Hello, I was just wondering if I could make a request regarding the Planned Glamours coming to summoners in a future patch.
During a previous live letter some Primal minions were shown (Ifrit, Garuda and Titan)
These Minions look far better and more detailed than the Primal Egi we currently have in game.
My Question is, Would it be possible to make the new summoner glamour as detailed as these minions? I'm not asking to make them tiny and chibi but rather have Garuda Egi look like Garuda at least or
Ifrit Egi look Like Ifrit.
Images are below:
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http://i.imgur.com/QDicAEP.png
http://i.imgur.com/BHUz1vq.png
[Dev Request] Summoner Glamours
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11-26-2015, 11:18 AMVejjiegirl[Dev Request] Summoner Glamours
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11-26-2015, 11:54 AMNestama
Would certainly make SMN's look even less threatening if those became pets. Ifrit is especially the weakest looking of the bunch.
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11-26-2015, 12:17 PMNatashio
Honestly... No. The game has enough chibiness already. Don't need to mess up a job with this kind of stuff.
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11-26-2015, 12:20 PMFevelle
For me they're all better than the current Gummy Bears we have as pets.
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11-26-2015, 12:24 PMAlphaFox
Ifrit honestly looks like a Spyro reject
http://i1.wp.com/www.nerdsonearth.co...5/04/giphy.gif
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11-26-2015, 12:42 PMReaperking386
That ship has sailed.
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11-26-2015, 01:48 PMEulI do want Ifrit as well, but nobody can garden the chilly pepper to craft this :(Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFox
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11-26-2015, 01:48 PMVejjiegirl
I made edits to my question based on the previous few comments.
Someone told me they got the seeds for it from the latest botany venture, worth checking out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eul
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11-26-2015, 01:51 PMBunnyHop
It is a good idea, don't pay attention to nay sayers.
Also this thread was made earlier by several others, including myself, asking SE to make these primal minions as Summoner pets. And I certainly would love them, especially Garuda <3 -
11-26-2015, 05:52 PMnukemind
I just want to use Carbuncle's on my SMN... just got to SMN/SCH today and first it's Ifrit, then Topaz will become Titan, then Emerald will become Garuda... my Carbuncles were to awesome to go :(.
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11-26-2015, 06:42 PMNestamaThey'd need to be given more animations, especially Ifrit. Compared to Egi, the minion barely has any arms and legs (and Ifrit-Egi has a lot of movement with his arms). Garuda could do with a smaller head, too (I personally am not a fan of chibi stuff).Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyHop
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11-26-2015, 06:59 PMYakushiHinata
I am curious to what the Egi glamour will be like aswell, I hope it will be more than just recolored Carbuncles but I do welcome every bit of customization when it comes to my class.
I know the reason they keep telling us that the Egi looks the way they do and there size is to not clutter the screen of glowing summons and it can be distracting.
So thats why I keept thinking, what if Egi's had a new form, like a spectral version of there real form thats kinda see-through ish, just smaller in size, though I'd love to have a full size Ifrit walk after me.
I can only keep dreaming, but a more legit way to give us new Egi's is to let us change the look of Egi, say a Shiva Egi but it does the exact same thing as Garuda, or Ravana to Ifrit, same type of skills as what we have, just different look to make every summoner look more unique in terms of customization to there liking.
I understand the lore behind the Egi is that we summon a fraction of there essence that let us manipulate the element and give it commands and it listens. wouldnt it then be possible from a lore point that, rise in level cap, the summoner is more experienced, more capable at control of aether and energy, therefor giving us the ability to summon a more "complete" more detailed version of the Egi that is still under our control?
We take in Bahamut essence into our very bodies and use his energy for attacks for crying out loud, how is that not proof enough how the summoner has evolved in terms of control of the aether. -
11-26-2015, 07:29 PMdinnertime
I just hope they actually give us more Egi to play with that have unique abilities.
