A dungeon that drops gear which is useless because it can't be slotted? 1 primal fight where the drop is randomly looted to someone? 3 strongholds with SOME usefull items only if they can be slotted with materia? What else is there? Stats are still useless besides having defense, hp or mp. everything else doesn't seem as strong as it should be. WTB a fixed game before the game tries to charge.
Pay for what?
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10-16-2011, 10:01 AMManafontPay for what?
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10-16-2011, 10:03 AMFated
Hopefully your topic gets locked, there are enough already. Post in the official topic.
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10-16-2011, 10:09 AMnasomi
There isn't an oficial topic
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10-16-2011, 10:10 AMDjeserit
Pay for exclusive content that doesn't HAVE to be developed, but the developers are going to so that they can present a coherent storyline to explain why the world changes so drastically.
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10-16-2011, 10:17 AMTenshiYou might be happiest not playing games in this genre then until they've been out for 3+ years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manafont
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10-16-2011, 10:28 AMJim
Look i would pay up to 50$ a month for this game mostly because I have faith in it and in SE. I've played SE's games for a very long time even before they merged i played both so I am a loyal fan.
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10-16-2011, 10:42 AMChardrizard
God bless your journey here if you thinks only defense, hp or mp are working as intended.
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10-16-2011, 10:53 AMZenaku
I see 1.20 as release for P2P and 2.0 as a big update.
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10-16-2011, 11:09 AMMisteyes
Pay for:
-The servers up until 2.0
-Moderators to deal with problem players (between now and 2.0)
-Patches 1.20, 1.21, and 1.22.
-The one-time storyline leading up to the Seventh Umbral Era.
Why is anyone arguing about this?
If that's not worth your $13/month, then take it elsewhere. Find somewhere you're happy. I really don't understand why so many people are coming on these forums to rage at all us "fanboys" "fangirls" and "white knights" who are deciding to pay (and continuing to post after their message is delivered).
I also don't understand calling people freeloaders for deciding it's not worth their money. -
10-16-2011, 11:44 AMPreypacerDo you really believe what you listed there is all the game offers in the form of content?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manafont
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10-16-2011, 12:06 PMGramul
-Exclusive content that will be gone forever next year.
-Funding FFXIV 2.0
-Story leading to and the Meteor event.
-First hand experience with new features.
-Get at least one job in each Discipline to 50.
-Keep in touch with Linkshell members.
-Provide constructive feedback for FFXIV and the new features so I'll be one of the customers influencing the decisions. -
10-16-2011, 01:20 PMfeint2021
To OP,
If that's your main then you haven't even experienced any of that. Dunno why you're complaining. -
10-16-2011, 01:34 PMviionHe is not complaining at you guys, he is complaining to the devs, and he is entitled to and they even ask us too. He has an opinion and the forum has been made for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misteyes
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10-16-2011, 01:42 PMBearforce100% agreed, why should i pay 12$ subscription to a *unfinished project*?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manafont
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10-16-2011, 01:45 PMBearforcewhiteknights shudders if thier wallets doesnt meet SE standardsQuote:
Originally Posted by viion
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10-16-2011, 01:47 PMBetelgeuzahBecause you like to play the game as is? It's not that difficult. It's either worth it to you or it isn't. If it isn't, move on and stop crying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearforce
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10-16-2011, 01:47 PMfeint2021The beauty is you don't have to :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearforce
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10-16-2011, 01:57 PMstonedall that stuff will be crap when the real game comes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manafont
PAY FOR CRAP IN BOX is what u pay for if u stay. i might be back for 2.0 maybe....meh proly not there is alota games i wana try and SE will lose me once this game starts to cost more than the 80 bucks i already wasted. -
10-16-2011, 01:58 PMstonedhey ur shepard is waiting for u run along b4 u get left behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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10-16-2011, 02:01 PMfeint2021My brain hurts after reading this.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoned
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10-16-2011, 02:04 PMstonedu got a valid point. first 1 i seen by any whiteknight fanboy on these forums. nice job i dont even want to troll u sadly so i wont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramul
but that doesnt meen every1 shares ur opinion or wants to pay for a beta test.... -
10-16-2011, 02:09 PMstonedfixed that for uQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim
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10-16-2011, 02:11 PMstonedno there is not enough. but there is enough sheep trolling them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fated
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10-16-2011, 02:16 PMBearforceiam sorry to hit on your nerve, but thats my opinion and i feel entitled to share what i think in the general discussion forums. if you cant argue then why bother responding me with denial?Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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10-16-2011, 02:56 PMGramulThat's cool. (b'_')bQuote:
Originally Posted by stoned
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You asked why someone would pay for the game, he gave an answer. That's all there is to it. -
10-16-2011, 03:10 PMKajika
It's quite simple. If you are not enjoying the game, you probably shouldn't be playing whether it is free or paid. If you are enjoying it, then it is worth paying for. I can't imagine someone playing a game that is not fun and playing only because it is free.
