Cartoony art style, hell no we won't.... well actually

I initially posted about how the Ifrit weapons did not fit in with the rest of the ffxiv decor. It looks like they are dong a stylization revamp, and after spending the past hour reading up on everything.... BRING IT! You have my full support and faith once again. So what if it's not the same game, or doesn't look the same?

Every single person I have tried to play with me has quit. That tells me that my opinion is biased (FFXIV Hopeful). At some point when the ship is sinking you need to find another ship and stop patching the old one.

Bring the new artwork, bring the crazy weapons and gear, bring my friends back to me its time to level up bitches!

If they make the game more cartoon like then i think a lot of ppl would quit they don't have to lose how the game look just make it look better.

i was actually gonna look up one of those old threads were they say ifrit weapons dont match the current game.lol, well look what happened, lol.

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Originally Posted by Irondude

I initially posted about how the Ifrit weapons did not fit in with the rest of the ffxiv decor. It looks like they are dong a stylization revamp, and after spending the past hour reading up on everything.... BRING IT! You have my full support and faith once again. So what if it's not the same game, or doesn't look the same?

Every single person I have tried to play with me has quit. That tells me that my opinion is a little a biased (FFXIV Hopeful). At some point when the ship is sinking you need to find another ship and stop patching the old one.

Bring the new artwork, bring the crazy weapons and gear, bring my friends back to me its time to level up bitches!

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Change scary.

Giant change. Not so scary.

People are funny, but I do agree. I feel like the new style is closer to the Vagrant Story / Final Fantasy Tactics style I've been waiting to see emerge from Akihiko Yoshida's involvement in this project.

If it looks like the concept art, I'm on board. I think it looks great.

If it looks and feels as different as XIV was from what was promised, then I'll be pretty pissed.
Fool me once, you know?

the game is going to match the weapons ^^ again restating. As long as they are on track for a final look and feel you have my support until its released.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...light=cartoony

There is nothing in any FFXIV concept art or screen shots that has ever made me think that this game is going towards a cartoony art style. It baffles me that people can somehow think that having more stylized weapons and monsters is anywhere close to cartoony.

By all accounts, FF games prior to the PS2 era were a crap ton more cartoony than FFXIV.

I like to know is the game look going to change? because i really enjoy the look of the game right now it look very real and nice i don't want it to look ithink cartoony is the only word i can put to show what i mean,.

Please try to keep your feet on the ground with the concept art though, as it is just that right now, a concept.

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Originally Posted by Vahzl

Please try to keep your feet on the ground with the concept art though, as it is just that right now, a concept.

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ya but what worrying me is this

The new graphics engine will cause certain objects to display differently than they do in the current version.
Because of this, we will allow all current players the opportunity to re-customize the race, gender, and
appearance of their characters upon the implementation of the new engine.

and this

FINAL FANTASY XIV boasts some of the highest quality graphics amongst all
current-generation MMORPGs. Unfortunately, extremely high-end PCs are required
in order to experience those graphics
Our new graphics engine will allow us to maintain a high level of graphic quality while
allowing us to optimize the game for play on the PlayStation®3 system.

It seem like there new engine would change the look of the game.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

ya but what worrying me is this

The new graphics engine will cause certain objects to display differently than they do in the current version.
Because of this, we will allow all current players the opportunity to re-customize the race, gender, and
appearance of their characters upon the implementation of the new engine.

and this

FINAL FANTASY XIV boasts some of the highest quality graphics amongst all
current-generation MMORPGs. Unfortunately, extremely high-end PCs are required
in order to experience those graphics
Our new graphics engine will allow us to maintain a high level of graphic quality while
allowing us to optimize the game for play on the PlayStation®3 system.

It seem like there new engine would change the look of the game.

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i guess my argument is yeah so?

Yes, of course the graphics will change with a new engine because you're changing how objects are rendered. But that does not mean that the art direction will change too.

concept art gives me goosebumps!

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

ya but what worrying me is this

The new graphics engine will cause certain objects to display differently than they do in the current version.
Because of this, we will allow all current players the opportunity to re-customize the race, gender, and
appearance of their characters upon the implementation of the new engine.

and this

FINAL FANTASY XIV boasts some of the highest quality graphics amongst all
current-generation MMORPGs. Unfortunately, extremely high-end PCs are required
in order to experience those graphics
Our new graphics engine will allow us to maintain a high level of graphic quality while
allowing us to optimize the game for play on the PlayStation®3 system.

It seem like there new engine would change the look of the game.

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Hey Zenaku, RELAX okay? There is absolutely nothing in any of the pdf files that even give the slightest appearance of a cartoony change in appearance. Things are only looking BETTER. People worry too much geez. When I see these upcoming changes, I finally see what I've been waiting for in a FINAL FANTASY mmo since I first heard of FFXIV.

I for one like the concept art. I also don't see where you guys are seeing the cartoony look. I mean WOW, and um War3 are the first games that come to mind when i hear anyone talk about cartoony looks. I'm pleased with how the concept art looks, and I'm excited to see what the final product will be.

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Originally Posted by Zaireeka2025

Hey Zenaku, RELAX okay? There is absolutely nothing in any of the pdf files that even give the slightest appearance of a cartoony change in appearance. Things are only looking BETTER. People worry too much geez. When I see these upcoming changes, I finally see what I've been waiting for in a FINAL FANTASY mmo since I first heard of FFXIV.

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Note: Zenaku has been staunchly against all changes made and proposed by the dev team. He's always gloom and doom about FFXIV's future.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Note: Zenaku has been staunchly against all changes made and proposed by the dev team. He's always gloom and doom about FFXIV's future.

