concealed nodes

Is there any rhyme or reason why some of the concealed nodes pop up SO FAR away? This seems to be a botanist thing, in my limited experience so far. Why is this? Why do they pop up so far away that even your little 'find the nearest node' will give you the next group of two nodes rather than the concealed one?

It makes no sense. I just wasted a favor trying to find the freakin' concealed node. it was soooooo far away. >.<'

I hate favor gathering thus far. T.T

Am I weird to find Favors fun?! Planning and speed. It all gives me a rush! Making a little mini game.

So, put up your Way Markers so you won't loose your way.

Prep node to final hit. Prepare 4 nodes.

Pop that Favor! Sprint, fly, and don't loose your direction.

When concealed node pops, always pops next to you. Only hit rare. Skip the clusters.

Good Luck!

BTN is annoying -- all the MIN ones pop in close locations, and have very minimal mobs to dodge. But BTN... ugh. SoC Birch Log option, conceal nodes so far away. Churning Mists, the one up on the ledge. Hinterlands all the stupid crawlers, etc

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Originally Posted by Astrelle_hyperion

BTN is annoying -- all the MIN ones pop in close locations, and have very minimal mobs to dodge. But BTN... ugh. SoC Birch Log option, conceal nodes so far away. Churning Mists, the one up on the ledge. Hinterlands all the stupid crawlers, etc

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I know! I'm trying around 22, 13-ish area in sea of clouds for btn. It seemed better than the place with the birch logs but there are mobs and the concealed nodes pop up so far away. >.>; It's so weird how BTN and MIN are so different. They're essentially the same thing but MIN is so much easier in so many ways.

I was about to say "they're always nearby for me" but I realized I've never done a BTN one... are they really that far away from the nodes? That's awful D:

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

I was about to say "they're always nearby for me" but I realized I've never done a BTN one... are they really that far away from the nodes? That's awful D:

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Yeah. It's like you can't even use Lay of the Land because they tend to be farther away from the two you're at then the next group of two. You'll just get redirected to the next two nodes. >.>; BTN nodes are already farther away than MIN ones. Why do they have us having to cross half the freakin' map to get to the concealed ones? BTN concealed ones tend to only get like 2 of the rares per favor used. Biggest part of that is because the distances are so much bigger for BTN.

I hear we're gar. one node for each favor in the next patch. That's probably solely for BTN (though they won't admit that.)

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Originally Posted by Alisi

I hear we're gar. one node for each favor in the next patch. That's probably solely for BTN (though they won't admit that.)

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That was 3.1 IIRC. It was stated in the patch notes.

But it means you are guaranteed 5 hand ins per Red Gathering Token (seeing as you get 5 Favors per Token).

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Originally Posted by Amarante

Am I weird to find Favors fun?! Planning and speed. It all gives me a rush! Making a little mini game.

So, put up your Way Markers so you won't loose your way.

Prep node to final hit. Prepare 4 nodes.

Pop that Favor! Sprint, fly, and don't loose your direction.

When concealed node pops, always pops next to you. Only hit rare. Skip the clusters.

Good Luck!

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Can you please repeat that in a way that's more clearly stated?

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Originally Posted by Callback

Can you please repeat that in a way that's more clearly stated?

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Before favors start with depleting 4 nodes to one hit (not all six or they reset).
Set up flags and stuff so you know where the nodes are (they always appear in the same spots so I don't do this but hey if you need to)
Consume favor, sprint and fly between the nodes. Those first four depleted should go first,
Once you pop a concealed node just get the rare favor items, you don't have to deplete the concealed node.
Good luck!


...is what she was saying

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Originally Posted by Callback

Can you please repeat that in a way that's more clearly stated?

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Fly to node area. Pick two of the pairs. Hit both members of both pairs so that you are 1 away from completely depleting the node. Activate the Favor, clear those 4 nodes first, then work on clearing the third pair and going in the cycle.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

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Still prolly because of BTN. Some favors I only got one or two concealed nodes. >.>;

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Originally Posted by Callback

Can you please repeat that in a way that's more clearly stated?

