World Transfer Help/Advice?

After quite some significant time playing, I'd like to transfer my character to another server for personal reasons. However, I've noted that the service appears to be more punishing to more long term users.

The 1 million gil limit is understandable regarding in-game economy, yet I have a lot more than 1 million gil - nearly double that. Should I purchase items of high value in order to make use of my gil rather than waste it? If anyone knows of an item I can resell to regain my lost gil, that would be incredibly helpful.

I'd also like some help regarding server population on the Chaos data centre - I've had my eye on Phoenix and Cerberus. If anyone can provide a rough population estimate, I'd be very grateful as I'd rather transfer my character to a less crowded server.

Then again, I'm currently in Zodiark so I'm sure wherever I go it'll be crowded. (Laughs) Thanks for the help in advance!

Best advice I can give is to make an alt on that server and see which items sell most consistently, buy those items and bring them over. Some players will buy rare minions, but imo that's more of a gamble.

yep make an alt on the server your interested in going and review your worlds market and that worlds and naturally by cheap items current world that sell far more one the world you want to move to.

So your closer to the servers in Germany? chaos data center?

Depending on location I would sample the ping and pick any world located on lowest ping server. I'm a aussie for example so had to pick a JP world.

Thanks for the quick replies. I'm on an entry level subscription account as I'm happy focusing on my one and only main character. Your advice is great and I would have taken it up, except I'm unable to make additional characters as a result of my subscription. I could change it but due to work and other commitments, I'm loathe to pay extra when I can't always guarantee I'll have the time to play.

I'm British so the Chaos centre seems the best place for me to be, I never really thought about trying other centres. Do you not have trouble finding English speakers on the JP server, Valkyrie?

I guess I need someone from Phoenix or Cerberus to find the best selling items. I hope someone from there pops into this thread!

Minions sound like a good idea though I'm unsure which ones would make the best profits. It's certainly looking like I'll have to cut my losses but again due to personal reasons I'd rather get away from the server I'm currently in. Thanks for your help so far!

Try posting in their subforums asking? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/f...Group-NA-EU%29 or change the title seeking help from those servers?

You could also consider buying allagan pieces and clear demimateria as they have a solid set value if you can stockpile enough. Not to mention the items being sold on the board for below vendor cost.

OH, if you have only 2mil? You can place up to 500k 100k on your two retainers.

Take a look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...y_730k_active/

It shows some interesting results to do with raiding, for example. Ragnarok, Odin and Moogle have the best/biggest raiding populations.

If I'm interpreting the big Excel-sheet correctly, the game had 733k active players at the time of the report. EU worlds in order of active population are as follows: Phoenix (21k), Cerberus (20k), Lich (16k), Zodiark, Ragnarok, Shiva, Odin, Moogle (13k). Phoenix and Cerberus populations are very close to that of the giants Balmung and Gilgamesh, so housing could be an issue there. Oddly the best servers for raiding have the smallest amount of active players. I would have expected otherwise. This report was submitted 8 months ago so I'm not sure how accurate it is at this point.

The fc I'm in on Odin has a constant stream of new players joining and I see sprouts everywhere. At the moment (2 hours before prime time) there are 16 listings on PF including fates, thordan ex and coil. On the other hand, not many people pug savage.

World forums could give you an idea about the community, languages used and potential fc's to join. Good luck! :)

Edit: here's a more recent one. Check out the "60+ demographics" link. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...cs_turkey_day/

Seems that Ragnarok and Cerberus have the most level 60 players in Chaos.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

OH, if you have only 2mil? You can place up to 500k on your two retainers.

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Unfortunately it's only 100k per retainer now. They reduced it a while back :(

Oh. I'm sorry for the misinformation OP!