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someone make him a time machine so he can keep living in September 2010 *shudders*

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Note: Zenaku has been staunchly against all changes made and proposed by the dev team. He's always gloom and doom about FFXIV's future.

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unlike the rest of people who does not even play the game and troll on the forums i'm a player just like you and i have the right to against any changes made to the game that what the forums are made for. If the game look better then it's fine but if it change the look too what that picture display then it would lose what i love about the game.

Once i read and talk to a few people i starting to agree that addon,servers party are all good ideas for casual players and would not even mess with my gameplay so i can care less sometime i overlook something so my bad for that.

And everyone else who quote me i hope your right i hope the game still look the same i don't want it too change to the point that look of the game change. Even if they have too for lower end pc at least allow the rest of us who running the game fine still have the same type of look.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

unlike the rest of people who does not even play the game and troll on the forums i'm a player just like you and i have the right to against any changes made to the game that what the forums are made for. If the game look better then it's fine but if it change the look too what that picture display then it would lose what i love about the game.

Once i read and talk to a few people i starting to agree that addon,servers party are all good ideas for casual players and would not even mess with my gameplay so i can care less sometime i overlook something so my bad for that.

And everyone else who quote me i hope your right i hope the game still look the same i don't want it too change to the point that look of the game change. Even if they have too for lower end pc at least allow the rest of us who running the game fine still have the same type of look.

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Don't worry Zen, it will all be okay. SE has Akihiko Yoshida, right? Life is too short to worry so much.

Have you guys bothered to look at the actual screen shots of the new stuff? The art direction isn't changing at all.

I disagree the gear, weapons, and new area designs have a lot more personality. There is a freaking mog on top of a staff...

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Originally Posted by Irondude

I disagree the gear, weapons, and new area designs have a lot more personality. There is a freaking mog on top of a staff...

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They may have more life, personality, zest, what-have-you, but it's still the same art style.

Think of it as right now we are living in the industrial revolution age when everything is dusty, brown, and kind of just blah. In 2.0 we'll be living in modern times, when things look more colorful and fun.

Two different scenarios with the same art style.

The picture of the UI concept made me want to squeal.

But I'm at work, and I had to control myself.

It was very difficult.

Screw the Cartoon look overall, Go for the more Gothic and Dark Concept Sceenshot style it is so the way we need to go. (An less fat weapons, but the other primals on a diet SE plz! )

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Originally Posted by miqokini

Have you guys bothered to look at the actual screen shots of the new stuff? The art direction isn't changing at all.

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Ya that what i was looking at and thought yes they did not change the look of overall game but when it say:

The new graphics engine will cause certain objects to display differently than they do in the current version.
Because of this, we will allow all current players the opportunity to re-customize the race, gender, and
appearance of their characters upon the implementation of the new engine.

But it say only certain objects so i don't think it be overall look so i hope SE don't make it look like in the picture of the UI and such.

from the tiny screenshots and the big one, it just seems like the graphics wont look as
'rigid' and im sure that it's easier for them to have people remake their characters with
the new game then to transfer that as well. Also gives people a chance to change if they wanted.
I honestly don't think that 'because itll look kinda different' is there real reason.
just imho.

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Originally Posted by VeranRamaden

from the tiny screenshots and the big one, it just seems like the graphics wont look as
'rigid' and im sure that it's easier for them to have people remake their characters with
the new game then to transfer that as well. Also gives people a chance to change if they wanted.
I honestly don't think that 'because itll look kinda different' is there real reason.
just imho.

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ya i'm just worry i really love how rich the game look i know there a lot of copy/paste but the overall game look very nice.

Some people have suggested that the new graphics engine is a version of DICE's Frostbite engine. (The first Frostbite, as in the one used in Bad Company 2)

Honestly? I would not be surprised if they went to a third party graphics engine. But if it turns out to be Luminous, let's hope they do a good job of it.

I was initially concerned the overstylization would clash with the rest of the world. But sense they're adding more of that sort of thing, I think it blends well.

Moogle weapons still look cheesy as hell though.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I was initially concerned the overstylization would clash with the rest of the world. But sense they're adding more of that sort of thing, I think it blends well.

Moogle weapons still look cheesy as hell though.

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They're supposed to be cheesy~

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Originally Posted by Irondude

Every single person I have tried to play with me has quit. That tells me that my opinion is biased (FFXIV Hopeful). At some point when the ship is sinking you need to find another ship and stop patching the old one.

Bring the new artwork, bring the crazy weapons and gear, bring my friends back to me its time to level up bitches!

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I see you are on Wutai. I'm not..near your level but if you wanna go kill stuff I'm down for it. I can never find anyone on either. Granted I don't have a lot of time to play at the moment..but yeah.

Bring on the change.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

They're supposed to be cheesy~

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Deep down, I know that.

Glad to know you found out kicking and screaming before you even know what the farg is going on is a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

Glad to know you found out kicking and screaming before you even know what the farg is going on is a bad thing.

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I'm not really the type to kick and scream...well, not kick at least.

That concept picture (with the Chimera battle) looks way more dark than anything, hell I'm sure if you showed that picture and a current XIV picture to a museum painting curator and asked him "Which of these would fall into a 'cartoon' genre?" I'm sure he would pick the current XIV, there is nothing really dark (besides the torrential rain weather) currently in the game; oh and kindaMor Dhona...

I like the changes put in thus far and will continue to watch and play as the story unfolds, I just wish there was a way for SE to make the old Eorzea stay alive (just make it smaller; and condense all the story in the 1-20 level range) so new players can experience the roll over to this post-calamity Eorzea. (A similar way that Guild Wars 1 went from peaceful castle to destroyed and barren lands at the beginning of the game)