Equip help

Hi all, i need an help and useful infos from you about the way to go for me .
I've all 150 pieces unmelded now...so my next steps can be:
- overmeld to reach 170ilv min stats
- get 180 BSM MH red scrip
- craft OH BSM 170 and BSM set 170
- craft all OH/MH set
- choose second job set

can be a valid progress?
any helpful hint?

:D

Overmeld until reaching 2* stat

Then craft your tool
Do not bother touching this red script crap !

And aim for all off-hand crafted
The belt
Then all set

It depends on how much gil you want to spend on overmelds. If you want to save a lot of money, you can grab the ilvl 180 mainhand and offhand. They are huge upgrades.

Without ANY melds, you will already be at 755 Crafts and 668 Control. Invest in Control and CP +4 materia and put them in the secure slots. You will reach two star stats easily. If you're a specialist, it is even easier (Bonus +20/+20 Crafts/Control).

Then, craft your ilvl 170 accessories and the belt --> fully meld them. Next step would be getting to three star. I assume you will have to upgrade at least your body armour. But again, you can either craft the ilvl 170 and meld it or get the ilvl 180 equivalent. (The 170 body fully melded (without materia Vs) is a bit stronger than the 180 body.)

So, I have played around with Ariyala's Tool. You will get to 851 Crafts, 810 Control and 414 CP with the above suggestion (and the specialist crystal).
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SORU

The missing 10 Control can be bridged with Food, FC Buff or new upgrades.

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Originally Posted by Seyb

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Without ANY melds, you will already be at 755 Crafts and 668 Control. Invest in Control and CP +4 materia and put them in the secure slots. You will reach two star stats easily. If you're a specialist, it is even easier (Bonus +20/+20 Crafts/Control).

Then, craft your ilvl 170 accessories and the belt --> fully meld them. Next step would be getting to three star. I assume you will have to upgrade at least your body armour. But again, you can either craft the ilvl 170 and meld it or get the ilvl 180 equivalent. (The 170 body fully melded (without materia Vs) is a bit stronger than the 180 body.)

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I've 12 mil on my hands and i've already several CON+4 and CP+4 from crafter quest and 50red scrip.
Haven't choose any specialist atm....think to go with BSM, GSM and (dunno).

so take 180 MH and OH then? meld my 150 with all my CON/CP materia and start the way to 170?

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Originally Posted by Lialiin

so take 180 MH and OH then? meld my 150 with all my CON/CP materia and start the way to 170?

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If you have enough time, yes. But keep in mind that the mainhand alone takes 3 weeks of red Scrips. I assume the offhand will require the same amount.
If you don't have the time, you will have to meld your way up. :/

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Originally Posted by Seyb

If you have enough time, yes. But keep in mind that the mainhand alone takes 3 weeks of red Scrips. I assume the offhand will require the same amount.
If you don't have the time, you will have to meld your way up. :/

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26x2 = 52
I've 50 red so next week i can buy both :)

(assume that OH it's still 26 red)

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Originally Posted by Lialiin

26x2 = 52
I've 50 red so next week i can buy both :)

(assume that OH it's still 26 red)

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That's great! :D One last word: you will "lose" 4 CP each because you can't meld CP to the 180 main and offhand. BUT the best rotation (in my opinion) is Rath's Rotation which only needs 437 CP. Add 18 CP for a free touch and you're at 455 CP needed. This value can be achieved without melding CP into the main and offhand. :)

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Originally Posted by Seyb

That's great! :D One last word: you will "lose" 4 CP each because you can't meld CP to the 180 main and offhand. BUT the best rotation (in my opinion) is Rath's Rotation which only needs 437 CP. Add 18 CP for a free touch and you're at 455 CP needed. This value can be achieved without melding CP into the main and offhand. :)

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ok so ..let's start the way to became a billionaire :D

I still stand by the fact that if you can craft your own tool
Taking the i180 crap is waste of everything -,-

And the tool are really easy to craft with à simple overmeld

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Originally Posted by Nekotee

I still stand by the fact that if you can craft your own tool
Taking the i180 crap is waste of everything -,-

And the tool are really easy to craft with à simple overmeld

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i choose this way because i've already 50 red script so wait 2 day for a MH and OH it's not a problem
then i can easily focus on other 170 equip with less materia investiment.