Entry subscription lets you make another char on other servers. Just delete it again like 1 day before your transfer, so it doesnt come into conflict with your main char. This way you can still look up prices on different servers you might have interest on

Well you said u had eyes on Phoenix so am telling you this Phoenix crafting mats sells the most

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Originally Posted by Stormrider

You could also consider buying allagan pieces and clear demimateria as they have a solid set value if you can stockpile enough. Not to mention the items being sold on the board for below vendor cost.

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No, this is a terrible idea that is in no way practical in the game.

I transferred with the Chaos move and had 15 mil gil at the time. I bought a variety of things (minions, thav crafting mats, thav onions, shards, materia). From my experience, I'd say shards/crystals/clusters were the best - very high demand, so stock is always moving, and if you sell in small amounts (100~300 instead of 1000+), you can get people to buy them at a slightly higher price. The prices on the other things fluctuated a lot due to the lower demand. It took maybe a month for me to sell the non-shards off.

EDIT: to pull up numbers I compiled before:

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Originally Posted by raela

Just to help kill some spread of misinformation.. in order to transfer even 1 million gil, you would need 2,000 silver coins, 400 gold coins, or 100 platinum coins. As of right now, on Cactaur:

Allagan Silver Piece (sells for 500): 13 sellers, only 5 at vendor rate, 57 at 800 gil, 71 at 900, 106 at 1000, 1 at 1 million, 2 at 99,999,999
Allagan Gold Piece (sells for 2500): 1 at 4000, 10 at 5000
Allagan Platinum Piece (sells for 10000): 2 at 500k, 1 at 1 million, 2 at 4 million

Much better alternatives: look for popular crafting mats, materia, and/or shards+crystals+clusters. From my own transfer, I quickly realized it was much better to go for slightly lower value things that sell often. I still have some mats that haven't sold, and the price keeps dropping

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Thank you to everyone who's responded so far!

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Originally Posted by ExKage

Try posting in their subforums asking? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/f...Group-NA-EU%29 or change the title seeking help from those servers?

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That's definitely my next port of call, I'll see if I can ask the players directly on those servers for advice. Thanks for pointing me over there, I'm still new to the Forum so embarrassingly it's something I missed. Also, don't worry about the misinformation, ExKage, someone beat me to correcting you! I didn't realise they reduced the cost. Makes my virtual life a lot harder to transfer.

Thank you so much, Reinha, for the extensive server information. It certainly gives me a better idea of where to go. Not to mention it's interesting to look at. I'm researching as much as possible before I make my transfer application. It's not something I plan on doing again so I'm trying to get it right first time.

I looked up the Allagan pieces you suggested Stormrider, but they're selling for ridiculous prices and are no where near a fair trade. On Zodiark I saw Platinum pieces selling for 35k each! Thanks for bringing clarity to the information I've been given Raela, I'll definitely take up your advice regarding Materia and clusters. If anything I need to meld Materia into my Sphere Scroll anyway, so I suppose buying Materia won't put my gil to waste.

I'll be honest and say I'm unsure about crafting mats. I've only ever really dabbled in weaving and being a botanist. An explanation would be appreciated. Again, thanks so much for all the great responses. It's more than I expected! I'll see about directing players from Phoenix and Cerberus here for more advice before I make the move and I'm still all ears for any further tips. For now, I'll be stockpiling crystals and Materia. Thanks!

oh sorry about the super late reply really on a JP server you have to get used to auto translate.... its quite the pain but there still are a reasonable amount of eng people on jp servers and biggest is tonberry but take my advice don't go there.... its like elitist central there.

main advantage of a JP server is JP people tend to be somewhat less elitist one death your out like tonberry that's the eng version of a jp world.... and a few other eng servers tend to be like that too Masamune is more calm even if quiet and df queues though like only 5 mins for most things.

That's alright, Valkyrie. I didn't realise XIV was also affected by elitist groups. I'll be sure to stay away from them - I like to think I'm a relaxed player. Zodiark is mainly very friendly, but higher level dungeons and raids can bring the odd rage quitter or two. There's also certain groups that just have no patience and their temperament simply isn't suited for online play.

