Another Mentor Thread

This one is a question though. I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet but apparently unsynced dungeons and trials count towards your dungeon master progress. If this was common knowledge I apologize. I just discovered this today and it feels a little wrong that after a few hours of soloing Ifrit someone can have the longest part of the grind out of the way lol. on the bright side looks like I'll be getting my crown today xD


Right the question, was this intended?

Yup. The dungeon completion achievement does not take into account if it is synced or not. Just counts the completion.

They knew this when they set the requirements for becoming a mentor.

Why would you "grind" to become a Mentor to begin with?

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

Yup. The dungeon completion achievement does not take into account if it is synced or not. Just counts the completion.

They knew this when they set the requirements for becoming a mentor.

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Well damn. That's just crazy. Why would anyone complain about how long it takes then lmao. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Torunya

Why would you "grind" to become a Mentor to begin with?

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For me to watch the drama in mentor chat, and the crown. But mostly the drama

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

Well damn. That's just crazy. Why would anyone complain about how long it takes then lmao. Oh well.



For me to watch the drama in mentor chat, and the crown. But mostly the drama

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On Jenova there has been no drama, just helpful people chatting and helping the sprouts.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

For me to watch the drama in mentor chat, and the crown. But mostly the drama

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Please don't join Siren's limited slots just to watch and not do anything.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

For me to watch the drama in mentor chat, and the crown. But mostly the drama

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This is the exact reason people are complaining about the Mentor system and how it's being abused. By becoming a Mentor you are agreeing to terms and to follow good player etiquette to set an example to new players. If you're just going to become a Mentor for this reason, please don't bother.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

This is the exact reason people are complaining about the Mentor system and how it's being abused. By becoming a Mentor you are agreeing to terms and to follow good player etiquette to set an example to new players. If you're just going to become a Mentor for this reason, please don't bother.

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Oh I'll give advice when asked but to say watching the chat is abusing the system is stupid. I'm not going to be one of those trolls spoiling the story and such so go away. How is watching the chat bad player etiquette lmao. From what I've heard there is already a problem with too many mentors giving advice at once and being hard to read so what's the problem if I stay silent most of the time anyway?

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

Oh I'll give advice when asked but to say watching the chat is abusing the system is stupid. I'm not going to be one of those trolls spoiling the story and such so go away. How is watching the chat bad player etiquette lmao. From what I've heard there is already a problem with too many mentors giving advice at once and being hard to read so what's the problem if I stay silent most of the time anyway?

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Because your intentions are completely backwards, you don't become a Mentor to "watch the chat" and "for the crown." Go and watch a soap if you want some drama. You are taking up someone else's spot who could genuinely want to help other people as their main intention.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

Because your intentions are completely backwards, you don't become a Mentor to "watch the chat" and "for the crown." Go and watch a soap if you want some drama. You are taking up someone else's spot who could genuinely want to help other people as their main intention.

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So my giving advice when asked is wrong then? If drama explodes in the chat I should chat too and add to the chaos by adding more text to read? I do genuinely want to help but I'm not gonna go out of my way for people who don't want it and won't ask. And taking up another's spot lol? Last I checked it's first come first serve. If I get into the channel that slot is mine till I leave.

I genuly feel bad for the others you are restricting access to just to watch drama and do the bare minimum. You actively help on chat even if you're not asked, "anyone need help" "I'm crafting some gear anyone want some basic gear?" Etc etc. You're basically treating it like FC chat 2.0.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

So my giving advice when asked is wrong then? If drama explodes in the chat I should chat too and add to the chaos by adding more text to read? I do genuinely want to help but I'm not gonna go out of my way for people who don't want it and won't ask. And taking up another's spot lol? Last I checked it's first come first serve. If I get into the channel that slot is mine till I leave.

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So you won't go out of your way to help others as you just stated but you'll grind just for the crown and to watch drama? Okaaaaaaaay.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

So you won't go out of your way to help others as you just stated but you'll grind just for the crown and to watch drama? Okaaaaaaaay.

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Basically. If they need help I'm sure they will ask and then I'll respond. If there are 99 other mentors in the channel giving advice as well what's the big deal? Ignnis I'm restricting others access to watch drama lol? Wouldn't it be the creators of the drama who are restricting access? These forums confuse me so much with what people get upset over and jump on first.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

Basically. If they need help I'm sure they will ask and then I'll respond. If there are 99 other mentors in the channel giving advice as well what's the big deal? Ignnis I'm restricting others access to watch drama lol? Wouldn't it be the creators of the drama who are restricting access? These forums confuse me so much with what people get upset over and jump on first.

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You're completely missing the point, you've basically stated you're becoming a Mentor for those reasons and that's not a good reason to be one. Obviously the people creating drama are restricting access as well, that doesn't need to be stated in your defence. The whole reason people are "upset" is because you're misusing the whole intention of what a Mentor is for.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

You're completely missing the point, you've basically stated you're becoming a Mentor for those reasons and that's not a good reason to be one. Obviously the people creating drama are restricting access as well, that doesn't need to be stated in your defence. The whole reason people are "upset" is because you're misusing the whole intention of what a Mentor is for.

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Well sorry to disappoint you. If me becoming a mentor mainly because I want a crown by my head and I like to watch drama is bad in your eyes I'm sorry. I'll still be helping people it's just not at the top of my list. Honestly my reasons for becoming a mentor don't really matter if I still help people. Yes the ends justify the means. I want the crown so I'll become a mentor. After I'm a mentor I guess I'll help people when they ask for it since I'm already there. The drama (if any) is just a nice side show to keep me interested.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

Well sorry to disappoint you. If me becoming a mentor mainly because I want a crown by my head and I like to watch drama is bad in your eyes I'm sorry. I'll still be helping people it's just not at the top of my list. Honestly my reasons for becoming a mentor don't really matter if I still help people. Yes the ends justify the means. I want the crown so I'll become a mentor. After I'm a mentor I guess I'll help people when they ask for it since I'm already there. The drama (if any) is just a nice side show to keep me interested.

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I don't think you're wrong or bad. I think that being willing to help without a desire to create the drama is all we can really ask for. Sure there's the whole "principle of the thing" purist approach, and doing it because you really only want to help people is great (and those people are out there and good for them too), but we can't expect every mentor to be like that.

He could be worse, I mean going to watch the drama isn't exactly good, but at least he'll be helping. There are mentors who abuse the kick system, complain about helping Novices, and pretty much use the Novice network like a Linkshell. There are mentors who are so bad that the Novices are afraid to even ask for help and some of them beg to be kicked out of the network so they don't have to deal with them anymore so I think compared to that what he's doing is pretty much nothing.

In my experience novices want out even faster when the mentor chat is being used to fight about what the mentor chat is for...so the people trying to police the chat are doing as much damage as the unhelpful people.