To Yoshi-P

After reading a lot of posts here, I began to understand why you and your team have so much trouble deciding what the players want. We don't even know what the hell we want. Players argue constantly about the most ridiculous things you can possibly imagine. I hope you can make the game into something really wonderful, but I understand now that listening to the players won't accomplish that (or quite frankly, anything).

At this point, the only thing I can ask is that you try to make a game that YOU would enjoy playing. Try to understand what is and is not enjoyable about the game for yourselves rather than relying on the opinions of people who will never be satisfied.

I can only say that I have a great deal more respect and sympathy that you have to deal with this kind of childish, adolescent fan base. Attempting to implement new things in a game where players complain about everything you 'take away' from them (even though they complain that everything is broken) must be incredibly tiring and trying.

Thank you for all your hard work.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

After reading a lot of posts here, I began to understand why you and your team have so much trouble deciding what the players want. We don't even know what the hell we want. Players argue constantly about the most ridiculous things you can possibly imagine. I hope you can make the game into something really wonderful, but I understand now that listening to the players won't accomplish that (or quite frankly, anything).

At this point, the only thing I can ask is that you try to make a game that YOU would enjoy playing. Try to understand what is and is not enjoyable about the game for yourselves rather than relying on the opinions of people who will never be satisfied.

I can only say that I have a great deal more respect and sympathy that you have to deal with this kind of childish, adolescent fan base. Attempting to implement new things in a game where players complain about everything you 'take away' from them (even though they complain that everything is broken) must be incredibly tiring and trying.

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^ This. This, forever. Glad I'm not the only one to feel this way.

lol i hope you get an answer, becasue that seems to be todays new "In" thing,
be cool & try get an answer from the producer.

Yoshi-P has enough MMO experience to know what the game needs.

The problem is cranking out so many changes and content updates in a short period of time. It takes the devs a while..

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Originally Posted by Laughlyn

lol i hope you get an answer, becasue that seems to be todays new "In" thing,
be cool & try get an answer from the producer.

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I have no expectation of a response from Yoshi-p or anyone on the team, I just hope they read this and understand that there are still players out here more interested in making the game great than complaining about everything SE does or doesn't do.

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Originally Posted by Grit

Yoshi-P has enough MMO experience to know what the game needs.

The problem is cranking out so many changes and content updates in a short period of time. It takes the devs a while..

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Agreed, he already has his mind set on some things (PvP being an event of sorts instead of full world) and for the things he doesn't have still is considering (Jumping) I'm sure he'll make another player poll for that.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

I have no expectation of a response from Yoshi-p or anyone on the team, I just hope they read this and understand that there are still players out here more interested in making the game great than complaining about everything SE does or doesn't do.

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There are many out there whom have given up on SE entirely.

Not because SE can't make great games anymore.

Simply because they loved a certain Final Fantasy in the past, and now if a new game doesn't meet their expectations, it means it is "Fail".

what you should do is wright this again , and post it on the japanes fourms. Because no one from the dev team or yoshi will read it here. it will get pushed to the back where fourms go to die. just use bing or google transulator and type it in english you the transulator to japanese. and then perhaps he will respond or perhaps a lead team member will but dont hold your breath here

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Originally Posted by Grit

The problem is cranking out so many changes and content updates in a short period of time. It takes the devs a while..

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Agreed, I was simply saying that I have a lot more sympathy after seeing what they have to deal with while they're doing it.

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Originally Posted by DarkRain

what you should do is wright this again , and post it on the japanes fourms. Because no one from the dev team or yoshi will read it here. it will get pushed to the back where fourms go to die. just use bing or google transulator and type it in english you the transulator to japanese. and then perhaps he will respond or perhaps a lead team member will but dont hold your breath here

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I would, but I'm fairly sure that any auto-translating service I use would turn at least half of my post into complete gibberish that anyone on the JP forums wouldn't even be able to understand.

In fact I translated my post with babel fish, took the JP text it gave me, and translated it back into english and it gave me this :

After in Yoshi-P reading many posts here, as for me as for you and why as for the player of trouble something which you think that we want, is decision so it started understanding in your team. As for us as for us those which you think that we want, do not know. The player always disputes perhaps you you can imagine concerning the most ridiculous thing. Because as for me what inquires about the player that (or candidly,) does not achieve rather with anything, it is possible really to be able to point to the game to something splendidly, but the fact that I understand is desired. At this point in time, the only thing I may ask is to try the fact that the game which enjoys the fact that you do is made. Rather than it is pleasant concerning the game because of you yourselves, tries and depending on the opinion of the people whom it is not satisfied under any condition what says margin thing that it rubs being found. As for me I you infancy of this type, must handle the basis of the youth fan, when the resonance and it possesses many points extremely just, it is possible to say. The player concerning entirely the ' Way the fact that the game which says dissatisfaction is new is executed, attempt; ' Remove; As for everything there are times when the fact that it has been broken is tried although (the they are dissatisfaction,) trouble, very from those, it becomes. All your hard works thank you.

I know that I have put in my opinion on a number of threads. I know that I would like all sorts of things to be changed to my preferences. I also know that it is all just my opinion and that it doesn't mean that my opinions should be implemented in this game. So, I'm definitely agreeing with the OP. Yoshi-san, listen to what we have to say, but shape the game how you deem fit. Don't be afraid to knock down some of our dumb ideas. I know that people aren't liking the changes and all of the way mmo's are, but times are changing. It is inevitable, whether we want to admit it or not.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

At this point, the only thing I can ask is that you try to make a game that YOU would enjoy playing. Try to understand what is and is not enjoyable about the game for yourselves rather than relying on the opinions of people who will never be satisfied.

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You'd think this is what they would have done from the start like most game developers do, make a game they have fun playing.

I think to myself, when this game was released....were they happy? Were they at SE having the fun they wanted with this game?

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Originally Posted by Draven

You'd think this is what they would have done from the start like most game developers do, make a game they have fun playing.

I think to myself, when this game was released....were they happy? Were they at SE having the fun they wanted with this game?

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SE has said many times that they knew the game was not ready for public release. Sadly, it's not up to the development team to decide when the game is released. Boy I bet the sales department and the higher ups are kicking themselves right now...