We should be able to see who's giving us the commendation ?

The Duty Finder would be better with this option system. So I would always give a commendation to the person that gaves me one too.

Also should be a way to give a friend commendation. When you do the content with friends or LS/ fc.









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Originally Posted by The_Greatest_Evil

So I would always give a commendation to the person that gaves me one too.

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I think that is precisely why they don't show who did it.

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Originally Posted by The_Greatest_Evil

Also should be a way to give a friend commendation. When you do the content with friends or LS/ fc.

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No. Then people would spam instances and trade comms thus making the system, achievements, and rewards meaningless. They're meant to foster being a better player in both skill and how you act towards other players.

Why do you need to see who gave you a commendation? So that you can run to the forums to complain how person so and so didn't give you a commendation you thought you deserved? And as others have said, enabling friends to comm each other would destroy the point behind the system in the first place.

You forgot to add being able to give yourself a commendation.

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Originally Posted by The_Greatest_Evil

So I would always give a commendation to the person that gaves me one too.

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Isn't the idea to give commendations to the player, that actually - in our own opinion - did quite the good job? I can't see any need to know, who just gave the commendation. Except you're an a*shole and want to bitch around, 'cause people these days love bitchin' around.. o.o

If there were a change to be made, it should be the possibility to give out more than 1 commendation. I hate having an awesome group and have to decide which one gets the commendation ;^;

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

You forgot to add being able to give yourself a commendation.

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I liked your idea.

No, definitely not, under any circumstances. I can see the grimy results in PF now "Tank willing to do 10 dungeon runs provided you give me all comms".

Yuck. Just no.

no thanks.

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Originally Posted by The_Greatest_Evil

I liked your idea.

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Why am I not surprised.

No, sorry.

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Originally Posted by The_Greatest_Evil

The Duty Finder would be better with this option system. So I would always give a commendation to the person that gaves me one too.

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How would this work? You're not able to see your comms until after you leave the duty.

No, if you want comms then earn them. Git gud, play your job well and stand out or do something to impress me such as saving the party from a wipe.

Qued into A4 Normal the other day as a tank and we had a brand new summoner. Both healers died to dolls and the summoner managed to get them up including one other dps who has died. Guess who got all the comms that run.

Don't be bad and play well, that's how you get comms.

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Originally Posted by ReddAxel

Don't be bad and play well, that's how you get comms.

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We had a keeper of the lake the other day that I was healing. I derped and died during the second add. The tank and one DPS managed to get the add down before dying. An insane little Lala machinist was the second DPS and he solo'd Midgardsormr down the last 5% - preventing us from having to redo the fight from scratch. Guess who got all the comms?

If everyone in your party performed well, but not particularly outstanding, the etiquette as it was established early on was tank coms healer, healer coms tank, and DPS com each other. (All bets are off if someone is clearly bad - or if someone pulls a win out of their butt like that machinist did.)

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Originally Posted by The_Greatest_Evil

The Duty Finder would be better with this option system. So I would always give a commendation to the person that gaves me one too.

Also should be a way to give a friend commendation. When you do the content with friends or LS/ fc.

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lol..... what? Yes, let's trade 'commendations' like hockey cards. That doesn't entirely derail the foundation of the very system itself or anything.

Commendations need improvements, but I couldn't care less who gives them. Given how it works (you receive them after leaving the instance) what does it even matter? Most of the time you're never going to meet those people again, you're certainly not going to be able to "trade" commendations like that.

One thing we really need is a "Commend All" option, because some times you get a really great party, and everyone is great, and you can't commend everyone, despite them all deserving it... Might knock the whole "Give Tank/Healer Commendation" mentality off the top spot...

Nope, keep it the way it is. Leaving a commendation is already an optional experience. The only improvement I could see happening is being able to leave commendations to multiple players.

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Originally Posted by Meraii

I think that is precisely why they don't show who did it.

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Nailed it, nuff said

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Originally Posted by Nalien

One thing we really need is a "Commend All" option, because some times you get a really great party, and everyone is great, and you can't commend everyone, despite them all deserving it...

