Current Housing Issue

How housing was handled was terrible.

People BOUGHT the damn houses and now have party finder FULL of "WTS Small house in Goblet." Houses need to BIND on character, non-Transferable and allow a reclaim option to receive 80% back.

HOUSING SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE TRADED. END OF STORY. ALTS SHOULD NOT be able to buy houses, but they SHOULD Have Equal access to an Alts House. This is ridiculous SE. Why did we wait outside of houses HOPING one would open? WHEN WE HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN ACTIVE?! WHAT IS THAT?

I've honestly never been so aggravated at you SE. I EMBRACED the Relic grind, but this is just unfair.

They gave more information to players who are not active (like when its getting demolished, and the fact that server downtimes are not counted toward the 45 days). That's...kind of important information for anyone that wants to geta house from a player that's truly inactive.

And there's also the last minute maintenance for the housing reclaims...it's as if they hadn't tested it to make sure it'd work on the day it'd be put onto action.

Didn't help with the free login period either.

You will think im trolling but im actually angry at myself for not thinking about doing that with my alt on the house right next to mine.
Instead i just told people who were looking for a house that it was about to be demolished, what a missed opportunity, dammit...


Next time,maybe.

Every slot on Gilgamesh is full for EVERY HOUSING DIVISION for EVERY WARD. But dont worry the Party finder is full of people who are trying to sell them for 50-80 million. Yeah. Smart SE. Wish this was considered abuse and reportable. Bans pls. >:I

I got offered 250m for my large plot that I just bought. I might sell it now

And now you have to check every ward. Every minute. Every Day. Because there is no way to to tell when one will open.

Funny, I'm looking at the exact reverse situation in my server. PF has like 20 people looking to BUY a house. Not a single one in sale.

You'll live dude, just chill.

You'll eventually get one when they add new wards.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

Every post so far.

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Deep breaths, mate. I didn't get a house today either despite standing and waiting in front of one owned by a guild populated by a level 1 and level 6 character (not even high enough to have retainers and be someone's mule alts) that was founded in 2013--that never got demolished. There's like 5 other people who were there with me. If one of us had gotten it I'd be happier than I am now (even if it weren't me), and I'll admit a little annoyance at this house that's clearly not being used for anything remaining.

But, damn, man. There's going to be constant churn now and there's new wards coming in 3.3. Just check the wards through the main aetheryte every now and again, and, if nothing else, when the new wards come you'll get another chance. It'll be okay.

Worst case scenario, and you never get a house? It's just a game. We play it to relax and have fun. No need to take it so seriously.

We play it, yeah. We also stop playing it when you realize the only way you're getting what you wait is if you housewatch the every moment you're on the game. That or earn more gil or be like allot of players and buy gil. When a game sets up a perfect opportunity for a goal and players who have houses ruin the direct economy of it, its beyond upsetting. Yeah lets wait 4 months for this to happen again.

Stuff I suggested needs implemented. There is no need for housing to even be tradeable.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

How housing was handled was terrible.

People BOUGHT the damn houses and now have party finder FULL of "WTS Small house in Goblet." Houses need to BIND on character, non-Transferable and allow a reclaim option to receive 80% back.

HOUSING SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE TRADED. END OF STORY. ALTS SHOULD NOT be able to buy houses, but they SHOULD Have Equal access to an Alts House. This is ridiculous SE. Why did we wait outside of houses HOPING one would open? WHEN WE HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN ACTIVE?! WHAT IS THAT?

I've honestly never been so aggravated at you SE. I EMBRACED the Relic grind, but this is just unfair.

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You understand that what you want is exactly the way things are, right? You can't transfer a house from one character to another, but you can be given money to relinquish the land at a set time so that someone else can be ready to buy it immediately.

They arent tradeable you know it right ?

You just pay the owner to demolish his plot. So its free again.

Didn't realize thats how it worked. Totally should be considered abuse and bannable then.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

Didn't realize thats how it worked. Totally should be considered abuse and bannable then.

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I knew you'd answer that.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

Didn't realize thats how it worked. Totally should be considered abuse and bannable then.

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Why would it.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

How housing was handled was terrible.

People BOUGHT the damn houses and now have party finder FULL of "WTS Small house in Goblet." Houses need to BIND on character, non-Transferable and allow a reclaim option to receive 80% back.

