[spoilers]3.2 MSQ Discussion/Reaction thread

I love hearing people's thoughts. Any and all debates/arguments welcome.

I was surprised totally-not-Elidibus-or-his-servant actually came out of his hidey hole in the Stones and helped us directly with Sephirot. And, not entirely surprising, the Garlean story has been integrated into the Triad.

I'll post more later when my Antitower queue actually pops.

To Quote a character im very fond of,

"A Drink..." "tis long overdue!"
/sigh
/faint

TO BE UPDATED AS I GO


Revelations in the Antitower

So, we've got information on the old cosmological order. The Light and the Darkness were as one reality, but (so Hydaelyn claims,) Zodiark broke the balance in His lust for power. (Not a hard story to believe.) Hydaelyn thus banished Zodiark to the heavens, forcing them to remain forever apart - planet and moon.

However, this separation put reality under such stress that the planes shattered. We are told that thirteen reflections were cast, implying that our world is the last of the frequently cited fourteen - the original. In each of these reflections is stored a shard of the Light and Darkness' power. Zodiark plots his revenge by using the Ascians to re-merge these reflections, and have so succeeded seven times.

So ... we've got LIGHT, and DARKNESS and the Original World. Twelve reflections remain.

Is the math finally started to make sense?
The seven heavens, minus Light?
The seven hells, minus Darkness?

Even siding with Hydaelyn as loyally as I have, I can't help but wonder what of the story has been left out. We could one day find that Light and Darkness are not supposed to be as separate as they are... but if the planet and moon separating created out reality and stressed it to its limits, can we really just undo that and expect anything of the familiar to survive? Seems so unlikely, even now. And yet all we get from the Warriors of Darkness is a grumpy look from Darklander.

The Dragonsong War

Well, that didn't go according to plan. And the art direction sure took a very Resident Evil approach to Estinihogg. And this war just got suddenly much more complicated. How does Hraesvelgr respond to his brood brother attempting to slay his daughter? Would the dragons unwilling to follow Nidhogg fight alongside the Ishgardians? Would Ishgard let one last generation go to their graves fighting dragons for a true purpose? It seems like a fitting end to the war, really. Ishgard does what they do best, but for the friendship of the dragons who refuse hatred. But then you have Celestial Dragon vs. Celestial Dragon. How does that work in the grand scheme of things? Or do we write Nidhogg off as long-dead, squash his eyes, and wander away with Estinien?

So I think a few of us are going to be quite vindicated for our worry.

Our worst fears for Minfilia were realized. She's not entirely an individual anymore.

And yes, those were glowy eyes of doom. it actually made her look very doll-like and innocent. I wonder if that was intentional after the demon dolls of Antitower?

Also, definitely getting FFXI vibes from the Zodiark bit. The whole "as one, split, wanting to be whole" bit again is very much Promathia. That might have been what Yoshi was referring to in the that interview saying he was intentionally drawing parallels to XI's multiple worlds. But in the end of CoP, Promathia was accepted by his partner once again. Interesting.

My own random baseless crackpot

Notice the phrase 'maintaining her form' is used regarding Minfilia?

Now, what if we gave her a crystal. . .

Edit as I continue: Oh hey, I was just having a conversation about Aymeric earlier today.
Glad to see that that particular tidbit wasn't ignored.

One thing I'm appreciating in this patch, more than normal, is how expressive the WoL is now, complete with dialogue options to boot. No more pure blank-faced stoicism, we get some actual reactions.

Well, we can see where 3.3 is going now. It just seems it's a bit more...physical than I believed. I'm not sure if we can just Echo separate them with the eyes burned into his flesh like that. Though I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we can somehow magically save the day, because we're us and demi-god miracle workers. I wouldn't be surprised at Hraesvelgr having a part in 3.3 as well.