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Originally Posted by Nalien

One thing we really need is a "Commend All" option, because some times you get a really great party, and everyone is great, and you can't commend everyone, despite them all deserving it... Might knock the whole "Give Tank/Healer Commendation" mentality off the top spot...

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only change that should be made is the commend all

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

only change that should be made is the commend all

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This. I hate it when I think everyone deserves it and I can only pick one.

As others have said, it would invalidate the whole system if you were to be able to comm someone simply on the merit that they comm'd you. So no.

I'd be fine with seeing who my commendations are from - after the instance is over and everyone's already comm'd/or not. And since if you go in with a premade you can't comm, the comms are only from DF randoms who are probably not on your server and 999/1000 you'll never see them again. Couple that with the fact that it would probably take a bit of effort to implement and, no, sorry I'll pass. It's not worth it.

As for the comm all suggestion, I like it in principle, but there has to be some disincentive or else there's no reason NOT to comm all every run, which inflates the amount of comms artificially and also makes the achievements rather worthless. Also, what if 3/4 did really awesome to make up for that one bad? He gets the comms too and now he has a ton of comms hiding the fact that he's a bad. Again, couple these downsides with the implementation energy and it's just not worth it, imho. I've got no problems with the was the comm system works. It's also pretty meaningless as the only thing it earns you is (meh) glamor.

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Originally Posted by KaitlanKela

As others have said, it would invalidate the whole system if you were to be able to comm someone simply on the merit that they comm'd you. So no.

I'd be fine with seeing who my commendations are from - after the instance is over and everyone's already comm'd/or not. And since if you go in with a premade you can't comm, the comms are only from DF randoms who are probably not on your server and 999/1000 you'll never see them again. Couple that with the fact that it would probably take a bit of effort to implement and, no, sorry I'll pass. It's not worth it.

As for the comm all suggestion, I like it in principle, but there has to be some disincentive or else there's no reason NOT to comm all every run, which inflates the amount of comms artificially and also makes the achievements rather worthless. Also, what if 3/4 did really awesome to make up for that one bad? He gets the comms too and now he has a ton of comms hiding the fact that he's a bad. Again, couple these downsides with the implementation energy and it's just not worth it, imho. I've got no problems with the was the comm system works. It's also pretty meaningless as the only thing it earns you is (meh) glamor.

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I agree with this fairly much, and I see no harm in being able to see how the comms were doled out afterwards (mostly because I'm curious about how often people actually don't give out a comm because it takes too long to click 2 things...), but the comm all thing defeats the purpose of the system in general. However, as far as giving comms to people who don't deserve them 'covering up' how bad they may be... I'm not sure there's a way to tell how many comms someone has without checking their achievement status on the Lodestone and even that only gives you the minimum threshold of what they've gotten. And, while the comm system rewards are mainly glamour... I can't tell you how much I've been itching to get that Parade Chocobo... so close... >.>

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think the system is not working as intended. It really is just 100% achievement and glamour.

1. It's not easy to see how many comms someone has. How are we supossed to assess someone's skill/effort if we can't even see it?
2. You have one pool of comms, but you can get comms playing as any job. If I have 1000 healer comms and I switch to my tank, those comms mean absolutely nothing when assessing my skill as a tank, but it may look like I'm good at it.
3. Your pool of comms doesn't take into account rate of growth. I will look like a bad compared to someone who's been playing since launch, but I've only been playing since september.

If they REALLY wanted comms to be meaningful in terms of knowing who's putting in effort toward a group, they'd let you see comms on the examine/search info screen and it would be average comms per group instance grouped by role. I would think a person performing decently would look something like this: Tanking roles = 1.25 comms per instance, Healing roles = 1.05 comms per instance, DPS roles = 0.65 comms per instance.

But as it is, comms tell us nothing and so...glamour. Now I'm jaded and may very well start neglecting to comm people too. XO

Wait.... "Commendations"? I thought they were "condemnations". You mean I've been commending everyone I've condemned? Well, I feel so much more "casual" now. :)

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Originally Posted by Crissy

Wait.... "Commendations"? I thought they were "condemnations". You mean I've been commending everyone I've condemned? Well, I feel so much more "casual" now. :)

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