How will you feel if you pay for a year and the game FLOPS

Many people were -very- upset when they payed for collectors edition of FFXIV and then got a half-done beta of the game that essentially sucked.

So if -you- stay with the game and pay the monthly fee only to have FFXIV 2.0 be a repeat of FFXIV, how will you feel?

Going by history there's a good chance it will happen, especially if they want to release for the PS3 since people may already be pre-ordering ps4's by the release (possibly automatically making FFXIV outdated console wise, especially with all the negative ps3-press from hackings).

So basically if they rush out this new 2.0 and mess it up, are you going to stick with the game for another year while they fix it? Or give up on SE MMOs.

edit: put another way. are you alright with paying for a beta even if the final product has a high chance of failure?

Personally I'll probably be gone.

How will you feel if I tell you that it's only been a matter of hours and I'm sick of the negativity around here already?

If the company was competent in releasing polished content then people wouldn't be negative. The negativity is a direct response to the companies inability to release successful patches. Even this new patch came with the powerleveling exploit which was "intended" until it generated large amounts of outrage.

If they can't even pull off a patch without creating mounds of controversy why would they be able to pull off an entire new version of the game successfully?

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If the company was competent in releasing polished content then people wouldn't be negative.

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Funny. Because in my view, they ARE competent in releasing polished content. THe whole reason this revamp is taking place is to allow them to polish things beyond what they can do with the current systems that were designed poorly before the new team took over.

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If they can't even pull off a patch without creating mounds of controversy

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Other than the "oops" bug that was enabling power leveling to be so easy, I don't see these mounds of controversy. I see a lot of intelligent discussion, and some trolls posting nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

If they can't even pull off a patch without creating mounds of controversy why would they be able to pull off an entire new version of the game successfully?

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Sadly, that's how forum trolls are. They create controversy over every little thing. Most will be leaving once P2P is back, hopefully.

But on topic, I think they won't flop 2.0. Why? Yoshi is at charge this time, and he's done a good job (for me at least) so far.

It already flopped, can only get better from here on out.

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So if -you- stay with the game and pay the monthly fee only to have FFXIV 2.0 be a repeat of FFXIV, how will you feel?

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I'll feel great that I didn't listen to a bunch of fools who have no clue what they are talking about - even if the game does flop.

I've been playing for four months now, I've enjoyed every minute of it, I have no real complaints at this time; but, that's because I think complainers are some of the worst people I've ever met, and I won't miss them if they don't stay. At all.

How about this concept:

Pay the monthly fee for use of the game for that month and enjoy the month. If you no longer are enjoying the game, don't keep paying a monthly fee for a game that is to come (v2.0).

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

If the company was competent in releasing polished content then people wouldn't be negative. The negativity is a direct response to the companies inability to release successful patches. Even this new patch came with the powerleveling exploit which was "intended" until it generated large amounts of outrage.

If they can't even pull off a patch without creating mounds of controversy why would they be able to pull off an entire new version of the game successfully?

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I think its now obvious that they haven't been putting there all into what they have been adding to this version of the game. The content and fixes we have been getting are things that could be put together pretty quickly yet it still takes them forever between patches.

Now we know why. They are making a whole new game to replace this one with. And that has likely been taking up most of their time for the past year. We have been playing a beta test and thats all these patches have been. testing content to see what direction they wanted to go with in version 2.0. I dont think its been their intent to really fix this version for almost a year now, but instead use it as a test for the next version.

Not that im not enjoying the ride we are on, just saying why content updates have been so lackluster.

how i feel if it flops?
i'll move along.
if i'd cry for every € that i've wasted in my live on useless things i'd probably be dry down to the bones haha.
let's start with alcohol and cigarets!

A very large percentage of MMOs fail in their first year. So the reboot would be no different. Move along people, nothing to see here.

How will you feel if Azurymber makes a post and everyone ignores it?

/feelsgoodman

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

Many people were -very- upset when they payed for collectors edition of FFXIV and then got a half-done beta of the game that essentially sucked.

So if -you- stay with the game and pay the monthly fee only to have FFXIV 2.0 be a repeat of FFXIV, how will you feel?

Going by history there's a good chance it will happen, especially if they want to release for the PS3 since people may already be pre-ordering ps4's by the release (possibly automatically making FFXIV outdated console wise, especially with all the negative ps3-press from hackings).

So basically if they rush out this new 2.0 and mess it up, are you going to stick with the game for another year while they fix it? Or give up on SE MMOs.

edit: put another way. are you alright with paying for a beta even if the final product has a high chance of failure?

Personally I'll probably be gone.

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How will we feel if we leave the game and go to ToR and it is Aion all over, How about if GW2 turns out to be a bigger pile of @@@@ then XIV was at launch. How will we feel if we play WoW after this and GW2 causes them to condense down to 2 global servers. How will we feel if we quit this game, and it ends up being the WoW killer in 2.0. How about if the government bans mmos in the US because of the addictive properties and we waste our limited time. Will you feel bad then. All of those are a possible scenario, some more then others obviously.

As for square their track record shows other wise. The largest RPG franchise in history, one of the most successful mmos of all times, a near endless amount of funds to fix the game, and a very very promising future look.

Basically in the end is everyone who says they are quitting really ready to pay for another NA mmo, All of which have failed or rapidly dying shortly after release... sorta a pattern since WoW's release.

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

It already flopped, can only get better from here on out.

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only way SE can go is up

Azury, in all due respect, you could of made this point in your other negative thread.

If, after paying for a year, this game dies then I would have played a game I enjoyed playing for over 2 years and would have no complaints. Most games I play don't last anything like that long.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

If they can't even pull off a patch without creating mounds of controversy why would they be able to pull off an entire new version of the game successfully?

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All patches for all MMO's cause controversy. There is nothing SE could do (and that includes doing nothing) that wouldn't upset someone somewhere. Its just the way things are.