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I do it like this:

1) There's usually one group of two that's farther away that then others. I go and put a flag there. I choose which route I'm going to go and the use '/waymark' to put them on the highest viable point that's around them. This makes it so you can just look around you and go. The flag thing was something I developed in Churning Mists with the botanist. I haven't really needed it for mining but I just keep it up.
2) Go and exhaust the first two sets of nodes until there is one left in each.
3) start favor and go at it. The concealed nodes stay up, even after the favor is finished, so you can go back and collect the clusters if you wish.

Exhausting the first 4 is just a time saver. /shrug Sometimes if felt useless.

For comparison with miner -- only one? concealed node that I can think of requires flying to get to after popping in (Sea of Clouds), and only one aggro mob (Hinterlnads). For BTN all three of the Birch Logs SoCs require flying elevation/long distance, and one of the Churning Mists. One of the CWH is far enough removed to be obnoxious and right next to a mob. Hinterlands is reasonable full of aggro, Forelands is probably the best of the btn ones...

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Originally Posted by Alisi

I hate favor gathering thus far. T.T

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thats why i usally let ppl gathering it for me ^^ always looking for ppl who do it for me =)
because i am lazy for, if you count you get 9 red scripts per week and each give you 5x 5 min Favor thats makes 3:45 h without counting the prepare time of the node and also didnt count the time you need each week to collect the red scripts ^^

regards small hobbit =)

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Originally Posted by Astrelle_hyperion

For BTN all three of the Birch Logs SoCs require flying elevation/long distance

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I never run favors on those nodes, I use the other 6 L60 nodes in Sea of Clouds, over at (21-13) by the Groundskeepers.
Usually my wife rides shotgun (taking out the groundskeepers) while I run the nodes.

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

I never run favors on those nodes, I use the other 6 L60 nodes in Sea of Clouds, over at (21-13) by the Groundskeepers.
Usually my wife rides shotgun (taking out the groundskeepers) while I run the nodes.

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Yeah, that's where I seemed to have more luck too. It's still a painful area. That one, single group of nodes that spawns the only concealed node that's near the normal nodes has that stupid Groundkeeper sitting on it. It's sad that the emph node that spawns is closer to the nodes than the spot where that shared concealed node spawns.

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

Usually my wife rides shotgun (taking out the groundskeepers) while I run the nodes.

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hahahhaha xD

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Originally Posted by Amarante

Am I weird to find Favors fun?! Planning and speed. It all gives me a rush! Making a little mini game.

So, put up your Way Markers so you won't loose your way.

Prep node to final hit. Prepare 4 nodes.

Pop that Favor! Sprint, fly, and don't loose your direction.

When concealed node pops, always pops next to you. Only hit rare. Skip the clusters.

Good Luck!

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Im glad i wasnt the only one that learned how to master favors. Hi5

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Originally Posted by SmallHobbit

thats why i usally let ppl gathering it for me ^^ always looking for ppl who do it for me =)

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You have a good system going! Once I get more of my gear crafted, I'm probably going to lean that way too. I'm getting there! Just made mah 170 LW HQ offhand. /very proud XD!!

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Originally Posted by Morzy

Im glad i wasnt the only one that learned how to master favors. Hi5

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Mind numbing and hard aren't the same thing. They aren't hard to master. They are just a drag at times. But I'm the kind of gatherer who likes to make tons of mini-breaks to do other things while gathering. XD I generally stealth or afk in the air every round or two. You can't do that with a favor going.

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Originally Posted by Alisi

Mind numbing and hard aren't the same thing. They aren't hard to master. They are just a drag at times. But I'm the kind of gatherer who likes to make tons of mini-breaks to do other things while gathering. XD I generally stealth or afk in the air every round or two. You can't do that with a favor going.

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No they aren't, lol. I just remember trying to explain prepping nodes(or priming, as I first called it) to some friends and they didn't understand at all. With me I'll probably reach a goal like 20 bladeleaf or 30 then move on for the time being. I don't think favors are bad at first, just after 10 in a row when it becomes a bother =_=

maybe it's a stupid question but....
...with the new mats dropped in istances it's useful farming favour?

Depends, supply is going to explode. That should drive the price down. However in the first week or two it likely won't move too much. If the new crafted raid gear needs them it might peak a bit before falling. At least that's my take...

http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-he...e-tsukino.157/

this is a really good guide for all the gathering favors