I do want to have those Primal minions as summons though. The Egi we have now are also "chibi" anyway. -
11-26-2015, 07:41 PMmeldon90
I'll just leave this here... don't mind me... just passing by...
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/att...1&d=1085961255 -
11-26-2015, 09:01 PMFeliAikoSMN evolution lore wise is recognising the limitations of Egi as a whole, and instead of spending your own aether transmuting Primal essence into a controllable pet it's far better to just tap into that essence directly and use it to augment your existing attacks while creating new ones. So in that sense, creating a more 'complete' Egi would be taking a step backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by YakushiHinata
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11-26-2015, 09:19 PMMature
No please I like my egis.
What they need to do is to get Titan more dungeon/raid friendly... That egi seems obsolete -
11-26-2015, 09:34 PMZephrey
I don't get all these people and their objections.
Isn't this post specifically for planned GLAMOURS? So... if you don't want to use it you don't have to.
If you want the same default looking Egis, you have now, you're more than welcomed to keep them.
Don't use the glamour if you don't like them.
I personally think the more glamour options for these pets the better, but I do hope they add a "remove glamours" option on settings. The ability to toggle glamours on or off in your settings menu. If you had the glamours on, you can see everyone's glamoured gear/pet glamours. If you had it off, you would only see the default armor/pet glamours. -
11-26-2015, 11:35 PMSoralis
oh gods yes pls SE give us more egis or just skins i don't care and fix the existing ones at that, they are terrible, i mean ffxi is 15 years old and still has better summons than this ffxiv smn, i mean what happened? who had this idea????????
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11-27-2015, 01:57 AMZephreyQuote:
Originally Posted by Yukiko
Someone didn't read the OP. They were asking if the egi's could be as detailed as the minions, and showed pictures of the minions as reference.
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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl
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11-27-2015, 07:56 AMNestamaBecause SE would need to work on making new animations for the 'Minion' pets. Once again, Ifrit would require the most work due to his lack of appendages (he has them, but they're nubs. He has less detail than the Egi).Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephrey
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11-27-2015, 03:27 PMVejjiegirlI'm not asking for the Summoner glamours to look like the egi minions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
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11-27-2015, 03:28 PMZephreyFirst off, OP never said replace the Egi with the minions. She/He said make them as detailed as the minions, in terms of appearance. AKA, not just 1 variant of 1 color. More elaborate pets than the current ones. Right now Egi's now have 1 color template in the same color scheme, and have minimal movements as it is. I hope you're aware that the current animations, for Ifrit, outside of Crimson Cyclone is merely them moving it's arm and a large flash of light animation happens over his body. And Crimson Cyclone is merely the pet "dashing" - Aka flashing for a few moments in one direction then reappearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
Talk about detail, amirite? The same can be said about the other pets, their animations aren't that detailed.
Oh and if they are going to be making glamours, they're going to have to make new animations for the pets as it is otherwise what's the point in glamouring your pet? That being said, I really hope they wouldn't have refereed to it as "glamour" if it was merely a color change of a Egi or an Egi-Reskin(cause you may as well call it dye at this point) I'd be disappointed if they didn't actually attempt to make it a real glamour aspect with animations and all. Side note; on the discussion of minions being Egi's they've already done minions that can do abilities. Look at Verminion mini-bosses. I'm pretty sure if they wanted to add "animations" they could do it pretty easily.
Honestly, what, in your opinion, do you think glamouring a pet would entail? Just the same exact Egi with a different texture added to it? -
11-27-2015, 04:57 PMNestama
Minions aren't exactly a good example to use, when you could easily say "is it possible for SE to make SMN pets as detailed as the SCH pet?" I'm well aware of Ifrits animation and the minion has a lack of arms. That was my main argument on it (and the lack of detail comment I made was that the Ifrit minion is less detailed than the Egi, something all chibis suffer).