Last update -
So, ah. That first Alex quest.
That's a neat little book he has there, hmm? And here he is, spouting Second Best Ascian's lines about how fate is written, too.
Of course, I could just be seeing things I want to see and it may be disproven later in the questline (which I probably won't have time to do for about 12 hours).

On Nidhogg;

As I suspected, Nidhogg can switch between Dreadwyrm and Dragoon stance... And absolutely no indication of where he went during 3.1... My money is still on him plotting something with the Garleans to ensure the hammer of the Empire is brought down upon Ishgard regardless of how the Dragonsong War goes... No, not him allying with them, I swear if one more person reads "Tell the Garleans that Ishgard have their own Primal" as "Nidhogg and Garlemald are BFFs"... We even know he can take on human form now, so you can all shut up about how Garlemald would shoot him on sight, despite that being a fairly terrible rhetoric anyway; They shoot us on sight, and we still have pleasant little conversations with them after, all without becoming their BFFs...

On Minfillia;

Yay, she sacrificed herself to deliver us a message and... cut out before she could finish it... Seek what? Bah! All the "Seek <something>" in various lyrics are going to bug me now...

On Hoary Boulder;

Anyone else get a Blue Mage vibe from his comments about the souls of his enemies? I certainly did...

On Y&P

Well, not really, but it came right after them... That mask? I'm guessing Illberd was the fella walking up to it, just because we've not seen him for a while...

Still think Y&P are in Paglth'an, though... We got the Popes throne room in 2.4 before 3.0, after all, so why are we getting clearly Thanalan areas for Y&P if they're in Gyr Abania? I can see Ala Mhigan refugees spilling over into Paglth'an, and I could see Garlemald having a station there they same way they have in Sea of Clouds, and it certainly is the closest place to Ul'dah that we can't go...

okay some responses & my own reactions
@Nalien/Hoary

I read it entirely as a tie-in to the Zodiac Braves / Zodiac Weapons being a big thing in the East. Blue Mage would be neat though

@Gods of Eld

Well, shite, this makes me skeptical of Lil'dibus theory, but I still think it's likely. I'm also glad how they chose to handle Extreme encounters of the Triad--things like Ramuh and Shiva EX always felt weird canonically to me.

Regula confirmed Kefka. Not surprised, but it's nice to know. If he ends up pushing Varis off the Flagship to his death and Garlemald is treated to another War of Succession, MAN

A little disappointed I couldn't find any changes on the Flagship

A lot of Sephirot's attacks seemed to be Dravanian named? His theme was rather unexpected and definitely seems to point "the truths of the world" again.

@MSQ

Ziggy Stardust? Really SE? Right in the heart.
A bit disappointed in the Word of the Mother since it more or less told us that the New Years' Poem (and the Gerun Oracles) was close to the mark. I could've lived with ambiguity for more veiled confirmations tbh.

Another patch another day we remain never knowing who killed Niellefresne. Especially since this was the "Minfilia patch" I was really holding out hope....

I kind of want Isildaure to join us in a battle someday.

I seriously thought Vidofnir was gonna end up dead there too. Honoroit as well tbh, I should really shake that first reaction.

The mask being Ilberd is a neat idea, my first thought went to the Disjointed One from XI's ROV and I really hope it isn't that.

I liked the melee combat, but didn't like the post-3.2 teasers.

Where's Alisaie? Where's the Ascians? Maaaaaaannnnnn

My first reaction to mask dude was actually "That's Nero" lol

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@Gods of Eld

Well, shite, this makes me skeptical of Lil'dibus theory, but I still think it's likely.

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The very last sentence of your post? That was me. No Pashtarot, no Second Best Ascian. I cried.

As for the spoilered quote

He's still related to Elidibus, guaranteed, and almost undeniably Ascian, but there's a reason why I put -or-Elidibus'-servant in my horrible nickname list. I think it's also likely that he is to Eli as Chalice and co were to Lahabrea.

Can I ask what was the mask being picked up right after Yda and Pap had a scene? I didn't recognize it.

