A source of tier V? question mark

Went to check out the accessories to see if the datamine matched up, and saw this...

http://i.imgur.com/JdimQaK.png

I don't really know how reliable spiritbonding sky pirate stuff is, but only being able to get 1/2 of these pieces per week may not be very useful. I just noticed that none of the other 180 items can be converted to materia and 170 items very rarely yield tier V. Is this also useless and unreliable or potentially a way to dump red craft tokens for a chance at tier V?

interesting....I got so many unused red script , will give it a try

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Originally Posted by AishaNymph

interesting....I got so many unused red script , will give it a try

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My stats are good enough that I don't need to bother with tier V...for now. Look forward to any feedback/testing people can offer.

I logged in just to post how absolutely furious I am at this.
So firstly, it's DoH only, right? OK, I'll just quicksynth some stuff around 56-59, that'll get it up at least fairly quickly, it's all worth it for the chance of a V, right?
Wrong.
Anything 56-59 doesn't even bind it.
OK, sure, so maybe it'll take a bit more effort? I crafted 2 Stuffed Chysahl (Level 60), and it didn't even bind. Let me re-iterate: it did not even bind.
Why did you even bother making these convertible? My gear is more than enough for 3*, what do you expect me to craft to bind these? What was the point?
I just wasted 6 red scrip tokens on this, and I'm not even able to SB them in dungeons or whatever. Not like that's even possible any more either. I'm so done with this V materia grind.

Did you try binding it using those new cheap 2 stars synths? There's one for each masterbook 4, like :
http://xivdb.com/recipe/31502/Sewing+Needle
or
http://xivdb.com/recipe/31501/High+Mythrite+Nugget

All cheap to make, and all useless. Can't be spiritbound, as not equipable. Not crafting material, and not desynthable either. I can't see an other reason for them to be around than providing spriritbinding.
The materials are 1 star to gatherers, so good way to bind stuff too.

I didn't, but I'm gonna guess the equivalent for CUL is this http://xivdb.com/item/14141/Sweet+Gnomefish?
If so, this is still 30k per fish on my server, since I didn't level my FSH yet. Guess I should probably work on that, but if that's the case I hope it isn't a ridiculous amount of crafts still.

Edit: Tried it, it binds, but I'll wait to see how many it takes once I have easy access to the fish.

currently Spiritbonding a full set now (30 red scrips) to see what kind of of conversion rate i get.
using just 2 rings would be cheaper, however making a ton of items using 7+7 (14 crystals) is just not worth it for 2 items. need to make a full set to be worth while.

EDIT: SB full right side+waist (30 Red crafting tokens)
2/6 T5 (control 7 and craft 11)
Main gil cost was wind 7 fire 7 (only bought wind cuz i was too lazy to farm it.

Quick Synth Sewing needle with SB buff II and SB potion (made 330 needles) for 100% SB (needles use 3x Beastkin Horn, was cheap on MB 50 gil up to 1k)

I kind of expected that these recipes were for SB'ing. What Materia did you get?

I am spiritbonding a full set right now. I'll edit this post with results. Remember to repair between quick-synth rounds, a 99-item QS knocks the durability down to well under half.

I like the Aurum Regis Planisphere for getting the Type-1 Crafting Receipt - no timed node mats.

Emerald Soup to hit the Craftsmanship requirement (easily). I'm failing about 10% of the QS. I am not sure if that affects SB speed. After a stack and a half of QS and using a Spiritbond Potion the items are at 40%. ... time passes ...

So here I am, with 298 High Mythrite Nuggets, 29 Griffin Leather Straps, 11 Camphorwood Lumbers, and 6 100%SB'd L180 Accessories. Time to Convert!

Necklace: Craftsman's Competence IV
Earings: Craftsman's Cunning IV
Bracelet: Craftsman's Cunning IV
Belt: Craftsman's Competence IV
Ring 1: Craftsman's Competence IV
Ring 2: Craftsman's Cunning IV

Not a bad haul for the amount of time spent (not counting the time getting the red scrip), but no luck on grade V. :(

I don't know the source, but of the seven craftsmanship V on my server, five or six popped the last few days

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

So here I am, with 298 High Mythrite Nuggets, 29 Griffin Leather Straps, 11 Camphorwood Lumbers, and 6 100%SB'd L180 Accessories. Time to Convert!

Necklace: Craftsman's Competence IV
Earings: Craftsman's Cunning IV
Bracelet: Craftsman's Cunning IV
Belt: Craftsman's Competence IV
Ring 1: Craftsman's Competence IV
Ring 2: Craftsman's Cunning IV

Not a bad haul for the amount of time spent (not counting the time getting the red scrip), but no luck on grade V. :(

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The sad thing is in the time it took you to do this you could've made the money to just buy those materia outright on the MB.
I don't see why ILVL180 doesn't result in guaranteed Grade V for the effort it takes. Or would that be too "accessible", SE?

Well, 6 is something of a small sample size. It would not surprise me at all if the i180 has a good chance at Tv and he just crapped out on his luck. It would similarly not surprise me at all if the chance of a Tv is only around 5-10 percent, and what he got was to be expected, either.

The only thing that would surprise me would be a complete inability to get Tv crafting Materia out of these accessories.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Well, 6 is something of a small sample size. It would not surprise me at all if the i180 has a good chance at Tv and he just crapped out on his luck. It would similarly not surprise me at all if the chance of a Tv is only around 5-10 percent, and what he got was to be expected, either.

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Agreed. Hopefully more people will post results so we can get an idea of what the odds are.

I just tried this and ended up with 6 rank 4, which took 348 crafts with a SB potion. I don't think I'm going to try again.

I did a 2nd set (6 items) and got 2craftIV, 2CPIV,2CrtIV 0/6 T5 materia
The 1st attempt gave me two T5, but getting 0 on 2nd attempt has discourage me to even bother with it again :/

End result:
12 items >>>>>>2/12 Grade 5 Materia
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Grade 4 (100% chance to get grade 4)

What i kinda cannot understand is why would you need to check if i180 can yeld crafting materia V when it was already confirmed its possible to get it from i170. Imo it's obvious higher ilvl will grant the stuff if the lower one does. Also wouldn't it be cheaper to just sell token mats on MB and buy tier V directly off the MB or are the prices of it still too high on your servers :?

I think they're trying to determine if the convert rate to V is good enough to warrant putting in the effort.

The cheapest I've seen any crafting gear, i170, on my server's board has been in the 300-400k range, for NQ. That's more than the price of a t4 Materia, though well under the price of a t5 crafting Materia (which started, last I looked, around 2 mil and quickly went up from there; that was historical pricing though as I've never actually seen any t5 crafting Materia for sale).

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Originally Posted by Caeles

it was already confirmed its possible to get it from i170

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Where was this confirmed? I've had people tell me they've converted dozens of 170 items and received nothing.

I will spiritbond a set when I next have 30 craft tokens to get more information on the odds of T5.

Supply of V gathering materia is up a bit on Famfrit since the patch. Crafting materia is still quite scarce. There have been exactly 2 Command V on our MB since HW dropped

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Originally Posted by Sethira

Where was this confirmed? I've had people tell me they've converted dozens of 170 items and received nothing.

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for example in there? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ng-Accessories

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Originally Posted by Caeles

for example in there? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ng-Accessories

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thank you - I can't imagine the chances are too good, is there a larger sample to look at?