Axemanship...what does it do?

I'm making a post on behalf of my brother who plays the game, Considering I don't have the actual skills to compare.

When my brother equips any of the _____manships skills like Axemanship that raise your "Affinity" with class skills he finds that his icon timers get all messed up, all of his skills will start saying they are ready to use when they are still on cooldown.

Does anyone else have this issue with the affinity skills? Have the devs mentioned anything about the issue, I am curious as to why this would possibly happen.

The only thing I've noticed it slightly increases damage/longer effect and reduces cooldown timers.

Example;

You're are now Lancer, you equip Skull Sunder, without the Axemanship, you hit Skull Sunder, around 150 DMG, then you now equip Axemanship, you hit with Skull Sunder , getting around 190-210 DMG

*DMG deal are just example.

Generally equipping a _____manship trait will result in better effect (higher damage for ws, higher healing for heals), and longer duration for buffs (bowmanship for quick stride, swordmanship for sentinel...etc) on skills of its corresponding class, never really compared the difference in CD to see if it's reduced or not.

Do keep in mind that, this only works when you are using skills from another class, being a Marauder and equipping axemanship does not result in higher damage or duration of any Marauder skills as far as I can see.

See the issue is that my brother would equip the pugalist skill when playing his lancer.

His second wind now has a shorter recast timer, but actually doesn't cool off any faster than normal. Whats the normal cool down? Let's say it was 60 seconds, when he uses it his timer will instead say 45 and when it ticks down the icon will highlight as if he could use it again. Try as he may he still can't use it until the normal cooldown is up despite his action bar showing second wind available to use for well over 10 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

See the issue is that my brother would equip the pugalist skill when playing his lancer.

His second wind now has a shorter recast timer, but actually doesn't cool off any faster than normal. Whats the normal cool down? Let's say it was 60 seconds, when he uses it his timer will instead say 45 and when it ticks down the icon will highlight as if he could use it again. Try as he may he still can't use it until the normal cooldown is up despite his action bar showing second wind available to use for well over 10 seconds.

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that sound more like a glitch.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

See the issue is that my brother would equip the pugalist skill when playing his lancer.

His second wind now has a shorter recast timer, but actually doesn't cool off any faster than normal. Whats the normal cool down? Let's say it was 60 seconds, when he uses it his timer will instead say 45 and when it ticks down the icon will highlight as if he could use it again. Try as he may he still can't use it until the normal cooldown is up despite his action bar showing second wind available to use for well over 10 seconds.

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Oh wow >.>

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Originally Posted by Jynx

See the issue is that my brother would equip the pugalist skill when playing his lancer.

His second wind now has a shorter recast timer, but actually doesn't cool off any faster than normal. Whats the normal cool down? Let's say it was 60 seconds, when he uses it his timer will instead say 45 and when it ticks down the icon will highlight as if he could use it again. Try as he may he still can't use it until the normal cooldown is up despite his action bar showing second wind available to use for well over 10 seconds.

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That probably has nothing to with the _manship traits actually. Its an issue that I believe is due to memory leakage (so I've heard) and happens to a lot of people. Whenever I first start XIV my timers are fine but over hours of playtime they become less and less accurate. Buffs/debuffs will also have incorrect timers and its just a whole bunch of mess. I hope 2.0's new servers fix this issue entirely.

You should have your brother manually time the recast with a stopwatch. Although I don't think the manship traits necessarily have to alter recast, they can also alter potency or both. I know for Provoke with swordsmanship the recast is knocked down several seconds and the potency of the action is increased aswell.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

See the issue is that my brother would equip the pugalist skill when playing his lancer.

His second wind now has a shorter recast timer, but actually doesn't cool off any faster than normal. Whats the normal cool down? Let's say it was 60 seconds, when he uses it his timer will instead say 45 and when it ticks down the icon will highlight as if he could use it again. Try as he may he still can't use it until the normal cooldown is up despite his action bar showing second wind available to use for well over 10 seconds.

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After being logged in the game for extended periods of time all your timers will 'glitch' out and be off by several seconds. It's very annoying. Restarting the client (shutting it all the way down not just logging out) will fix your timers.

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Originally Posted by Aratharn

After being logged in the game for extended periods of time all your timers will 'glitch' out and be off by several seconds. It's very annoying. Restarting the client (shutting it all the way down not just logging out) will fix your timers.

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Interesting I'll see what that does for him, IIRC we have tried to restart before but I'll double check before going to the tech forums.

As others have said the problem sounds like a typical bugg which has become alot more common after 1.19 and has nothing to do with affinity traits such as axemanship.

Cooldown timers will glitch and show shorter cooldowns then when the skills will actualy be ready to use again, which creates both confusion and frustration.

The only known solution is to completely restart the game, how it happends I don't know.
Sometimes it can happen in middle of a leve when I've playing for a few hours, other times it can happen just minutes after being logged on.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I'm making a post on behalf of my brother who plays the game, Considering I don't have the actual skills to compare.

When my brother equips any of the _____manships skills like Axemanship that raise your "Affinity" with class skills he finds that his icon timers get all messed up, all of his skills will start saying they are ready to use when they are still on cooldown.

Does anyone else have this issue with the affinity skills? Have the devs mentioned anything about the issue, I am curious as to why this would possibly happen.

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Axemanship increases Axe affinity by 10.

When playing as a class you have 100 Affinity in that class, when you sub an ability from another class (not of the weapon you have equipped) your affinity is only 75. With an affinity trait this increases to 85. This means you are 85% rather than 75% effective with that ability.

For example Ferocity II/Blindside II/Sentinel/Invigorate II/Keen Flurry/Cadence all have 60 second timers.

When you equip them with another class their timer will be 1:15.
When you equip them with another class and have an affinity trait their cooldown timer will be 1:05.

The cooldown is made shorter, the duration (if a buff like Murderous Intent) is longer, and the effect whatever it may be is more powerful.

Equipping an affinity increasing ability of the class you are currently playing does nothing as your affinity is already at 100 and cannot be increased any further.

Ignore the other posters on this thread who do not understand the affinity system the display bug for timers has nothing to do with this trait. Affinity traits absolutely work...

I thought that was how they worked, but it just seems something is wrong with my brothers timers (All of them) when he uses these skills on his character.

I'll get him to submit a GM report or something because it only happens when he has them equiped (Restart or not)