SMN Egi Glam?

Didn't I read a few months ago they were going to add SMN glams for their egi?

There are other things I'd rather them work on other than possible future cash shop additions.

They did say so but its turned into "eh, we will get to it when we get to it" over time

Something something not necessary development

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Originally Posted by Jynx

There are other things I'd rather them work on other than possible future cash shop additions.

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Go find a thread about those other things then.

Back to topic, I wouldn't mind that. If I could turn Garuda into a Carbuncle that'd be pretty sweet, or even titan into a floating Hildabrand minion. It'd be pretty fun to watch actually. Or even other monster disguises like succubus which would fit better for garuda, a bombard for ifrit, I'd settle for a gael kitten for titan anyday lol. Its a tiny thing, but still a fun idea. Not sure why everyone is worried about things that are unnecessary because SE's been doing it forever now with Lord of Verminion, new poses, and unnecessary mounts. Like who made them dev planners anyway? (to the players) -_-

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Originally Posted by Jynx

There are other things I'd rather them work on other than possible future cash shop additions.

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Originally Posted by Eul

Something something not necessary development

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I find it amusing how ignorant some poeople can be.

They already promised it multiple times, so whether you like it or not we are getting it.

It is a core mechanic of a class/job and it needs fixing. Please take your negativity somewhere else and troll there. If there was something major wrong with your favourite class/job, you would be entitled to ask for a fix too.

Especially one, that has been promised multiple times.

Correct me if Im wrong, but I don't think any guarantees or definite answers were given on the subject. It was basically a "we are looking into it" and they'll get to it when they feel like it.

It took them nearly 2 years to finally release the jukebox (will be available in 3.2?) ... so it should probably take that long, max

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

Correct me if Im wrong, but I don't think any guarantees or definite answers were given on the subject. It was basically a "we are looking into it" and they'll get to it when they feel like it.

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Then its best to keep your comments regarding whether or not its necessary to yourselves huh? "Looking into it" doesn't sound like a flat no like the Viera race.

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Originally Posted by BunnyHop

I find it amusing how ignorant some poeople can be.

They already promised it multiple times, so whether you like it or not we are getting it.

It is a core mechanic of a class/job and it needs fixing. Please take your negativity somewhere else and troll there. If there was something major wrong with your favourite class/job, you would be entitled to ask for a fix too.

Especially one, that has been promised multiple times.

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I don't mind with glamour to Egi/Carbuncle since sometimes I play SMN too, but... core mechanic? It just egi glamour not revamp the egi >_> SMN already fine as it is now, even better than 2.0.
There's other thing that need to do other than egi glamour, also if talking about fairness, I want glamour for faerie too.

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Originally Posted by BunnyHop

I find it amusing how ignorant some poeople can be.

They already promised it multiple times, so whether you like it or not we are getting it.

It is a core mechanic of a class/job and it needs fixing. Please take your negativity somewhere else and troll there. If there was something major wrong with your favourite class/job, you would be entitled to ask for a fix too.

Especially one, that has been promised multiple times.

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I've bolded the parts that strike me as excessive hyperbole. You might as well also threaten to unsub just because you can't make your Garuda look like Lord Haurchefant. Don't get me wrong, SMN egi glamours sound like a cool and fun feature, but to imply that their lack makes something "majorly wrong" with SMN is kinda silly, IMO.

(...will definitely not say no to being able to make my Garuda look like Haurchefant, though.)

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Originally Posted by Eul

I don't mind with glamour to Egi/Carbuncle since sometimes I play SMN too, but... core mechanic? It just egi glamour not revamp the egi >_> SMN already fine as it is now, even better than 2.0.
There's other thing that need to do other than egi glamour, also if talking about fairness, I want glamour for faerie too.

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So, there were other subjects that SE should have spent their time on when you asked for Sundrop dance as well.
Should SE take it away from you because they feel sorry that they spent their precious time and recources on something trivial als that dance to make poeple like you happy?

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

I've bolded the parts that strike me as excessive hyperbole. You might as well also threaten to unsub just because you can't make your Garuda look like Lord Haurchefant. Don't get me wrong, SMN egi glamours sound like a cool and fun feature, but to imply that their lack makes something "majorly wrong" with SMN is kinda silly, IMO.

(...will definitely not say no to being able to make my Garuda look like Haurchefant, though.)

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Being able to Summon a summon, is a core part of a Summoner Job. Without our summons, our dmg/utility will lack.

Some people complained that Summoners don't really feel like a Summoner because the amount of Summons one can call upon, is very limited.
I think that this was the major point why SE agreed to give people more summons. That was their initial promise. But after a few updates they changed their promise to "We will give more Summon glamours"

So, we have 2 Summons for damage and only 1 for tank.