HOUSING SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE TRADED. END OF STORY. ALTS SHOULD NOT be able to buy houses, but they SHOULD Have Equal access to an Alts House. This is ridiculous SE. Why did we wait outside of houses HOPING one would open? WHEN WE HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN ACTIVE?! WHAT IS THAT?

I've honestly never been so aggravated at you SE. I EMBRACED the Relic grind, but this is just unfair.

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housing isn't tradeable.
Those people are basically asking you to pay for them to leave so that it can be re-purchased from the npc housing authority

It's kind of crappy behavior and also requires making alts for the sole purpose of holding the purchases but the super rich usually get there from being exploitative rather than productive in the real world too

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

Didn't realize thats how it worked. Totally should be considered abuse and bannable then.

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Why? It's not different than someone buying up items sold woefully undervalue and putting them right back on the market to gamble a profit.

"Someone Needs (To Be/Get) Fired. (Housing)"

FTFY.

And no. No one deserves to be/get fired over this.

This was (originally) meant to be used as a way to give Free Companies a proper place to gather and do stuff together.
It's not their fault that players would find ways to exploit it (as they usually do).

Not that it matters much anyways, especially since:

A) More plots will be freed up (due to people not returning) soon enough
B) More plots will be introduced in future patches
C) Everyone will finally get their own personal apartment ("mansion" housing)

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Why? It's not different than someone buying up items sold woefully undervalue and putting them right back on the market to gamble a profit.

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Except items can be made or found, housing is limited

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Originally Posted by Exodus-E

"Someone Needs (To Be/Get) Fired. (Housing)"

FTFY.

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Much as Love is Blind, it turns out Rage lacks a comprehensive education in English Grammar.

I'm just going to wait till 3.3 myself. I did a bit of house shopping today but failed to pick up any land. That said my PF only has a single person trying to sell. Plus I think I want to try and go for a Medium block and I don't have enough gill for that yet.

Ill be curious if those who bought out empty blocks will actually manage to sell them. It seems a pretty risky investment as those with huge amounts of gil to burn are likely those who do the things like buying up housing and trying to resell it.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Ill be curious if those who bought out empty blocks will actually manage to sell them. It seems a pretty risky investment as those with huge amounts of gil to burn are likely those who do the things like buying up housing and trying to resell it.

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That and with new housing coming in, and we're going to likely see some more trickling in from demolitions over the next couple months (but not a lot). Doesn't seem a good idea to waste 30mil to get someone to drop a house when if you just wait a few months you can get one for much less.

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Originally Posted by Exodus-E

It's not their fault that players would find ways to exploit it (as they usually do).

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Yes it is, and it's totally preventable. One house per account per server (with alts able to access per server) should be the rule and is the rule in any other game I've played that has housing. Not only that, but players should be paying the housing system rather than other players to buy a house. Makes for a good gold/gil sink. And furthermore, housing in other games I've played becomes available as needed, like wards opening up as demand increases, with prices affordable to pretty much anyone who's reached a certain level, say 50 in this game. I've never seen housing as mishandled as it is in this game.

BF managed to snag the last L in the Mist on our server, hooray! Looking forward to helping him decorate. We've been wanting to upgrade for a while.

Like the poster above me, the only housing resells I've seen are a small in the Goblet and a medium in the Goblet, and the guy selling his medium has been trying to do so for the last week, at least (before reclamations began). It looks like most houses that opened up were bought by FCs, at least on my server. Some smalls went to private homeowners, though.

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Originally Posted by ArcMoon

Yes it is, and it's totally preventable. One house per account per server (with alts able to access per server) should be the rule and is the rule in any other game I've played that has housing. Not only that, but players should be paying the housing system rather than other players to buy a house. Makes for a good gold/gil sink. And furthermore, housing in other games I've played becomes available as needed, like wards opening up as demand increases, with prices affordable to pretty much anyone who's reached a certain level, say 50 in this game. I've never seen housing as mishandled as it is in this game.

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Point.

I suppose that in theory, they expected that people would play nice and respect each other when it comes to buying properties and such.

In practice, however...that was simply unrealistic, due to greed (thus, they should've known better).

Me and a fc mate snagged two houses next to each other for 4.2/4.5M. Should have gone to Goblet first since those took the longest to disappear. I guess it depends on the server.