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My first reaction to mask dude was actually "That's Nero" lol

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My first reaction was a resounding "Smokin'!"

This kicked Sephirots theme out of my head, not sure if ok with this...

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Originally Posted by Grayve

Can I ask what was the mask being picked up right after Yda and Pap had a scene? I didn't recognize it.

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No idea... If I've not just missed it, I'm guessing it is something along the lines of Tupsimati... Some ancient artifact of some sort...

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Is the math finally started to make sense?

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So... What happened to Midgardsormr? Dude just flew off at the end of 3.0 and we haven't seen him since... Dude is the worst father ever... He is the Britta of Dragons... You'd think being as old as time would mean you'd have learned how to discipline your damned kids...

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Originally Posted by Rocl

He's trying to put his Silvertear Seal puzzle back together. Unfortunately, he doesn't realize it's a lot simpler if you start at the corners...

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The one he broke? Still can't get over that... All the ways to take out the Garleans, and he opts to crash their ship into his seal... Even if that was a "Primals will get summoned and that'll slow them down!" like I've seen suggested in the past... No, he is a giant serpent who can coil around their ship and crush it, nevermind the mouth beam of death... I'm pretty sure he could scare them off alone if he didn't opt to coil around a crashing ship and "die" with it...

"Where the serpent lies" in Sephirots lyrics is becoming more and more questionable the more I dwell on this... I'd rather have a suddenly evil wyrm, than one that is seemingly as incompetent as Middy is coming off as...

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So... What happened to Midgardsormr? Dude just flew off at the end of 3.0 and we haven't seen him since... Dude is the worst father ever... He is the Britta of Dragons...

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He's trying to put his Silvertear Seal puzzle back together. Unfortunately, he doesn't realize it's a lot simpler if you start at the corners...

Minfillia

The first thing I thought of when we saw Mifillia was that she is Tempered, or worse. However the difference, she is no longer herself(by Hydelyn's behest pretty much) which leads to my next point.

The Possible Radicalization of the Scions

There was something about Alphinaud's concerns that spoke to me, even as it was about the events of Estinien and Minfillia. While it sounds like the mark of loyalty to stay with a cause past the point of reason, to "Do whatever it takes" to further it(Specifcally, Matoya's speech scene after the Antitower), There was something cold and dreary about it, like we could slowly become our own monsters, all with justification of being the planet's defenders. (I don't find it a coincidence that now the token and crafted gear is using materials blessed by primals, assumedly for more common use) There was nothing comforting about what needs to be done, and maybe that was the point...but I saw no light out of that tunnel they were selling. Alphinaud's desire to save Estinien is the sort of thing I would have laughed at in 3.0, but I'd rather believe in that than turning into a scourge.

Trigger warning: Offering Drinks

Kallera: "I swear, At this point, I'm gonna just pretend to have it."

The more I think about, it kinda plays into the whole of the 3.2 scenario!

The first time,
Aymeric offers a drink when the celebrations are over, our hesitation in agreeing meaning that we are still holding to a part of the past.
Then during the first conference, we take the drink, and fall into a scheme all over again. Our trust broken yet again, as it happens during the conference.
Finally, when Alphinaud offers drinks and talks about his feelings. We...well depending on the response, remember different times, of friends long past, and put trust in his words...perhaps even have that warm drink.

I'm glad some measure of characterization is finally coming into play here for our character.

In regards to Mide and Alex:

I noticed a nice little tidbit between the MSQ and the second Alex quest. Aymeric goes on and on about how it's only the future that matters, but Mide is exactly the opposite. She says straight out that it was her complete focus on the future that destroyed her and her dreams.

That being said, I don't think there's anything SE can do to salvage Mide at this point. She'll always be special snowscars to me.

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Originally Posted by Zul

To Quote a character im very fond of,

"A Drink..." "tis long overdue!"
/sigh
/faint

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Oh, lol I completely forgot about the last time we shared a drink with a leader of a city ... no wonder my character made a face. I thought he was just being angsty due to what happened to Minfilia.

