ORDER 66 AND ONWARD (WARNING MAY CONTENT MSQ SPOILERS!)

Ok so!...had a dumb thought but anyone else feel like the scions are reliving the jedi events from star wars?! Odd that it only came to me after finishing up current 3.2 MSQ content. The so called army to aid them in defense of eorzea and to kinda help take the load of the warrior of light the Crystal Braves...who we all thought to be our

allies Pre-HSW and kinda grow to like working with.

When in reality they were working for someone else from behind the scenes (lolorito aka sith lord/teledji the apperentice) then when following steps of faith they desided the scions were no longer needed and desided to get rid of them aka Order 66 just like star wars and others that are loyal to the scions.

Now i notice that we are in a way going through episodes 4 to 6 finding lost allies and trying to make new ones while hiding from the crystal braves and others Ascians. But now that teledji is dead (thank you raubahn:D) and Lolorito is playing nice for the time being were finally making progress ishgard rejoining the eorzean alliance and such but now i feel like were moving into episode 7 in a way too with nidhogg returning and all anyon else feel like this? your thoughts. And thanks for reading my rant

Lots of stories have similar concepts, like betrayal, revenge, and being the underdog. You can find parallels like this between almost any story ever told. I wouldn't read into it too much.

I hope not because

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The jedi and rebel alliance were actually the bad guys in that whole situation and I hope we are not the bad guys in the end.

It's true, take a good look at the story. They are militant terrorists who effectively collapsed the economy of the galaxy, which is conveniently dismissed in episode 7 so there could be an episode 7. You can say what you want about the sith and the emporer and the dark side blah blah blah, but the only reason ppl believe the Jedi are good is because they use the 'light' side of the force and are depicted to be sympathetic. Luke, Han and the whole lot are nothing more than common terrorists you are fooled into sympathizing with. A sort of star wars Stockholm syndrome. The evidence is out there, take a good look at some of it.


/ducks behind an overturned table for cover

May the force be with you,Warrior of Light.

Well you know that we're going to have to encounter the First Order in FFXIV eventually. #thekoboldsawaken

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Huh, never noticed really. Anyways yeah I figured the WoL were kinda a******ish anyway since no one ever sympathized and settled agreements with the angry beast tribes to begin with. "blah blah, touched by primals BLAH". Yeah, well the primal had to be summoned first for them to be touched by them?? Obviously no one wanted to help them and therefore scions just ask for the trouble. Don't even want to talk about the bias eorzeans that just hate beastkin and just make more of them summon primals again. -_-

You HAVE done the beastmen quests, didn't you?

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You HAVE done the beastmen quests, didn't you?

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I'm talking about the ones who summoned the primal's in the first place. Why do you think some of the beast tribe members summon primals, because people mess with them giving them little to no choice.

And besides, the beast tribe quests don't even mention these incidents or completely ignore them. Its like we're in a different timeline to them.

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Would not be surprised if the "Truth" 2.X and 3.X storyline being hinting is that Hydaelyn is actually a evil Elder Primal and that she is only pretended to be a Goody Goddess bring hope to the People of the World as a means to make people not realise she is secretly using the Warrior of Light to build up the Aether of the World so she can consume all Aether in the world at once which would result in Hydaelyn consuming all life in the world.

But that is all just crazy hypothesis running around. Hydaelyn cannot be secretly a Evil Elder Primal that have been using the Warrior of Light to eliminate any possble rival that would reduce the amount of Aether in the world and anyone or thing that would stop her plans to consume all life in the world....

Or is she....
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Would not be surprised ...

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Some times, things are really what they seem to be.

Except for those Ascians --- I really don't know what to think about them yet.




"Who ... what are you?" - some archbishop or other that one time

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I'm talking about the ones who summoned the primal's in the first place. Why do you think some of the beast tribe members summon primals, because people mess with them giving them little to no choice.

And besides, the beast tribe quests don't even mention these incidents or completely ignore them. Its like we're in a different timeline to them.

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Not true either. Some do reference your tussles with the primals and are glad to have you help them to prevent further summoning and you're well known with the Vanu Vanu as the one who slayed Bismarck. Each beast tribe have their reasons for having beef with the spoken races, but in the end, we know the Ascians are the ones that gave the beast tribes the power to summon primals.

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I hope not because

--- this is really gonna get me hate ---

The jedi and rebel alliance were actually the bad guys in that whole situation and I hope we are not the bad guys in the end.

It's true, take a good look at the story. They are militant terrorists who effectively collapsed the economy of the galaxy, which is conveniently dismissed in episode 7 so there could be an episode 7. You can say what you want about the sith and the emporer and the dark side blah blah blah, but the only reason ppl believe the Jedi are good is because they use the 'light' side of the force and are depicted to be sympathetic. Luke, Han and the whole lot are nothing more than common terrorists you are fooled into sympathizing with. A sort of star wars Stockholm syndrome. The evidence is out there, take a good look at some of it.