Anyway, I might have found a new thing to do.

Housing is disgusting right now and Personal Housing SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED when it was not ready to come in the game yet. People on servers have FCs with 50-100 people in them and they have to suffer from not owning an FC house because all the plots on all the wards are full, while there are about 50-60% plots owned by people with personal houses. Changing servers isn't an option for people with an FC like mine with 80 players in it.

Come to Goblin?

I am in Ward 2 and half the houses are on sale.

Smaller server = get a house.

Again..Server transfers aren't possible with FCs that contain 80 players in them..

It seems that people who rage the most are coming from overpopulated servers. Might want to reconsider transfering and building community on new server ?

Why do you guys think everything is guaranteed? Plus buying and selling houses is okay in every mmo I've played with housing.

What if I want to sell my house? What if I'm leaving the game and what to give it to a friend/fc mate who helped me some kind of way?

Get over it, you lost out.

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Originally Posted by Exodus-E

[I]"Someone Needs (To Be/Get) Fired. (Housing)"
A) More plots will be freed up (due to people not returning) soon enough
B) More plots will be introduced in future patches
C) Everyone will finally get their own personal apartment ("mansion" housing)

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You may be one of the most amazing people I have seen on the forums. You really believe those Three points. You also defend people who have failed to implement and manage a system fairly.

Also the whole mansion thing has shit written all over it. You can already tell from comments it has no yards and they have to redevolp the gardening system they have in place to allow for basically will probably be FC rooms. Because I have yet to see anyone with any real skill running the housing system prove that they can do any better with limited instanced housing. Why would it need to be 512? Why are seasonal events planned around a division that can't get their shit together.

The housing market is an active player driven economy. Im sorry you dont like it.

I am currently selling Plots 49-50-51 in the mists

Plot 49 60 mil

plot 50-51 are 40 mil each. These are the best plots in the game. Im sorry you dont like it and I dont either. I however have no choice as I have to turn right around and buy 4 homes behind our FC house in Lavenderbeds for the same price I am being paid for these plots. Call it greedy but its the only option we have to be in the same ward behind our FC house (Plot 11, ward 5 lavenderbeds)

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Originally Posted by Ruenis

It seems that people who rage the most are coming from overpopulated servers. Might want to reconsider transfering and building community on new server ?

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Why is this an acceptable answer. Maybe they should evaluate the resources used on the underpopulated servers. Take away the housing servers for those servers and move them to the populated ones. I don't questions playing with the system in place. I question people like you who defend a company directly or indirectly for failing. You help nothing by redirecting the blame from where it is deserved.

I'm all for selling and buying houses by players, I think it's a neat idea even if the prices are ridiculous.

But, there really should be rules in place for abuses. I heard one FC on my server bought up like 21 houses and are now selling them at ridiculous prices. That's easily abuse and I wish SE would make a statement on that.

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Originally Posted by Exodus-E

[I]"Someone Needs (To Be/Get) Fired. (Housing)"

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Originally Posted by Krylo

Much as Love is Blind, it turns out Rage lacks a comprehensive education in English Grammar.

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I'm still mad!! But that was pretty funny. xD Updated it in the OP. One day, when I recompose the English language in a Galaxy far away, that phrase will become a standard expression. >:I

After a few hours playing FF9 and thinking about stuff, I'm just going to:

1) Ignore my DoL/DoHs. Their only purpose was to make gil to buy a house.
2) Probably take 1 month break soon. (unobtainable content burnout)
3) Maybe spam alex with the hubby for Relic. @.@
4) All you house flippers need to burn in HELL. D:<<< Oh you can read this? Uhh I tried to blend it in! : D

Really hope Ishgard housing makes everyone who has a place elsewhere cry. >:I

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Originally Posted by RafDontDie

I got offered 250m for my large plot that I just bought. I might sell it now

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I use to date the previous owner of your plot before they quit playing. Out of curiosity, I logged onto my alt to see who it was that purchased it. Congrates on being the one.

If only there was a decent way besides RMT to get that much gold from a non-crafter. Its no wonder so many people buy gil.

There is no way to make money in this game.

I'm glad I'm not interested in these plots atm. I really waiting for SE to finally open up ishgardian housing to buy my house. Because that's the only one I truly want. While I watch wiener babies cry over the plots that are out now lol.