Also ... poor Vidofnir :( seems as if many people from 3.0 is dying: Her, Ysayle, etc.

I guess the "good" thing is that Ishgardians know that Nidhogg and his brood are the true enemies and are united in their hatred against him.

I was hoping we'd get more answers out of Minfilia, but it's the knowledge we've know for a while now :/ Though I guess it's nice confimation

Shit, man. Just... shit.

Antitower

Worst fears realized - Minfilia's not really herself anymore. Instead, at least for the time being, she is "The Word of the Mother," Hydaelyn's mouthpiece.

... well, can't say I didn't see it coming. Something something Zodiark wanted power, something something I banished him as the moon. None of that... really matters. Why did our dear friend have to sacrifice herself? What have we been fighting for all this time? A world with no place in it for Minfilia?

I just...

I...

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Dragonsong War

Emmanellain is unsure of what to do, having been told his entire life. This actually hit pretty close to home for me, because it's something I'm struggling with as well.

Despite the best efforts of traditionalist holdouts, we almost get a peace treaty through... and Estinien-Nidhogg crashes the party. Bastard. Well, we knew from the outset he'd still be an obstacle to peace... best to deal with him now, and if he's going to challenge us all that remains is to rise to the challenge and end his quest for vengeance. If we just pry those grotesque eyes off Estinien's armor, I bet we could bring him back... easier said than done, but even so.

Tourney fight with Raubahn. Easy as pie!

The final showdown with Nidhogg coming in 3.3, I bet. Time for the Aery (Hard)?

Warring Triad

Still not sure what to make of Unukalhai. He seems to have connections to the Ascians, but we have yet to get any concrete information, and I don't want to jump to conclusions.

... still, you can tell the stress is getting to the Warrior of Light. Aside from the dialogue choices being not so optimistic and peppy as usual, s/he is taking time to respond and lacks the usual smile and nod. Probably just wants to get that freakin' drink from Ameryic, or maybe go cry in a corner for a few days... but a hero's work is never done.

Well, at least I still have Wind-up Nero.

3.0 MSQ:

Emannelain had the character arc I wanted for G'raha Tia. Really happy they finally went there with someone, still really sad how they handled the first character driven to subservience by his inferiority complex.

Minfilia's gone Daniel Jackson on us. Dammit Heidi, you commanded her to you expecting her to make the call to sacrifice herself willingly. That's a dick play and you should feel bad. And she definitely didn't tell us everything.

Alphinaud has finally reclaimed the crown of most precious bby from his overachieving sister. Hot damn. Feeling a little vindicated, and more than a little grateful that finally someone in-universe has caught on to the stuff that's been bugging me since 2.5. He's probably right in thinking there's more to the Light and Dark than what we've been told, else why would Eldibus even exist? Even if it turns out he isn't, I'd rather stick with someone who didn't just go on blind faith.

Y'shtola is earning antagonist points. It was easier for me going off of the Japanese voicework, but Matoya 's Small Talk made it pretty clear that she was most definitely not trying to steel our resolve. She was being the judgmental old crone she always was, and Alph got the hint, but rebellious pupil Y'shtola, as usual, thinks she was right to begin with. Glad to see her finally find a character flaw.

Estinienhogg is bad news, but I'm with Alph on this one. You can't save anyone if you write them off before even trying. It'll be hard, and potentially ridiculous, but we have to at least try. That Alph brought up Ysayle again makes me wonder if we'll get one last dance from her before this is done.

SO MUCH BETTER than 3.1. Still need to do Alexander and Sephirot and Hildibrand, but those will get done. I may go through the Japanese script later in the week, too, for people who are interested.

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Also ... poor Vidofnir :( seems as if many people from 3.0 is dying: Her, Ysayle, etc.

