Mobs TP

Can it be slowed done please?

Mobs like Moles, gnats, and ghost have really fast tp builds. Once they start using tp, they almost never stop. Ever 5 seconds regardless if I hit them or me, they dig, disappear, warp giving them dear well-near invincibility.

I agree with this! Our LS noticed when we went to try a Darkhold dungeon run post 1.19 that the Ogre seemed to spam his TP moves consecutively without even being hit by the DDs in our group :( Quite bizarre to say the least..

If you think about it, those moves actually use somewhere from 250 TP to 500 TP. With the rate of people hitting him, Ogre damn sure can spam those like there's no tomorrow >_> I would say nerf the low cost TP.

At low level, this is also a problem when fighting cactuars. In a few leves you have to beat them in groups of 3 and it's almost impossible to kill them before they use 100 needles... Even though it's not 1000 anymore (thank god), this is still hard to take when you play as a Thaumaturge with less than 400hp.

Maybe it's like how it was in 11 and their AI spams WS's ASAP when they start to get low.

Omg how i hate the gnats and moles lol.
Always doing there hide skills lol.
Now they indeed spam it and it can get annoying specially when you need to just hit them 1 more time..
They do that and byebye chain lol

Broski's... it's all about the Nannygoats. Dat headbutt knock back on the real. Fastest way to get from Cedarwood to LL -> fight a group of 3 Nannygoats and watch them knock you across the map all day.

Just fought cactuars today. Sure the have 100 needle move, but they spammed it. They spammed it so much it's still thousand needles. Seriously every time they finished one thousand needle it went an another.

This mob tp regain needs to be slowed WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY down.

First time I realize this issue was while fighting yarzons on a Grand Company leve @ Treespeak. They used to cast its TP down move (can't remember the name, Brain Spike? Something like that...) and all in a sudden they kept casting that single action again and again, not allowing me to cast any WS due lack of TP.
Absolutely odd.

It seems like their "TP" moves are hp based.

Example: While farming Karakul near camp glory with THM, I would use Shadowsear with Blood Rite. Sometimes they would only have about 5-10 percent hp left. Without even using a melee attack first they can use their TP move. It's also possible mobs gain massive TP gain when sustaining damage, similar to FFXI.

A lot of our own tp skills only require a hit or two before we can use them. That, along with how I think they made the system similar to ffxi where they use TP attacks when they can while low on hp is what marks their behavior. Then some who just counter (djiggas)

I guess this is part of how they want the combat sped up

I've noticed this even after I've just used twisting vice on a mob. I get the message in the chat log saying the mobs tp has been reduced to 0 and it still immediately starts spamming moves on me.

See I can see the hp trigger spamming tp atatcks on Boss mobs only, not regular mobs.

It wouldn't be so bad if the tp attacks weren't large one siders, or draw out fights. Hitting a mole underground, it'll never take damage.

I won't even bother fight a ghost or gnat, moles are bad enough with there invincible dig.

those kind of mobs cause more frustration than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

those kind of mobs cause more frustration than anything else.

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It would be no problem for Kenshiro to kill them. By the time they even think about using their tp... they are already dead. They just don't know it XD. Love your sig!

CACTUARS. Holy crap, was doing a leve where you had to kill groups of 3. As soon as they get low health, they start blasting off 100 needles. Not so bad 1v1, but 1v3 is ridiculous.

this is an issue that needs to be adressed in a small patch i have expierianced this in leve quests more times than i can count slow down mob tp gain and move spaming itsa not fair to casual soloers like myselfe and others who dont have all day to play or a large ls to get groups going with

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Originally Posted by smokymcweed

this is an issue that needs to be adressed in a small patch i have expierianced this in leve quests more times than i can count slow down mob tp gain and move spaming itsa not fair to casual soloers like myselfe and others who dont have all day to play or a large ls to get groups going with

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The only thing I'd expect of this is they let mobs adjust themselves (kind of like FFVIII) otherwise..this dulls down gameplay for those who play with groups..it would be painfully dull if a mob only used 1 TP move a battle or a boss never uses a TP move till it's about to die.

From what I've noticed, it's just certain families that have different TP rates (ignoring bosses, which it makes sense) but like players, if you're getting beat down you'd do your best to spam moves, wouldn't you?

The enemies certainly gain TP based on how much damage they take... if you do a move that devastates an enemy it will have enough TP to use its ability several times and at low health, it certainly will.
For some enemies this can be REALLY annoying, such as with Cactuars and with some (like Dodos) you don't even really care much. That should be addressed.

yup, in some leves you have to fight 3 hippocerf all at once, suddenly all 3 is just spamming that stun move over and over..

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Originally Posted by Andrien

yup, in some leves you have to fight 3 hippocerf all at once, suddenly all 3 is just spamming that stun move over and over..

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Yeah, I noticed that in Darkhold when you get stuck near the first blue circle.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

The only thing I'd expect of this is they let mobs adjust themselves (kind of like FFVIII) otherwise..this dulls down gameplay for those who play with groups..it would be painfully dull if a mob only used 1 TP move a battle or a boss never uses a TP move till it's about to die.

From what I've noticed, it's just certain families that have different TP rates (ignoring bosses, which it makes sense) but like players, if you're getting beat down you'd do your best to spam moves, wouldn't you?

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I would spam my abilities, but do any of our moves grant us the ability to become invincible, constantly make them lose target on us, do massive damage to the entire group of enemies, able to spam it with a constant invigorate-like ability. I don't see anyone with tp attacks that effective.

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Originally Posted by RemVye

Broski's... it's all about the Nannygoats. Dat headbutt knock back on the real. Fastest way to get from Cedarwood to LL -> fight a group of 3 Nannygoats and watch them knock you across the map all day.

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A bunch of nannygoats actually forced me to cancel their leve because they knocked me back completely out of the leve range and I got the "Levequest Abandoned" message. Nannygoats are currently the strongest mob in the game I feel because of how fast/hard they hit and how strong/annoying their weapon skill is. All other "hard" monsters (imps, gnats, fachans) got nerfed while goats somehow slid under the radar. The only monster I have serious trouble killing post-1.19 are goats.

Point of the matter: All. Goats. Must. Die.

EDIT: I have noticed what other people have said in that once they START using their weapon skill.. they will use it back to back to back to back to... you get the point.


Also, I'd just like to say that if they do chose to reform monster TP I do not want it to be like XI. I don't want the fast hitters (PGL, dual wielding jobs, etc) to be kicked to the side with the excuse "You feed too much TP". I hated hearing that in XI so much and hope I never hear someone ever tell me that in XIV.