Does anyone know of any dedicated roleplaying servers? I've always wanted to RP but I find it hard to find an FC dedicated to it, let alone an entire server. Since I'm preparing to jump ship, it'd be nice to find a place I feel at home in.

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Phoenix is high population for sure, I was there a few months before moving to Ragnarok(also high pop being that it's a legacy server), but keep in mind.. high population doesn't exactly mean it's a good server to be on.

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Originally Posted by BlackValse

That's alright, Valkyrie. I didn't realise XIV was also affected by elitist groups. I'll be sure to stay away from them - I like to think I'm a relaxed player. Zodiark is mainly very friendly, but higher level dungeons and raids can bring the odd rage quitter or two. There's also certain groups that just have no patience and their temperament simply isn't suited for online play.

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You will be disappointed if this is one of your reasons for transferring. Rage Quitters are on every server. Take it from me as a tank. If I botch a pull, someone is going to leave, because oh noes its going to be bad from here on out, apparently. BISMARK is the MASTER RAGE QUITTER trial.

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Originally Posted by BlackValse

That's alright, Valkyrie. I didn't realise XIV was also affected by elitist groups. I'll be sure to stay away from them - I like to think I'm a relaxed player. Zodiark is mainly very friendly, but higher level dungeons and raids can bring the odd rage quitter or two. There's also certain groups that just have no patience and their temperament simply isn't suited for online play.

Does anyone know of any dedicated roleplaying servers? I've always wanted to RP but I find it hard to find an FC dedicated to it, let alone an entire server. Since I'm preparing to jump ship, it'd be nice to find a place I feel at home in.

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Balmung and Gilgamesh are the two best known. Balmung, I think, gets brought up more often.

For gil stockpiling I'll echo raela on the materia especially. Depending on your economy you may find some for less than list price and many more at list price.

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

Balmung and Gilgamesh are the two best known. Balmung, I think, gets brought up more often.

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There's nothing official but Balmung and Gilgamesh do have RP. Balmung... it's pretty easy to find FCs. A few of them even have it listed XX-RP. If you walk in Ul'dah you will see it quite a bit and there's usually public event every week. There's a few resources players keep to try and spread info. RPers pretty much openly RP, not hiding it etc.

Take this with a word of salt as I don't play on Gilgamesh, but Gilgamesh RP is apparently there and people are dedicated but you will have to do some digging. There is a website dedicated to Gilgamesh RP to help those on Gilgamesh find their RP as it's mostly in-FC, in LS, etc. Mostly done privately and not out in the open.

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Originally Posted by Twilite

Phoenix is high population for sure, I was there a few months before moving to Ragnarok(also high pop being that it's a legacy server), but keep in mind.. high population doesn't exactly mean it's a good server to be on.

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This I certainly know and I don't expect to jump to a high pop server to find it all sunshine and rainbows. That's why I've been asking questions - I want to make sure I choose the right server for me. Reason I asked about population was because on Zodiark I've found myself waiting more than 3 hours for the duty finder on certain dungeons. I only wish I was joking, too...

I know that rage quitters are on every server. I fully expect it; I've been playing the game long enough. But some are of a higher degree of rage than others. :P

Thanks for the RP info, Teryaani and ExKage, shame they're not on the Chaos Data Centre. I'd rather stay there to ensure a solid connection/strong ping. Still, the information never comes in wrong! Thank you very much.

I'll see about seeking out some RPers in my new home - wherever that may be. I love to play as my mute Black Mage who only conveys through emotes. :) I've done it many a time in dungeons to some hilarious results.

I'd just like to thank everyone once again for their helpful input. As you can now see from my profile, I've finally jumped over to Phoenix to make a new home for myself. Looking forward to experiencing the community and I couldn't have done it without the help and support from you folk here on the Forum. Thank you!

Now to get all of my Gil back...