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Vidofnir survived. So did the lady Emannelain ordered shot down, for that matter. It looks like the writers are finally ready to let medical science catch up with the rest of our late-industrial tech. Not to mention healing magic is an in-universe thing that never gets mentioned out side of class quests about healing.

Yeah, we're definitely not getting the full story when it comes to light/dark. Even Alphinaud sees that we're missing things.

That's not just my bias speaking, either, that's SE pounding the foreshadowing into our heads via the most visible source.

I'm actually getting FFXII Esper unreliable-narrator vibes from it. Altima was demonized by history because she challenged the Gods themselves (that's not to say she had good intentions, mind you, given what we see of her in FFT); history condemns her as evil because you have the Gods' side of the story.

Thancred.......

The way Thancred looks at the WoD near the end makes it seem like he wants to join forces with them, since he has a chip on his shoulder regarding Minfillia. Not because he hates the Scions, but rather the way Hdaelyn directly interceded with Minfillia, and put her in a position to make a choice she would obviously make (self sacrifice). I also don't think this is the way it'll play out but it would be interesting having to duel Thancred with the WoD, since I don't really see the WoD's as "bad" guys anyway (apart from being dick'ish).

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Thancred.......

The way Thancred looks at the WoD near the end makes it seem like he wants to join forces with them, since he has a chip on his shoulder regarding Minfillia. Not because he hates the Scions, but rather the way Hdaelyn directly interceded with Minfillia, and put her in a position to make a choice she would obviously make (self sacrifice). I also don't think this is the way it'll play out but it would be interesting having to duel Thancred with the WoD, since I don't really see the WoD's as "bad" guys anyway (apart from being dick'ish).

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Even after avoiding the aetherial tchnobabble that could affect his person, he's just not himself anymore. IMO, I never cared for the dude in the first place, but now its gone from "petty squabble I can't RP" to "honest disagreement I could RP".

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Oh, lol I completely forgot about the last time we shared a drink with a leader of a city ... no wonder my character made a face. I thought he was just being angsty due to what happened to Minfilia.

Also ... poor Vidofnir :( seems as if many people from 3.0 is dying: Her, Ysayle, etc.

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Vidofnir isn't dead, I went to give her a hug at Anyx Trine after I was done with the MSQ.

Let's give Raubahn "Ifrit" Aldynn a hand for his performance. :D
What a cutscene beast.

I like that we kinda seem to be seperate from the rest of the Scions nowadays, they've got dozens of people doing odd jobs from the Rising Stones now. Us, Krile, Alphi, Thancred and Yshtola are sorta like the head honchos who pop in every now and again.

I find its interesting that in no way was Minfillia's fate described as tempering, or anything related to primal tactics, yet the parallels are inescapable.

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I find its interesting that in no way was Minfillia's fate described as tempering, or anything related to primal tactics, yet the parallels are inescapable.

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Isn't the Echo pretty much tempering by Hydaelyn? I mean, every time a primal tried and failed to temper us, they would exclaim we were "claimed".

I do have to say... the Grand Melee fight is a lot of fun, and is something that I would most definitely welcome doing again.

[spoiler]Minfilia:

The theories that involved her being taken over by Hydaelyn proved to be correct. She did not sound entirely pleased by her fate and I can't help but feel as though Hydaelyn coerced her and did not tell her - or us - everything. It's easy for Hydaelyn to blame Zodiark but I suspect that there is much more to the conflict between Light and Darkness than 'Good' and 'Evil'.

Triad:

Garlean involvement isn't all that surprising. If they plan to go down the FF6 route, though, one has to wonder why they introduced a completely new Emperor...especially if he's just going to be betrayed and killed off. I suspect that there may be a twist. Regula could very well be Tempered by the Triad...or driven insane by Allagan technology. Perhaps it's just me but he seemed slightly rougher around the edges than before.

Krile:

Interesting that she mentioned being the sole survivor of the destruction of the Isle of Val. Hydaelyn saved her but left others to perish - so she definitely plays favourites despite claiming to love 'all of her children'.

