility is to think of the mechanic first then something that fits in FF lore and current ffxiv job mechanics. Like RDM using spike spells that can be implemented since 1.0 had them or samurai having counters. Some here would love a pure support job like traditional brd and dnc but that would require major restructuring as well as how those jobs can solo content like FATEs.

Now dnc from ffxi is a nice idea if they had an ability to jump in and out of melee, beastmaster or puppetmaster are also ideas if you think of a melee pet job. Sadly a lot of other jobs from FF games would lose a lot of what makes them unique if it makes the jump to ffxiv.