What If...Antitower & Alexander

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Yes we have sorry.

The antitower has no relation whatsoever with Alexander.

Its a dungeon of the Main Scenario.

What we dont know is where is the entrance to this dungeon.

well that stone pillar idyllshire i built on looks like a reversed tower.
though it's probably one of those occasions where we end up relying on cid ex machina and his airship to bring us to the actual location...

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Originally Posted by DE-Roxas

We had that Lake empty before they implemented Alexander right?

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Wrong. Alexander appeared right after the credits in the ending of 3.0 main scenario. Even before it got implented. Only before you finish the quest "Into the sky" the lake is empty.

I think I read somewhere that the thing that was under the lake before Alexander appeared was a defense mechanism the Sharlayans built, and it was renovated to become Alexander.

I think the Antitower however is the facility that was lost with the Isle of Val, since it is a facility dedicated to researching about the Mothercrystal, and that it was the same goal as the students of Baldesion have. So it's not a far stretch that the Antitower is the one that disappeared with the Isle of Val.

EDIT: I've read the description about the Antitower and it's actually somewhere originating in the Hinterlands...well before. Still, My first statement might be correct.

It might have been a part of Idyllshire before, but magically disappeared? Idyllshire had broken roads that suspiciously lead to nowhere.

Super easy answer guys. Matoya's magiks. Thats the entrance.

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Originally Posted by DE-Roxas

(Btw this is not Alexander's Head, its literally just a ruin or a house or something, maybe an entrance to sth.)

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Uh, actually that "island/house" in the barrier is the top of Alexander's corroded head covered in sand. Alexander's body is just dormant and submerged prior to the HW main story completion. The Goblins just reactivated him. The Primal's mechanical body was always there and the summoning kinda reformated it. You can even see this happen in cutscene #14 of the level 60 "Heavensward" Quest in the Unending Journey.

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Originally Posted by DE-Roxas

Oh okay, was that confirmed? I didn't knew that if it was, then nvm :D

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You can see the cutscene in the Unending Journey. It even pans to focus on the white structure before Aether coalesces and transforms it into Alexanders head, before Alex raises and slams his arm down onto the shore.

As for being dormant, it is mentioned in the Alexander story that Alexander was originally a Sharlayan project to create a mobile castle for intellectuals. An unknown party previously activated him about 3 years in the past but he was quickly shut down, and the Illuminati reactivated him for themselves after you beat the KotR.

I'm hoping the Antitower is going to be on that outcrop area in the NE section of Hinterlands that you can only get to by flying.

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Originally Posted by LionFranco

I'm hoping the Antitower is going to be on that outcrop area in the NE section of Hinterlands that you can only get to by flying.

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If the entrance is truly in Hinterlands, then I'd have placed it around The Path of Conviction/The Asulon.

I imagine it'll be in Idyllshire though, similar to how the entrance to the Aery is in Ishgard.

So, Hinterlands seems to be getting some new land opened up. Stone, Sky, Sea will had a structure at 36X17Y, which is entirely new...

http://i.imgur.com/DPqM8bY.jpg

Stone, Sky, Sea is instanced though, so that area has to have some other purpose, right? Clearly Sharalyan structures there, Antitower could be located there. The area on that mini-map is a lot bigger than what I'd expect for just Stone, Sky, Sea...

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Originally Posted by DE-Roxas

Still hoping to at least see something like an entrance, a feeling of place would be missing even if its most likely gonna be like that.

Another thought I'd had, what about Silvertear Lake? We know that its a sharlayan building, but since its a connection to Hydaelyn I wondered.
Wasn't Silvertear Lake meant to have some major connection to Hydaelyn? Because Midgarsomr was Guarding it. THE Dragon of all dragons.
If I didnt screwed up listening to the story again :D Midgarsormr is most likely on Hydaelyns Side, not?
So would it be possible the sharlayans built it there?

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Why it has to be silvertear lake? Its not even on the HW areas. Most logical case is that it will be with Matoya's magiks

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Why it has to be silvertear lake? Its not even on the HW areas. Most logical case is that it will be with Matoya's magiks

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the devs say we would learn what middy was guarding in Silvertear Lake sometime this expansion? So I'm assuming that eventually we'll end up going there.

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Originally Posted by Rhodkr

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the devs say we would learn what middy was guarding in Silvertear Lake sometime this expansion? So I'm assuming that eventually we'll end up going there.

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we will, but not for now. Also we arent sure how we will learn this.

The anti tower's theme sounds like a remix of the hinterlands so maybe we'll go beneat through that little cave near alex (the small ledge that leads into a cave along the river)

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Originally Posted by Phyllo

The anti tower's theme sounds like a remix of the hinterlands so maybe we'll go beneat through that little cave near alex (the small ledge that leads into a cave along the river)

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I think is a emix of Idyllshire's theme. Pay a close attention and you see the similarities.

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Originally Posted by DE-Roxas

which means you cannot abandon my thought. Its possible.
And I didnt said it "have to be" Silvertear Lake. It was only a thought since it have its connection to Hydaelyn.

And im 100% sure not everything regarding Mainstory will play in Addon Area (Like rescue Raubahn...) EDIT: That was Halatali in Thanalan btw in case you wont remember so thats nonsense

So have you any evidence that we not ending up Silvertear Lake?:p who said the sharlayans couldnt travel to Mor Dhona.
And what would be more fitting, a connection to Hydaelyn through Silvertear Lake :p

EDIT: But i have to say in the trailer, the rocks uppon the antitower looking very dravanian-ish

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A dungeon and an solo instance are 2 different things.

If its an instance, then yes is possible we should go there someday.

I always lump in idyll and hinterlands together but yes I meant idyllshire' theme, it's more easily noticeable when listening to the night version btw.

I've been thinking on this and realized the connection. Both names start with "A" end with "R" and have nine letters. If you take the name "Alexander" and swap out the letters in the middle for different ones you get "Antitower." Therefore, the two are the same.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I've been thinking on this and realized the connection. Both names start with "A" end with "R" and have nine letters. If you take the name "Alexander" and swap out the letters in the middle for different ones you get "Antitower." Therefore, the two are the same.

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LOL ?????

You miss the "I" , the "O", the "W", the double "T", and there is one less "E".

I hope you arent trolling :/

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

You miss the "I" , the "O", the "W", the double "T", and there is one less "E".

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I didn't miss any letters. As I said if you take the "lexande" out of "Alexander" and swap them out for the letters "ntitowe" in that order, then "Alexander" becomes "Antitower." It all makes perfect sense. In the same way that if you just change the plot, setting, characters, and title, the Star Wars movies are identical to the Human Centipede movies.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I didn't miss any letters. As I said if you take the "lexande" out of "Alexander" and swap them out for the letters "ntitowe" in that order, then "Alexander" becomes "Antitower." It all makes perfect sense. In the same way that if you just change the plot, setting, characters, and title, the Star Wars movies are identical to the Human Centipede movies.

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what are you sainf its really confusing. But well anyway, it was made clear already that alexander has no relation at all with antitower

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

what are you sainf its really confusing. But well anyway, it was made clear already that alexander has no relation at all with antitower

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Psst, try reading it in the voice of Amanda Seyfried's character in Mean Girls and you'll get the joke.

The Antitower is the companion structure of the Uncletower (to be revealed in a later patch).