Emperor's new shield

Couldn't find a post on this so sorry if there is one but

Please add this. I know we have dark knight with no shield, but I think it would be a nice touch for Paladins as well. Just a thought! I would be really happy if it happened though! :)

This would be quite hard to implement, as all of the animations take into account a shield being there, the blocking animation in particular would look really weird. Not saying its 100% a bad idea, as DoL/H use the PLD animations, but its not as natural as the emperor's new fists.

Would be cool I could probably make a character based off this guy

http://orig14.deviantart.net/29ee/f/...mo-d9d09ha.jpg

While I would agree, they could make it a tweak to make the shield throw look like a Chakram and solves that bit. As for the guarding, well then I can see the issue being blocking a sword and such with your wrist would seem odd, perhaps just an arm guard (thats dyeable) if we have to have something there.

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Originally Posted by Taur

Couldn't find a post on this so sorry if there is one but

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If you search for Emperor's New Shield, the third post down (not including this thread) specifically discusses this.

You might be interested to know a Community Rep has already discussed this topic. Here's the relevant quote:

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From a World setting and story perspective, not having a visible shield would mean that you couldn't use shield bash or shield lob, and as such we have no plans to introduce an "Emperor's New Shield." However, we may be able to make a small shield so that it doesn't stand out too much, so we will look into that.

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So you're blocking all those attacks with your forearm?
Ouch

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Originally Posted by Taur

Couldn't find a post on this so sorry if there is one but

Please add this. I know we have dark knight with no shield, but I think it would be a nice touch for Paladins as well. Just a thought! I would be really happy if it happened though! :)

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Well they could make a hide off hand only option for when you're out of combat.

Red Mage will more likely then not be one-handed swords or Rapiers, and by SE's track record with DRK (all the early swords were larger versions of PLD swords) more then likely you will be single-wielding a blade that way with PLD-like swords. Or they will make it Duel-Wield for the lols, or staff wielding.

Shield lob would look weird alright. Here i was thinking some of the shields, cough Ancile, could use a boost in size.

The shield is one of the weapons the Paladin, and some weapon skills of PLD are actually for the shield. It seems natural for PGL/MNK since their abilities depend on the fist rather than a weapon/blade (but at the same time it didn't really look good with how the hands look like they're holding an invisible knuckle) but still it's kinda weird if PLD got one for their shield.

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

Red Mage will more likely then not be one-handed swords or Rapiers...Or they will make it Duel-Wield for the lols, or staff wielding.

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Rapier in one hand, staff in the other!

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

Here i was thinking some of the shields, cough Ancile, could use a boost in size.

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Don't touch my shield. I love the anima specifically because the blade and shield are not big.

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Originally Posted by Calypsx

Don't touch my shield. I love the anima specifically because the blade and shield are not big.

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Nothing wrong with the sword but Ancile could use a little size buff on Roegadyns. I don't know how it scales on other races but it really does look small on my character. I do like my shields large a'la Bulwark of azzinoth.

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

Nothing wrong with the sword but Ancile could use a little size buff on Roegadyns. I don't know how it scales on other races but it really does look small on my character. I do like my shields large a'la Bulwark of azzinoth.

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Agreed. This is what the size of a scutum is supposed to be:

http://legvi.tripod.com/sitebuilderc...g.w300h556.jpg

Emperor's new___ is ultimately an illusion of an item placed on top of gear you're using.

The same could be said about PGL/MNK's weapon and we finally got the emperor's new fists.

So what's stopping them from creating a invisible or transparent shield?

http://images.victorianplumbing.co.u...VERY-LARGE.jpg

Where are my Emperors new daggers/spear.

I want my fantasy character to stab/slash with the air! Throw logic out the window.

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Originally Posted by myahele

The same could be said about PGL/MNK's weapon and we finally got the emperor's new fists.

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When the emperors fists were released, I went and bought one to test it for one specific detail:

Your monk will actually fight with his fists instead of holding an invisible grip. Wich is exactly what people wanted.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Where are my Emperors new daggers/spear.

I want my fantasy character to stab/slash with the air! Throw logic out the window.

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Why not?

We've got flying turtles. And tanking in bikinis. Invisible weapons aren't much of a stretch

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

Red Mage will more likely then not be one-handed swords or Rapiers, and by SE's track record with DRK (all the early swords were larger versions of PLD swords) more then likely you will be single-wielding a blade that way with PLD-like swords. Or they will make it Duel-Wield for the lols, or staff wielding.

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I very much doubt it. The only one handed weapons that aren't gld come from THM and CNJ and they were only kept due to 1.x. If you notice no futher weapons have been one handers. They could make a one-handed type weapon but mechanically it would be a two hander.

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Originally Posted by Saiah

Agreed. This is what the size of a scutum is supposed to be:

http://legvi.tripod.com/sitebuilderc...g.w300h556.jpg

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Maybe he's a midget.

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Originally Posted by Saiah

When the emperors fists were released, I went and bought one to test it for one specific detail:

Your monk will actually fight with his fists instead of holding an invisible grip. Wich is exactly what people wanted.