If we analyze this further, out of the 2 damage summons Garuda is 90% (maybe 95%) better to use than Ifrit.
And don't get me started on Titan, you end up (almost) never using it during dungeons and after lvl 35-40 ish, it becomes useless. Even with Psychic + Sustain, it loses hp too fast and it struggles to keep (multiple) agro/hate.

For me, the summoner is fine as it is. I actually love my Garuda. But I have to agree with other people here. The amount of Summons we can summon, feels lacking and it needs fixing.
And to be perfectly honest, in a game where graphics and detail is a huge deal,, the summons lack both aesthetics. They hardly resemble the Primals which they're made from.
Other classes/jobs don't have this issue. They all have flashy/beautiful effects/gameplay. Why can't summoners get some love they deserve? It's unfair.


I personally fell in love with the Garuda minion they showed us a month ago. I would be perfectly fine if they gave us the primal minions as our Egi glamour so we have another option to choose from.

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

Then its best to keep your comments regarding whether or not its necessary to yourselves huh? "Looking into it" doesn't sound like a flat no like the Viera race.

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Uh....my response was civil and had appropriate information. I have no idea why you quoted me or what you're even referring to about being "necessary".

It just seems like you're being hostile for no reason and trying pick a fight.

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Originally Posted by BunnyHop

They already promised it multiple times, so whether you like it or not we are getting it.

It is a core mechanic of a class/job and it needs fixing. Please take your negativity somewhere else and troll there. If there was something major wrong with your favourite class/job, you would be entitled to ask for a fix too.

Especially one, that has been promised multiple times.

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When/where was it promised? I'm genuinely curious, and I'm not trying to disprove you in any way, I just don't recall ever seeing anything definitive. All I recall is just the mere discussion that it's a feature they are looking to implement at some point. I keep seeing people say certain things were "promised", but I haven't really seen proof of that.

Personally I would love some Egi glamours, I'm just not counting on it being anytime soon, sadly lol.

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

Go find a thread about those other things then.

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Oh not saying they shouldn't ever get to it, I'm just saying they have a few more important actually broken systems to worry about before they start nickle and diming poor summoners.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

Uh....my response was civil and had appropriate information. I have no idea why you quoted me or what you're even referring to about being "necessary".

It just seems like you're being hostile for no reason and trying pick a fight.

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Srry your right. My sense is a bit "bluhhh" talking on these forums. X(

Hey guys.... I wasn't trying to open up the hatorade, #GetGud genie bottle. There was some dev post in the past saying it was something in the works. Was just curious if anyone was up to date on the subject. Not a debate on priority needs. If anyone has some info it's greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by BunnyHop

So, there were other subjects that SE should have spent their time on when you asked for Sundrop dance as well.
Should SE take it away from you because they feel sorry that they spent their precious time and recources on something trivial als that dance to make poeple like you happy?

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If it's about the priority, why not? I don't mind SE put QoL first than vanity since, QoL is really important while vanity can later implemented.

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Originally Posted by Arasiel

Hey guys.... I wasn't trying to open up the hatorade, #GetGud genie bottle. There was some dev post in the past saying it was something in the works. Was just curious if anyone was up to date on the subject. Not a debate on priority needs. If anyone has some info it's greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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As far as information goes they have been mum on the subject since it's initial announcement.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

When/where was it promised? I'm genuinely curious, and I'm not trying to disprove you in any way, I just don't recall ever seeing anything definitive. All I recall is just the mere discussion that it's a feature they are looking to implement at some point. I keep seeing people say certain things were "promised", but I haven't really seen proof of that.

Personally I would love some Egi glamours, I'm just not counting on it being anytime soon, sadly lol.

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I know where you are coming from. I just searched for a similar thread where someone was asking a similar question like you and that person got answered by another player with a quote from Yoshi-P himself I believe.
But sadly I cannot find the said topic and or the quote itself (yet).

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Originally Posted by Eul

If it's about the priority, why not? I don't mind SE put QoL first than vanity since, QoL is really important while vanity can later implemented.

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The point is you asked for it, along with many others and you all got what you wished for.

And now you are coming here, pretending to never asked for trivial things and tell us that SE has more important things to work on,, in your opinion.
This here is hypocrit. People can ask whatever they want. It's not up to you to decide what is more important, and what not.