In my opinion, while I would have normally been fine with a SMN glamour system (letting you choose whether to have Shiva-Egi out instead of Ifrit-Egi, or even a Carbuncle), at the moment I would prefer SE to focus on making more PvE content that remains relevant from the start of its patch life to the beginning of the next (and not make it a boring mess). -
11-27-2015, 09:38 PMBigcat9715Exactly! I was thinking the same thing people are so quick to dismiss any idea that's not from the dev. I have a great idea on how to make red mage fill like a hybrid of black mage and Dragoon, but I never posted it because the community has a hard time accepting anything new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephrey
But back on topic it's sad that the minions look better then then actual egi's. The garuda minion actual looks like garuda now that's just sad. So yea SE please make this happen you can just reuse the current egi animation. -
11-27-2015, 09:43 PMKathryn
As a person who mains SMN I cannot wait for these Egi Glamours and any idea's including the OP's are more than welcome.
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11-27-2015, 11:25 PMBunnyHopI find this funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
Asking SE for a complete (new) beast tribe race is OK, but asking them to fix Summoner pets - which is already in game - is too much work for SE :/
As long as YOU are pleased then it's ok right?
Others cannot ask for the things THEY want, because suddenly SE would have much more work to do... (And we totally don't pay them for it, right?)
Amazing logic there. -
11-28-2015, 12:46 AMReaperking386
I don't agree with having detailed Smn pets. Egi's exist because you summon a sliver of power from Primals to assist you in battles. They take that incomplete form to show you that. Anything more detailed than that creates lore problems and quite possibly lag issues.
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11-28-2015, 05:48 AMBigcat9715I always hated this excuse, because it never makes sense. The sliver of power stolen from the Primals would look alot like the Primals then the Egi's we have now, if they were following the "lore." But let's face it is SE still following lore when it comes to Summoner? I remember reading some where that Summoner's can only have a max of 3 pets because too many would cause them to go crazy, but we're about to get new pets in the Form of glamours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaperking386
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11-28-2015, 08:09 AMNestamaNote how I said "at the moment I would prefer SE making more PvE content." This implies I'd prefer that more so than a playable beastman race (while it would be nice, considering I've only been logging in at least an hour a day or less, it would be pointless. PvE/playable content in general > new race/glamours).Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyHop
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11-28-2015, 08:39 AMZephreyLike I said before, I do hope they add a "remove glamours" option on settings. The ability to toggle other players glamours on or off in your settings menu. If you had the glamours on, you can see everyone's glamoured gear/pet glamours. If you had it off, you would only see the default armor/pet glamours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaperking386
They already said they're working on this. They already said they're going to try to add a glamour system to this. Like it or not, they're working on it. Wanting something else isn't going to change the fact they're currently looking into adding this. So, what's wrong with suggesting things for the content they are already planning on working on/or already working on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
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11-28-2015, 08:51 AMEulIf you say about lore, do you remember while on level 50 HW quest Y'mhitra curious why we cannot use Leviathan, Ramuh, and Shiva right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaperking386
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11-28-2015, 09:04 AMExodus-EThis was answered by Y'mhitra during the quest "I Could Have Tranced All Night" (Lv.58 SMN quest).Quote:
Originally Posted by Eul
And I quote:
"(...) When you summon an avatar, you draw upon your body's reservoir of aether to grant life and form to what is known as an arcane entity─that much we already knew.
I had, however, overlooked the simple fact that our aetheric reserves are finite─thus the magnitude of egi that you are able to summon is limited by the extent of your own life force. Simply put, if the egi is too powerful, then the summoning fails...
But do not despair! The summoners of Allag devised a method by which one might circumvent this intrinsic limitation.
Rather than attempt to summon a separate, physical manifestation of certain egi, the most accomplished mages discovered that far less aether was required to infuse themselves with the essence of a primal's power.
The technique by which a summoner would achieve this heightened state was known as a “trance.” (...)"
So...basically we don't have enough spare aether within us to create yet another independent Egi (ie. Summon IV).
But she didn't say anything about altering what we already have...
Especially since, after completing the SMN quests, she suspects there are still some other secrets regarding summoning that are yet beyond our grasp.