Estinien:

I sort of expected him to show up. It seems like we'll be dealing with him as the main antagonist of 3.3. I like that Alphinaud is trying to save him. I hope he breaks away from the rest of the Scions as they ultimately become more cynical and jaded. If we can't save Estinien, though, I imagine that'll send Alphinaud over the edge.

Side notes:

- Aymeric's wound being problematic was a neat touch.
- I liked the motives and passionate speech of the maid during the chaos in Falcon's Nest. Her position was easy to sympathise with and it made sense - and I'd love to see more of that sort of thing in the future to make conflicts even more morally dubious.[/spoiler]

Will add more when not so knackered - I just really need to get this off my ashamed chest...

The Grand Melee was cool... I only have one problem... and that is that I am absolutely wrought with disgust and shame over having to fight for the Ishgardian side and not at the side of my sworn nation, Ul'dah (even if them other two were there also)... digging the dagger further in was that I had to wear that armour!

To all of my Immortal Flame's out here/there, I am sorry; however, I will forgive this forced allegiance for one reason... and that is I got to fight the man himself, Raubahn, and he was awesome. /flamesalute

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Will add more when not so knackered - I just really need to get this off my ashamed chest...

The Grand Melee was cool... I only have one problem... and that is that I am absolutely wrought with disgust and shame over having to fight for the Ishgardian side and not at the side of my sworn nation, Ul'dah (even if them other two were there also)... digging the dagger further in was that I had to wear that armour!

To all of my Immortal Flame's out here/there, I am sorry; however, I will forgive this forced allegiance for one reason... and that is I got to fight the man himself, Raubahn, and he was awesome. /flamesalute

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Raubahn seemed rather pleased that he had a chance to fight us. He even went all out just to make sure he would have us all for himself. I'm surprised he didn't go straight for us right out the gate.

One last response before I hit the hay, now that I can look over the rest of these spoilers without, well, spoiling myself:

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A lot of Sephirot's attacks seemed to be be Dravanian named?

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Actually, they're Hebrew. Anyone who's played Tales of the Abyss will see the attack and add names as weirdly familiar, and that's because both are lovingly copypasting from the Kabbalah, which is also the originator of the Sephirot.
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Fun fact: the "bennu" adds in T12 are also Hebrew: it's one of a few Hebrew names for the Greek "phoenix." The overahbuhndahnce of "h"s evehrywhere is mehrlehy an ahrtihfahct of rohamnihzihng Hebrew, a phonetic style that (best guess) was emulated for the Dravanian tongue for the sake of not sounding generically Latin like made-up-absurd-percentage of constructed fantasy languages generally do.

Anyone else feel like Aymeric is falling in love with us?

Just me?

Okay.

i just realized the cs after you beat sephirot can't be watched at the the in and since i skipped it yesterday i now have no clue what actually happened. can anyone give me a summary pls?

The moment that Aymeric mentions about having a drink after the peace conference, and just thr WoL remembing things that happened. Omg very well Yoshi, very well.

Also I really have a bad feeling that we might have not choise and we will Estenien at the end.

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Anyone else feel like Aymeric is falling in love with us?

Just me?

Okay.

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Well for my part at least, I'm going to miss Aymeric when the story moves away from Ishgard. (hypotheically, If he did fall for the WoL, I wouldn't expect him to survive it. I like Aymeric and I really don't want him to be Hauchefant 2.0. Their backgrounds are already similar.)

. . . tbh I'm still not over the Vault.

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i just realized the cs after you beat sephirot can't be watched at the the in and since i skipped it yesterday i now have no clue what actually happened. can anyone give me a summary pls?

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Oh, you missed a neat one.

Unukalhai faces off Regula, who has aspirations for the Triad, and Krile confronts Unukalhai about his goals and how he views the Warrior of Light.

Edit: Finally finished Alex tonight after work.