Hey guys.... I wasn't trying to open up the hatorade, #GetGud genie bottle. There was some dev post in the past saying it was something in the works. Was just curious if anyone was up to date on the subject. Not a debate on priority needs. If anyone has some info it's greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Arasiel

Hey guys.... I wasn't trying to open up the hatorade, #GetGud genie bottle. There was some dev post in the past saying it was something in the works. Was just curious if anyone was up to date on the subject. Not a debate on priority needs. If anyone has some info it's greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Last I heard they where talking about how they wanted to release things (spread them out or one large lump), but they also mentioned that they needed to create a full suite of animations for each Egi skin they add.

This also doesn't take into account how much work it is to benefit only 1 job (or 2/3 if Scholar and Machinist can also glamour their pets).

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Originally Posted by BunnyHop

The point is you asked for it, along with many others and you all got what you wished for.

And now you are coming here, pretending to never asked for trivial things and tell us that SE has more important things to work on,, in your opinion.
This here is hypocrit. People can ask whatever they want. It's not up to you to decide what is more important, and what not.

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All of thing I request is a remake something like bunny ears for male, and of course people can say to me it's not necessary since... It's just ears. But it's about gender fairness not only the ears. (But I'm not really care with it right now since I have Reindeer Horn)

And what about egi glamour? The SMN quest itself say it's hard to make us using other primal as egi (TL;DR way).

Also didn't I read about changing some egi like Garuda to look like Ramuh

The latest they said about the Egi Glamour thus far is that they have to consider stuff like changing spell effects (and probably skill icons and flavour text), as well as whether to release multiple glamour at once, or one at a time. I'll be surprised if they fully go through with this really. Seems like one of those ideas that sounded good at the time before they eventually scrap or limit how its done... but we'll see.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

The latest they said about the Egi Glamour thus far is that they have to consider stuff like changing spell effects (and probably skill icons and flavour text), as well as whether to release multiple glamour at once, or one at a time. I'll be surprised if they fully go through with this really. Seems like one of those ideas that sounded good at the time before they eventually scrap or limit how its done... but we'll see.

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...which is why I was never under the impression that any specific promises had been made about implementing it. It always just seemed like brainstorming and possibilities than anything solid or definite.

One step that they can do relatively fast is use the different colored carbuncles we've seen, especially since Topaz and Emerald Carbuncle have their own versions Titan/Garuda skills except for Enkindle abilities. It'll be the Ifrit-equivalent that'll be new in terms of animation.

Although no matter how simple that might seem ... it might difficult from a programing perspective. It took them a while for the Gold Magitek mount to have attacks all about it was somehow limited to completing a MSQ ... ok. Which might explain why our Beastribe mounts won't have attacks despite them being present during beastribe quests.

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Originally Posted by myahele

use the different colored carbuncles we've seen,

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TBH, I'd be happy with them letting us just use the carbuncles from ACN. I miss carbuncle and would take it over chicken nugget and green paper plane anyday.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

There are other things I'd rather them work on other than possible future cash shop additions.

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Yeah. Let's first add a Mini RTS. Next, I'd rather them design and create a motorcycle, but make it just for show. No actual implementation please! Then, let's work on adding a bunch of old lightning stuff to the mog station plox. Finally, let's have them copy paste some weapon skins and icons and then have us go back and redo the same old content 700x.

In a game where Glamour (for ourselves?) is the true endgame.. its not hard to extend that to summons.. which are.. basically the 'weapons' of the summoner. So yeah.. I say we need this for sure! It might even get me to finish leveling mine!

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Originally Posted by Divine_Ultima

TBH, I'd be happy with them letting us just use the carbuncles from ACN. I miss carbuncle and would take it over chicken nugget and green paper plane anyday.

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Without chicken nugget how will you lure all the monsters?! Please consider the gravity of your request....

Still, i agree that carbuncle is much better looking. Not sure what the devs were thinking when they replaced iconic summons with food and origami...

Maybe they thought we wanted them big or nothing at all? When in reality we may simply want to feel like real summoners. Give arcanist the egis and we can have carbuncle lol

Those threads are like the ones about the lightning stuff...>_>
I just want my carbuncles back, don't rly care about Shiva, Levi etc. glams

I think it is kind of important for summoners... other classes get new skills... and they don't seem to get new pets... so this is the only way they are going to expand their job defining mechanic.

Summs should get glamours... same pets for years = boring. =-(

I hope they glamour the scholar fairy too. Id love to go around healing with a carbuncle.

More important question here is not "when will we get egi-glamours", but rather asking what can we, the players, do to help with this potential developmental endeavor.

Swapping a pet for a preexisting asset (IE, Carby) can't be THAT difficult can it? Same question for pallet swapping Carby as necessary for respective fairy/Ifrit.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

what can we, the players, do to help with this potential developmental endeavor.

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SE: Open your wallets a little wider that's what.

It looks like summoner glamours got added to the same list as player-addons.