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If you take a close look at the fists, there's still a spot open to grip the bar of a weapon.

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

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No what im saying is they will most likely have a new weapon, per the history a Saber or Rapier but like the DRK GS most will use other blade skins. If you look most pre-50 drk weapons are GS in name but 1HS in skin/design.

Everyone keep on asking for this, SE keep on telling everyone to take a hike.

Please look forward to it!

This would look downright stupid, I hope they never implement such a thing.

You even have an ability called Shield Lob...I don't want to see paladins throwing air lol

Actually how it can work is since the Paladin uses magic, he can make his shield disappear, only to reappear when he needs it and disappear again when not in use. For example, he's fighting and when he needs to block, the shield appears, blocks then disappear, he can continue to hack & slash. When he needs to Sheild Lob, it'll appear on his hand and toss it to the mob, then disappear like the Hadouken or Tiger Shot from Street Fighter. Also, when he needs to stun, then shield appears, he bitch-slaps the mob across the face demanding satisfaction, then the shield disappears. To me that would work.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

This would look downright stupid, I hope they never implement such a thing.

You even have an ability called Shield Lob...I don't want to see paladins throwing air lol

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Not a good excuse considering that we have a flying tortoise due to player demand.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Not a good excuse considering that we have a flying tortoise due to player demand.

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A flying turtle's actually quite reasonable, as unreasonable as this sentence sounds. It's probably a reference to Gamera or that monster from Ultraman.

But if this gets implemented, I'll be looking forward to:
The emperor's new book/spear/axe/etc
The emperor's new face
The emperor's new hair
The emperor's new mount
The emperor's new minion
The emperor's new house

Yeah I hate shields too. This is the best post of the year. And on many games paladins use only one sword or a hammer. Sound's better than the boring shields.

http://<a href="https://encrypted-tb...GeXN7Q" /></a>

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

A flying turtle's actually quite reasonable, as unreasonable as this sentence sounds. It's probably a reference to Gamera or that monster from Ultraman.

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Which has absolutely no relation to FF and the developers have straight up admitted that it was done as per fan request rather than a homage. Especially when we have to believe in the improbability that the tortoise we get in the gold saucer just happens to be able to fly (and no other ones in Hydaylian can).

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Which has absolutely no relation to FF and the developers have straight up admitted that it was done as per fan request rather than a homage. Especially when we have to believe in the improbability that the tortoise we get in the gold saucer just happens to be able to fly (and no other ones in Hydaylian can).

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Meanwhile the game's full of puns and references not limited to final fantasy. And who knows whether the tortoises on hydaelyn can fly or not. The world as we know it right now is limited to the Eorzean continent. Even the fat chocobo can somehow fly through the power of cake.

Do you actually have to have a shield equipped to use shield lob? I'll have to pay more attention, I never thought it was my shield being tossed anyways, it always looked like the same shield animation 15 to 60.

Besides, we can run around without a shield. The game doesn't require you to equip one. (I've done this on accident) So what's the big deal with an invisible shield?

I would love to use a reinforced glove instead of the shield. Paladin would look more action based that way.

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Originally Posted by Taur

Couldn't find a post on this so sorry if there is one but

Please add this. I know we have dark knight with no shield, but I think it would be a nice touch for Paladins as well. Just a thought! I would be really happy if it happened though! :)

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I maded one, some months ago :I

I'll sign the petition for emperor's new shield. I think it should come with emperor's new sword too though.

Then PLD can be all like:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mpT_MSNo280/maxresdefault.jpg

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

Do you actually have to have a shield equipped to use shield lob? I'll have to pay more attention, I never thought it was my shield being tossed anyways, it always looked like the same shield animation 15 to 60.

Besides, we can run around without a shield. The game doesn't require you to equip one. (I've done this on accident) So what's the big deal with an invisible shield?

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You cannot use shield lob without a shield equipped, that is correct.

Not to mention even when you don't have a shield equipped, the animations still account for it, so your character is all hunched over and your arm hovers in front of you and it just looks weird and bad...

I never really treated 'Shield Lob' as though my character was seriously tossing a shield. Maybe a shield-shaped block of aether or something, but not my actual shield.

Regardless, I'm sorry but I really hate this idea because of how absurd it seems. The only way I could come to like it is if you could equip special gauntlets on to the shield slot that are heavily armoured and have a small shield melded on to them, a bit like the example below:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...atcherlant.jpg

(Albeit then I'd be jealous because my Warrior really wanted a pair of gauntlets where one was much more heavily armoured than the other, a bit like Raubahn only with no skin showing on either arm).


Aside from that, I really dislike this mentality where people choose to justify ANY concept by referencing existing examples that can be considered absurd. I may or may not be the biggest fan of some of those features either, but where does it end? I mean were people actually serious about creation the option to have invisible weapons for non-Monks? Really? I don't have a monk and have zero interest in levelling one but their request made perfect sense... anything else would be a real eye-roller for me, sorry.

Despite how envious my Warrior would be, I'll support the idea of shield-gauntlets... but not invisible shields.