BLM : need some rotation help

hello,

a friend of mine is having minor issues with her lvl60 rotation.
her ilvl is 170 right now.
when i compair some outher black mages compaird to her. it seems her rotation is kinda wrong.
example she hardly uses fire4 while i see outher blm using it.
i looked up some guides but according to her their "impossible"

anny1 who could be so kind to drop here an nice and easy rotation for her to learn.
manny thanks

She can start off slow before moving on to the more complicating F4 rotation.

The simplest one is:

Blizzard III → Thunder I → Enochian → Fire III → Fire IV → Fire IV → Fire I → Fire IV → Fire IV → Blizzard IV → Blizzard III: Repeat Fire III/I/IV/Blizzard IV until can't refresh enochian anymore(up to about 3 refreshes). This is actually the core rotation when you don't have Sharpcast/Leylines/Convert ready. It's probably the complexity of the opener that is scaring her. No BLM can constantly do the opener because CDs and such.

Doesn't take in account for procs though(TIII:Thundercloud would be tight I think, but I always use Firestarter before going into Blizzard IV), but that's what I used for a while before moving on to the opener. The beauty of the core rotation is you don't need Quelling Strikes, but once she familiarizes herself with the opener, 5-6 Fire IVs in a row are going to rip aggro without it.

thanks for the info.

think she'll be glad to have an more easy rotation then all the complicated things u find on sites

I always use Thunder 2 instead of Thunder 1. Does either or make any difference in the long term?

The 20 extra potency + 3 second timer increase may seem good but when you're racing the Enochian clock, every second matters. T1 is great because of the short cast time and that it shares the proc rate (10%) with the other thunders. The potency/duration loss may seem meaningful, but with the core rotation the 18 timer fits nicely, expiring when you go into ice.

She needs more SS, and needs to practive. She shouldn't be using procs, until she's more comfortable with the core rotation and enocian timer. She should also practice openers. There are a few different ones.

FIREIV is your nuke spell basically and should be used otherwise the dmg will be low. After practice you get the timing right were as enochian does not fall off. Sharpcast is also great to use. Aikaal has a great guide that your friend may find of interest. It is more complex but with practice it is ideally what a blm is looking at in terms of rotation for end game.
I also prefer to Use Thunder 1 over 2 and T3 is not at all used anymore (casting it i mean)
Also to note potency of thundercloud proc would take priority over say a FIREIV because of potency.
SS>Crit> other stats, at least that is what i prefer in hw atm

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Originally Posted by Twilite

The simplest one is:

Blizzard III → Thunder I → Enochian → Fire III → Fire IV → Fire IV → Fire I → Fire IV → Fire IV → Blizzard IV → Blizzard III: Repeat Fire III/I/IV/Blizzard IV until can't refresh enochian anymore(up to about 3 refreshes).

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How do you cast Blizzard IV without casting Blizzard III first? o,Ô
You need to be in Umbral Ice to cast it. So shouldn't it be Blizzard III → Blizzard IV at the end?
Or am I completely stupid right now?

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Originally Posted by Atoli

How do you cast Blizzard IV without casting Blizzard III first? o,Ô
You need to be in Umbral Ice to cast it. So shouldn't it be Blizzard III → Blizzard IV at the end?
Or am I completely stupid right now?

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No you are right, it should be Blizzard III>Blizzard IV, but i am pretty sure its just a typo from Twilite.

F3 > F4 > F4 > F1 > F4 > F4. That's the core rotation they should be fitting into every Astral Fire phase.

You can spice it up with spell speed and cooldowns in your opener, but beginner BLMs should just focus on nailing enochian management.

Other tips:
Always re-apply thunder before Blizz IV, unless you think Enochian will drop off. Ideally refreshing Enochian is the last thing you want to do in Umbral Ice.
Thundercloud procs are a straight dps increase over F4, however you want to avoid clipping the dot by too much (ie. two thundercloud procs back-to-back is a dps loss. You want it to tick 3+ times).
Sharpcast should always be paired with a Fire 1 at the beginning of Astral Fire (F3 > Sharpcast F1)
Ley lines should be used to get the most out of Raging Strikes, and then whenever it's up while you're waiting on RS. Just don't be silly with the placement, it's not an excuse to stand in fire.
I like to open with B3 > T2 > F3. Umbral Ice speeds up the cast of F3 and you'll be at full MP for your opener. But some BLMs don't bother.

My Rotation is more complex but it does more DPS than most rotations I have seen so far. Make sure you position yourself accordingly because moving for even a second or two can throw off the rotation due to the Enochian timer. I open with:

Quelling Strikes→Ley Lines→B3→Thunder→Sharpcast→F3→Enochian→F1→Raging Strikes→F4→F4→F4→F3 Proc→Convert→F4→F4→F4→B3→ Thunder (or T3 Proc) → B4

After B4, while convert, raging strikes and ley lines are on cool down, I just repeat:

F3→F4→F4→F1→F4→F4→B3→T1→B4 (you will have to leave out T1 when repeating this again due to Enochian timer).

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Originally Posted by FaizeD

Just don't be silly with the placement, it's not an excuse to stand in fire.

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It always makes me so sad when I have just drawn my pretty, elaborate circle on the ground and the boss immediately spits some long-lasting AoE on it :(
I have developed the habit of standing on the edge of my circle so I can still use the other edge even with boss AoEs, but that doesn't help at all when some idiot always mistakes my circle for his and wanders into the middle just to drop the AoE aimed at him on MY circle :mad:

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Originally Posted by Bklyn718

My Rotation is more complex but it does more DPS than most rotations I have seen so far. Make sure you position yourself accordingly because moving for even a second or two can throw off the rotation due to the Enochian timer. I open with:

Quelling Strikes→Ley Lines→B3→Thunder→Sharpcast→F3→Enochian→F1→Raging Strikes→F4→F4→F4→F3 Proc→Convert→F4→F4→F4→B3→ Thunder (or T3 Proc) → B4

After B4, while convert, raging strikes and ley lines are on cool down, I just repeat:

F3→F4→F4→F1→F4→F4→B3→T1→B4 (you will have to leave out T1 when repeating this again due to Enochian timer).

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You say it's more complex, but all I'm seeing is that it's what everyone is using, but with added B3 and T1 in the opener. After some quick exceling, it's at best a wash with the other openers with TC proc in the ice phase and a clear loss without. It's also longer, which makes it harder to execute or even downright impossible to do in some fights -- A3S and Thordan come to mind -- unless you get lucky.

e: Slight error. It's better with TC and a long mana tick compared to the normal one. Still makes it too random and long for my tastes.

B3 -> Thunder -> F3 in your opener is nothing more than 2.0 BLM garbage please don't do this.