Minstrel Class Suggestion

Hello everyone! I apologize if I'm posting on the wrong part of the forum but a couple of months ago I created a healer job. I showed it to a couple of friends and they said I should show more people so here it is.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

It is called the Minstrel job, and it would be how SCH is to SMN, but with bard. However, minstrel would not have archer as its base class so this job would be its own quest line in order to avoid the whole attribute points dilemma.

Anyway, just a fun little thing to show everyone ^_^ hope you enjoy, and please be nice. Thank you.

I for one, would love an actual harp-playing Bard (or Minstrel) instead of an archer who rarely plays a song that's often times only situational.

I've always felt that bard in this game needed to be more musical, and have ranger to be more focused on archery.

Immediately makes me think of the Minstrel Class from LotRO, which was a healer class there as well. However, that being said, I'm not sure we currently need another Healer job at the moment, at least not until they can bring AST into a position where it's truly competitive with WHM and SCH. I'd rather them focus on that then spend time developing a completely new job, but that's my opinion on the matter.

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Immediately makes me think of the Minstrel Class from LotRO, which was a healer class there as well. However, that being said, I'm not sure we currently need another Healer job at the moment, at least not until they can bring AST into a position where it's truly competitive with WHM and SCH. I'd rather them focus on that then spend time developing a completely new job, but that's my opinion on the matter.

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So many falsehoods with this statement. You take the past before the job was buffed and somehow magically assume it still applies.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

So many falsehoods with this statement. You take the past before the job was buffed and somehow magically assume it still applies.

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Um... what? Yes, AST was buffed, but it's still not on par as a healer with WHM and SCH. WHM + SCH is still the desirable combination of healers for content, and it is very rare to find AST as a desired option over either job where people will elect to have to choose between AST of equal gear/ability over a WHM or SCH.

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Just for clarification, I am not saying that AST is not viable in a party make up, a well-played AST can still make content doable. However, its heals and shields are still not quite on par with WHM and SCH, and the card system can be a bit too unpredictable to really be a good gap-closer.... also, once more in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Malzian

I'm not sure we currently need another Healer job at the moment, at least not until they can bring AST into a position where it's truly competitive with WHM and SCH.

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I was actually talking to a friend about this before, and we kinda agreed with this (the part about not needing more healers, not the part about AST). Currently healers have a trinity that consists of DPS healer (SCH), pure healer (WHM), and utility/support healer (AST), and there really isnt anywhere else to go other than to fit new healers into one of these 3 archetypes, in which case we have classes fighting for space (not a such problem, so long as the class is unique enough to have it come down to personal preference over playstyle).

Well, given the fact that there is already an npc in the game specifically called 'the Wandering Minstrel', who is actually just a conventional ARC/BRD (he's actually Naoki Yoshida's in-game alter ego ;)), I seriously doubt you will see such a Job based specifically on the use of musical instruments.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Well, given the fact that there is already an npc in the game specifically called 'the Wandering Minstrel', who is actually just a conventional ARC/BRD (he's actually Naoki Yoshida's in-game alter ego ;)), I seriously doubt you will see such a Job based specifically on the use of musical instruments.

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I don't see why. There are plenty of NPCs with playable jobs.

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Originally Posted by NebAngel

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That's be pretty cool. Even though I'd have to level my archer, I wouldn't mind if it was to get an actual musical healing class. Perhaps it could also open a new oppurtunity for other classes getting multiple cross jobs (or w/e these are called lol) Like GLD at lvl 30 could become the dual swordsman or CNJ at lvl 30 could be dancer X)

Gods, I miss the days of support from RIFT and FFXI. Instead, we got these wierd mutant-DPS support hybrids that basically are so dead set on being a "DPS" that they refuse to use their support utility.

I'd love a class devoted to Support. I'd love for Mechanist and Bard to both get side-jobs ala the Soul Crystal system to try and get real Ranged DPS and share a spot with BLM's.

I think FFXIV's biggest issue right now is we have a very rigid structure on our party comp. There's not much room for fluidity in progression/PUG raiding.

2 Tanks
2 Heals
2 Melee DPS
1 Magic DPS
1 Ranged DPS

I'd personally prefer

2 tank
2 Heals
1-3 Physical DPS
1-2 Magical DPS
1 Optional Support