I have seen it posted that to calculate the synth level of an item above your crafting level is (XP-250)/50. Does anyone know how to calculate the level of an item below your crafting level?
Calculating crafting level question
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10-21-2011, 05:51 AMzerrithCalculating crafting level question
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10-21-2011, 09:32 AMDerkatronIgnoring the bonus for gained quality (as you have above) the calculation would be (Current level - 10) + (XP / 25). So if you got 125 exp (without bonus) at level 20 the craft would be level 15. Obviously you don't get exp for items 10+ levels under you, so no way to calculate those accurately.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerrith
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10-21-2011, 09:36 AMzerrith
How does the quality bonus work then (so I am sure I am being accurate)?
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10-21-2011, 09:41 AMDerkatron
Quality bonus is .1% increase of the level-generated experience per point of quality gained. If you did a recipe 1 level higher and went from quality 10 to 30, you'd get 300xp+2%, or 306xp total. It's rounded to the nearest whole point, unsurprisingly.
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10-21-2011, 12:26 PMtymora
http://forums.yg.com/showthread.php?t=1388
Might want to look at my old post, I haven't verified the all the base exp for levels below in 1.19 though.
This formula doesn't apply to recipes more than 6 levels below.Quote:
(Current level - 10) + (XP / 25)
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10-21-2011, 09:44 PMDerkatron
I was actually using your post for most of my calculations Tymora, thanks for your hard work. I wasn't aware that it broke down below six, my testing wasn't very through that low, appreciate the clarification!
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10-21-2011, 11:36 PMAleczanWhat is the result of this formula? How far is it (the recipe) above me?Quote:
(XP-250)/50
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10-21-2011, 11:48 PMDerkatronYes, its the number of levels above yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleczan
For example, say you are level 30, and make an Ornate Steel Thingamabob. You had a starting quality of 10 and ended with a quality of 40, and you get 515xp.
First, you'd get rid of the quality bonus. You had 30 points of increased quality, so you need to divide the xp total by 1.03 (as in Tymora's post, [QUALITYGAINED*.001]+1, or as I posted, a tenth of a percent per point of quality), getting 500.
Then you'd apply the second formula since it's over 250, (XP-250)/50, because each level over yours adds 50 xp.
This gives you 5, which means the actual level of Ornate Steel Thingamabobs is 35. -
10-22-2011, 12:20 AMAleczan
Thank you! But I am quite dense at math. Correct me if I am wrong.
I am trying to figure out the Eye of Ice's level.
Got 603 EXP.
Got Quality from 15 to 19.
I am level 25 Goldsmith.
So I have to do 603/1.004 = 600.59
Can I do a round down?
And just go (600-250) = 350
So.... 350/50 = 7 levels above me?
Sooooo if I got so low gain in quality, I can just omit it?
And be like (603-250)/50 = 7.06 -
10-22-2011, 01:33 AMDerkatron
Yep, that looks solid to me, Aleczan.
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10-22-2011, 02:26 AMAldarin
Thank you for posting these formulas, they will really help out in determining the levels of the new recipes
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10-22-2011, 05:36 AMzerrith
I created an excel worksheet to do these calculations and posted it on google docs. Here is the link if anyone wants to download it.
https://docs.google.com/a/qmail.qcc....2MWNl&hl=en_US -
10-22-2011, 06:17 AMAleczan
I sure want that!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!
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10-22-2011, 06:18 AMzerrith
There was a problem with the formula on the last upload. Here is the update https://docs.google.com/a/qmail.qcc....3NTAz&hl=en_US
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10-28-2011, 05:58 AMNeko_Yanagi
Getting an error....
"Sorry, the page (or document) you have requested is not available. Please check the address and try again." -
10-28-2011, 01:33 PMDerkatron
Thanks mooglebox for the twitter link here, the more folks know how to check levels, the more synth levels we know!
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10-28-2011, 07:33 PMzerrithSorry, the share settings were wrong. It is fixed now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neko_Yanagi
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10-28-2011, 07:45 PMNayt
On the spreadsheet, all I see is a list saying -10 over the pages.
Do I need to download it to use it? -
10-29-2011, 12:52 AMAleczanYeah. You have to download the .xls file and then type in the info you got, like your level, exp from the synth, and how much quality you gained, then the last column will pop up the calculated result for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nayt
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10-29-2011, 02:44 AMtymora
For the most part (at least spamming Standard), you can simply drop the "quality gained" part by rounding down to nearest 50 and use that to calculate the level. Quality doesn't have much effect unless you gained ~60-70+.
E.g. 315 exp gained -> 300 exp = +50 exp from 250 = 1 level above your crafting level. -
11-13-2011, 03:01 PMSipono
From what I've found it's:
+50xp each level higher
250 base at same level
-25xp each level lower until 6 under current level
-10xp for at least levels 7-10 under current level
as for -11 or more levels under current: i don't know breakdown yet -
11-14-2011, 05:40 AMtymora
Updated http://forums.yg.com/showthread.php?t=1388 with base exp up till -16.
You are off by a little bit there :pQuote:
-10xp for at least levels 7-10 under current level
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11-21-2011, 11:52 AMSiponoWow. Really. You're gonna counter my xp numbers with a thread that hasn't been updated by any of the posters since March of 2011? Who's the one that is a little bit off here? My numbers were as recent as the day I made my original reply. Based on the thread link you posted, people should still be getting 500xp for a recipe same level and we all know that isn't the case. Next time check your source for rebuttal a little better before you wanna contradict someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by tymora
As for the -10 for levels 7-10, I meant it was -10 per level from the 100xp you'd get from a recipe -6 levels. So that -7 levels was 90xp, -8 was 80xp, -9 was 70xp and -10 was 60xp.
*Edit* Ok I sorta apologize. I didn't see the multiple pages of your thread link before responding. As for my numbers I had only done a few recipes that were -7 or greater so I didn't have a lot to make good calculations. -
11-21-2011, 03:11 PMtymora
Apology accepted.
YG seems to be dead now, so I might find a new home for that.