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Originally Posted by Seyb

That's great! :D One last word: you will "lose" 4 CP each because you can't meld CP to the 180 main and offhand. BUT the best rotation (in my opinion) is Rath's Rotation which only needs 437 CP. Add 18 CP for a free touch and you're at 455 CP needed. This value can be achieved without melding CP into the main and offhand. :)

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Do you happen to have a link to Rath's rotation? I'd appreciate it :)

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Originally Posted by Rafe_S

Do you happen to have a link to Rath's rotation? I'd appreciate it :)

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Sure, it is in this thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Materials-Gear

It is included in the first post, but here's the original post:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3188383

Thank you very much :)

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Originally Posted by Seyb

It depends on how much gil you want to spend on overmelds. If you want to save a lot of money, you can grab the ilvl 180 mainhand and offhand. They are huge upgrades.

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sorry for bother you again :D
which job it's better to start to take MH and OH? So i'll craft the token to exchange it :)

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Originally Posted by Lialiin

sorry for bother you again :D
which job it's better to start to take MH and OH? So i'll craft the token to exchange it :)

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Personally, I had bought the ilvl180 mainhand for my blacksmith, so I could craft most of the ilvl170 offhands without those crazy melds. That's a good start, because it boosts most of the other classes and enables them to do two star as well (upgrade from 150 MH to 180 MH is almost the same as 140 OH to 170 OH). But it's a lot of work.

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Originally Posted by Seyb

Personally, I had bought the ilvl180 mainhand for my blacksmith, so I could craft most of the ilvl170 offhands without those crazy melds. That's a good start, because it boosts most of the other classes and enables them to do two star as well (upgrade from 150 MH to 180 MH is almost the same as 140 OH to 170 OH). But it's a lot of work.

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okkkkk ty boss! :D

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Originally Posted by Seyb

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SORU

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I can't tell you how much stress you saved me. I hadn't even thought of just remelding a few pieces for BSM and my non-specialists. But your little showing combined with the red scrip gear I had bought means that I have much less catch up ahead than I had originally thought. You have my thanks.

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Originally Posted by Lialiin

ok so ..let's start the way to became a billionaire :D

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One thing to point out, for rath's rotation which can be used in 3star crafting as well, the optimal CP is 471 and that is not achievable with 180 MH & OH

And for why 471? its because a single ToT will boost your "free" touch from 1 to 3

Also since the 170 MH/OH are so much lighter in red script consumption, I highly recommend them over the 180 versions

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Originally Posted by MiniPrinny

I can't tell you how much stress you saved me. I hadn't even thought of just remelding a few pieces for BSM and my non-specialists. But your little showing combined with the red scrip gear I had bought means that I have much less catch up ahead than I had originally thought. You have my thanks.

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Very glad to hear that!:)

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Originally Posted by AishaNymph

Also since the 170 MH/OH are so much lighter in red script consumption, I highly recommend them over the 180 versions

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That is correct. BUT I have just spent 12 Million Gil worth of materia to make 2 ilvl 170 MH and 3 ilvl 170 OH as strong as their ilvl 180 counterparts.
Sure, I would rather spend 12 Million and save 15 weeks of red tokens, but for someone with enough time (or with enough red tokens), it is a great alternative.

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Originally Posted by AishaNymph

One thing to point out, for rath's rotation which can be used in 3star crafting as well, the optimal CP is 471 and that is not achievable with 180 MH & OH

And for why 471? its because a single ToT will boost your "free" touch from 1 to 3

Also since the 170 MH/OH are so much lighter in red script consumption, I highly recommend them over the 180 versions

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i know.
infact ill take only BSM MH and OH (ive allready all red) to craft the other 170 counterparts.

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Originally Posted by Seyb

Personally, I had bought the ilvl180 mainhand for my blacksmith, so I could craft most of the ilvl170 offhands without those crazy melds. That's a good start, because it boosts most of the other classes and enables them to do two star as well (upgrade from 150 MH to 180 MH is almost the same as 140 OH to 170 OH). But it's a lot of work.

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Hey seib...with only teh MH i'm very near to min.2*stats .
i'm lack of CP becuause atm i've only 384 :D but i'm working on it...think to buy all right side and meld it .
On ragnarok full right side it's only 8-9mill

That's not a bad price for the full right side. But if you want to do it yourself, you are only missing 5 CP.
With 389 and HQ baked onion soup you will habe enough CP for Rath's Rotation.
You could also invest in HQ seafood stew for an extra 50 CP. Then you're only missing 3 CP.

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Originally Posted by Seyb

That's not a bad price for the full right side. But if you want to do it yourself, you are only missing 5 CP.
With 389 and HQ baked onion soup you will habe enough CP for Rath's Rotation.
You could also invest in HQ seafood stew for an extra 50 CP. Then you're only missing 3 CP.

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okk ty again :D

yesterday i've successfully synth GSM MH and LTW MH with no issue using rath rotation. (440 gp with seafood NQ)
Problem's is that gathering favour mats it's really a time and red scrip comsuming .