If you quit because the game is going "p2p", then you probably should have quit long ago. In fact, I think that most of the loss of subscribers, when it goes "p2p", will be people who weren't playing much or having very little fun. -
10-17-2011, 07:38 AMDragonlordDo you have to be sarcastic in every single post u make? I personally dont see a reason to pay full price for a half finished product which was stated by yoshi p himself. Will i stay and pay? I might if there is enough content to keep me intrested. If not i will pay for a month when content is released, then be in-active for a few months in between.Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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10-17-2011, 07:42 AMBetelgeuzahWell, I don't have to, but it's fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonlord
It's pretty funny as well, though, how Yoshida's words are twisted. MMO's always operate under a production plan that spans longer than a year. Any developer could say the same about his MMO, released or unreleased. When you have stuff in the pipes to last for 2 years and only one year's worth of stuff is complete, yes, the product is essentially "half finished"- at least when it comes to the current development plan. -
10-17-2011, 08:00 AMhughesbonuraI'll confess, I logged back in after 1.19... (Been offline from a little after the disappointing release). I totally agree with you in that this game isn't ready to have my cash. I WAS going to play more for the heck of it, but I might as well not even waste my time knowing that they'll start trying to take my precious $13.00.... That's the cost of a bottle of booze that I actually need to drink to be able to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preypacer
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10-17-2011, 08:09 AMEvenstar
Pay for what?
PAY FOR GETTING RID OF ALL THE HATERS AND WHINERS THAT ARE STILL LEVEL 3 AND ACT LIKE THEY KNOW THE GAME. -
10-17-2011, 08:59 AMChainWell excuuuuse them for not having the time to reach your amazing level 23.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evenstar
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10-17-2011, 09:07 AMDragonlordWait how did i twist his words? He didnt say the game is 50% complete? Did i miss something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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10-18-2011, 03:26 AMcatmatoPay for your own game so FFXI can stop supporting it and get some attention.Quote:
Pay for what?
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10-18-2011, 04:40 AMAamesxDavidOfficial or not, there are still plenty of others. There is nothing unique about this thread, it's just more complaining, and would be no more or less relevant under any other complaint thread about subscriptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by nasomi
Here's why I don't understand the subscription complaint:
If this game isn't worth you paying, how is it still worth your time? Why do you even play?
If it isn't worth your time to play, why do you care that other people will be paying to play?
People seem to think there's a fundamental difference between feeling like something is good enough to play, and good enough to pay for. And I know, you've already paid your $50, and the game wasn't what you wanted it to be. Well that happens all the time with single player games, so deal with it - it's not an excuse for you to continue playing for free for a service that's supposed to cost money. You got that for a year. If you still don't like the game, then don't play it. And if you think your feedback is just going to be so much more helpful than everyone who will be paying, maybe you should start a paypal to accept donations for your obvious genius at solving the game's design/technical issues.
You bought this game knowing there would be a subscription fee, so you can obviously afford it. Which means you're refusing to pay on principle. That's fine. Take your principles right out the door with you. -
10-18-2011, 04:45 AMColdbrand
I'll pay them to not instance all dungeons and stop putting out "raids".
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10-18-2011, 04:46 AMPyrix
I'll pay when the game is in a state that makes it actually worthy of being called a proper MMO. As in not as it is right now. Too many things missing or poorly executed.