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This is why you shouldn't listen to the pseudo-intellectuals of Film Theory and other tripe, kids. It might be they're seen as good guys because they don't choke their own soldiers out of annoyance, blow up populated planets to make a point, or strongarm what populaces they don't slaughter into doing what they want. Also, the Death Star was built with slave labor, not good old economy-enhancing jobs. I know it's really popular to be edgy and say that the obviously evil people were the good guys, but it really doesn't work for SW.

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This is why you shouldn't listen to the pseudo-intellectuals of Film Theory and other tripe, kids. It might be they're seen as good guys because they don't choke their own soldiers out of annoyance, blow up populated planets to make a point, or strongarm what populaces they don't slaughter into doing what they want. Also, the Death Star was built with slave labor, not good old economy-enhancing jobs. I know it's really popular to be edgy and say that the obviously evil people were the good guys, but it really doesn't work for SW.

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lol there are way more than just Film Theory out in the shady corners of the internet about this, which is just dumbed down to make it easier to understand. As someone who does this sort of thing for a living (deconstruction and theory of books and film), works way to well for SW.

But all terrorist groups have their supporters who see them as a shining example though, so don't feel bad.

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lol there are way more than just Film Theory out in the shady corners of the internet about this, which is just dumbed down to make it easier to understand. As someone who does this sort of thing for a living (deconstruction and theory of books and film), works way to well for SW.

But all terrorist groups have their supporters who see them as a shining example though, so don't feel bad.

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Okay...since you love using that word so much, let me be the bearer of bad news and inform you that the rebels are, by definition, not terrorists. Here is the definition of terrorism. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/terrorism Nothing the rebels did in these movies matches that description. I also notice you make no effort to argue against my description of the empire's actions.

I do find it interesting that despite supposedly being so knowledgeable about this topic, you don't offer any kind of counter-argument. Oh, and for the record, it's "too well".

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I hope not because

--- this is really gonna get me hate ---

The jedi and rebel alliance were actually the bad guys in that whole situation and I hope we are not the bad guys in the end.

It's true, take a good look at the story. They are militant terrorists who effectively collapsed the economy of the galaxy, which is conveniently dismissed in episode 7 so there could be an episode 7. You can say what you want about the sith and the emporer and the dark side blah blah blah, but the only reason ppl believe the Jedi are good is because they use the 'light' side of the force and are depicted to be sympathetic. Luke, Han and the whole lot are nothing more than common terrorists you are fooled into sympathizing with. A sort of star wars Stockholm syndrome. The evidence is out there, take a good look at some of it.


/ducks behind an overturned table for cover

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He's a supporter of the empire Blast him! lol

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Not true either. Some do reference your tussles with the primals and are glad to have you help them to prevent further summoning and you're well known with the Vanu Vanu as the one who slayed Bismarck. Each beast tribe have their reasons for having beef with the spoken races, but in the end, we know the Ascians are the ones that gave the beast tribes the power to summon primals.

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Well call me Rosemary. I missed some bit of info about the Acsians doing that somewhere. Welp, back to he lore boards :/

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

I hope not because

--- this is really gonna get me hate ---

The jedi and rebel alliance were actually the bad guys in that whole situation and I hope we are not the bad guys in the end.

It's true, take a good look at the story. They are militant terrorists who effectively collapsed the economy of the galaxy, which is conveniently dismissed in episode 7 so there could be an episode 7. You can say what you want about the sith and the emporer and the dark side blah blah blah, but the only reason ppl believe the Jedi are good is because they use the 'light' side of the force and are depicted to be sympathetic. Luke, Han and the whole lot are nothing more than common terrorists you are fooled into sympathizing with. A sort of star wars Stockholm syndrome. The evidence is out there, take a good look at some of it.


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Yea Someone saw Mat Pat's Film Theory video on The Deathstar.

But in a way I agree that the Old Jedi Order were bad (Which if my theory is correct with the 1st Umbral Era, The First Warriors of Light actually started this conflict)

They were all about "Restoring Balance to the Force" when it was 10,000 Jedi Knights vs 2 Sith Lords and then wondered WTF happened when they all got taken down by "The Chosen One".

Well, has anyone consider that Elidibus is our Darth Vader, and that we are going to end up discovering that this "Truth" he mentioned in 2.1 is that "Restoring Balance" between light and darkness actually means we HAVE to let him win and awaken Zodiark to force Hydaelyn's light into equilibrium against Zodiark's Darkness so neither can eradicate the other?