Yeah, so, that's creepy. The ability to control time? To calculate the future and move through space-time? That's potentially a much larger issue than Alex sucking up aether.

Also, the literal mind rape.

This isn't going to end well for anyone (except us, really. Actually, thinking of it that way, we're a bit absurd. People's lives are being ruined by Alexander and we're enjoying being rewarded with shiny new equipment. Yeah.).

Fun battles, though.

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Well for my part at least, I'm going to miss Aymeric when the story moves away from Ishgard. (hypotheically, If he did fall for the WoL, I wouldn't expect him to survive it. I like Aymeric and I really don't want him to be Hauchefant 2.0. Their backgrounds are already similar.)

. . . tbh I'm still not over the Vault.

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The WoL seems to refuse his advances, if advances are indeed what they are. I just got the impression from how he wants to have a drink with us and Thancred's observation that he lit up in joy when we said we'd fight alongside him. Or how he said he couldn't thank us enough but darn well intended to try. I might be misreading things, I am very tired.

Speaking of the Fortemps family, this was a surprisingly Emmanellain heavy patch and I really enjoyed seeing him develop more as a character. I felt for the poor guy.

I'll say it... I'm hoping there is a way to save Minfilia, perhaps with Maota's Eye. I really enjoyed this patch, I felt it told a very good story, had some very cool fight. (The Bull of Ala Mhigo must have been terrifying with two arms), it was fun to see Pipin again. A bit disappointed the other city state leaders had no lines.

OK, had time at work to collect my thoughts.

On "The Word of the Mother"

So, Hydaelyn called Minfilia back into Y'shtola's Flow for the sole purpose of pulling her to the Aetherial Sea and having her sacrifice herself? This seems... shady. Anyone who still thinks Hydaelyn's not treating us like tools (or chess pieces) had best wake up. Minfilia was in no danger - what was the purpose of having her get swept up in Flow and keeping her in the Aetherial Sea? Getting a mouthpiece? Hydaelyn never had trouble speaking to us before... and once our Blessing was restored, has not had trouble since. Something's not right...

Her story, while all we have to go on, is also very lacking detail. "Zodiark got power hungry, so I banished him" is... way, way too simplistic to be the whole truth. "Keep fighting and foiling the Ascians"... our mission is not changed. Yet, I cannot ignore our Echo flashback into the Warriors of Darkness' memories, with them being told that killing the Ascians will not change fate.

Damn it... as always, we need more information. But... if Minfilia really is gone, then... I take great issue with that, doubly so given the shady circumstances of her "sacrifice," and while I don't want to doubt the Mothercrystal or turn my blade on her...

Estinien-Nidhogg

Even more apparent that he's a specter / shade / ghost / etc. now than ever. Any normal dragon cannot switch between a human and dragon form - they're just dragons. Estinien-Nidhogg, however, can switch between forms at will, and the Quest Log continues to refer to him primarily as a shade.

Pry the eyes off him... or just destroy them. We can save Estinien... we have to.

Sephirot
-Yes, most / all of his attacks are named from Kabbalah. Including his super, Ain Soph Aur (it's not spelled that way in-game but I forget exactly how it is spelled and I'm too tired to fight the bastard right now. Ein Sof Oohr? I think?). The name "Sephirot" itself is taken from Kabbalah, so it's hardly surprising.

So, can we expect Zurvan (the Demon) and Sophia (the Goddess) to have lots of Zoroastrian / Greek named attacks, respectively?

And I still have Wind-up Nero. At least until he gets too annoying with banging that Mjolnir of his around and I shove him in a dresser drawer like damn Furby. Getting that little toy was worth keeping MGP... it's a nice way to lift spirits, just a little, because Gods know the Warrior of Light could use a hug.

Alexander tomorrow, maybe.

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Anyone else feel like Aymeric is falling in love with us?

Just me?

Okay.

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It's me ok! Don't be getting any ideas!