3.2 180>170?

I noticed a liveletter remark that mentioned "all equipment will be meldable."

If this includes 180 red scrip gear, that would render 170 crafted gear obsolete.

Thoughts?

The 170 crafted gear is a filler tier. It helps only to give the crafter more control which translates into more collectability. The cheapest item if I can recall is like 350 red scrips, so getting the ilv180 is going to take some time. At least, this is my opinion from observation. Anyone who has the gear might know more by experience.

I think that might mean all equipment craftable from 3.2 onwards and not the older recipes. I could be wrong though. Just curious because I don't know... If you were to be full 180 left side.. Or full 170 pentamelded left side, what's the difference in Craftmanship/Control and CP assuming optimal melds and perfect right side for both?

I heard the 180 gear is the cheap way to go since you don't need materia and that 170 penta is the hard core Grundy tier although red Scrips seem Grindy enough. I don't know either way, I only have Weaver at 60, Cul at 56 and everything else at 51/52

The actual live letter slide (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...3&d=1455093098) says:
"The ability to meld materia will be expanded to various types of equipment." instead of being applied to all equipment.

It's unlikely that the i180 will become meldable, as that would go against the entire point of having i170 meldable/i180 unmeldable gear.

Lol if only I could do the math for it off the top of my head. I think the Arilaya tools might help with a cross comparison between the two, one melded and the other not.

Quick random thought: What's a crafter's primary stat vs secondary stat? Are we only going to be able to meld one craftsmanship materia? Or are all three unlimited and not affected by the DoW/DoM materia changes?

I believe that when they say "all equipment will be meldable", they're specifically talking about all new equipment, as in only items introduced in 3.2 and beyond.

Further, the word "all" might be a bit of an oversight. In other places the devs have specified "raid and tomestone gear", which leads me to believe that it's a change only with respect to combat classes, and that DoH/DoL gear will be largely unaffected.

Finally, even if it does turn out to be applicable to crafting gear, and does turn out to be retroactive, they've also said that overmelding won't be allowed on anything but crafted gear, so in most cases the i180 gear would still turn out to be weaker than i170 gear, unless you stuffed it full of Tier V materia.

The meld-able "raid" gear (blue gear effectively) will get meld slots but these are *only* for secondary stats, like crit or acc & over melding past these slots won't be possible. Or at least that's my understanding. We will know for certain in a few weeks.

They said all in reference to battle gear. I highly doubt they're going to add slots to the 180 gear.

And even if they did, that stuff takes literally 10 times as many scrips as the crafted versions do, so whatever imo.

is this really matter? i belive they will not make any new add recipe harder than the currently masterbook III, 2 Star craft.
which means you will not really need this gear anyway, i am able to make easily every 2 star craft HQ with only ilvl 150/140 gear by melding only lvl 3 materia on it, everything more is just a nice to have but not needed!
this is an example on the gear and melds, cheap and allows by using Baked Onion Soup to do 2 star crafts HQ, well even if you have 10 less control, you can add the FC buff to reach the cap.

regards small hobbit =)

As some already said it it is only tombstone gear that will be meldable
It dors concern crafting gear

Plus the 180 might look good or stronger than the 170
But there is a CP loss... And unnecessary craftmanship on many piece

As i keep telling my fc, 180 do not worth buying them
Especially for the huge price
26 red script token for the tool...
Which is around 400 comp
So 80 crafted 2* comp
Which mean more or less 20 equipment (main or off-hand... Torso...)

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Like small hobbit said... The 150 gear melded is enough to craft 2* with everyclass
And I personnally add NQ Fisher stew because i have around 400cp and the craftmanship requirement

The combat gear(be it raid drop, tome bought or crafted) will have one or more slots for materia - this are the only slots MAIN STAT materia will be meldable in, overmelding will only allow secondary stats.

Last I checked there was no changes to crafter/gatherer gears and materia handling other then that tier IV and V materia will be easier to obtain now.

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Originally Posted by Unittj

Quick random thought: What's a crafter's primary stat vs secondary stat? Are we only going to be able to meld one craftsmanship materia? Or are all three unlimited and not affected by the DoW/DoM materia changes?

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There has been no primary stat (VIT/STR/DEX/INT/MND) for DoL/DoH since ARR came out.

Each slot has a different cap on each stat, based on ilvl. There are groups with the same caps at the same ilvl:

1. Mainhand
2. Offhand
3. Body
4. Head/Hands/Belt/Legs/Feet
5. Neck/Ear/Wrist
6. Ring

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Originally Posted by Callback

I noticed a liveletter remark that mentioned "all equipment will be meldable."

If this includes 180 red scrip gear, that would render 170 crafted gear obsolete.

Thoughts?

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It would not matter as they have stated that you will not be able to over meld said gear, so even if we was able to meld i180 stuff it still will fall short with V. But I would be very upset if that was the case.