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10-14-2011, 05:49 PM
Vahzl

Final Fantasy V2.0 - Discussion Thread

I am speechless right now at this announcement:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/teaser/

The PDF's at the bottom have me shaking with excitement.

This is not a patch, or an update, this a totally new game!

Discuss.
10-14-2011, 05:54 PM
Kaida

I like it, I wish this was what we got in the first place.
10-14-2011, 06:05 PM
Alerion

I have never been so impressed with SE as I am right now. With the Final Fantasy name on the line they seemingly aren't going to settle for passable. If these radical changes require my monthly subscription I'll be glad to pay it.
10-14-2011, 06:08 PM
Crevox

Completely disappointed. I hope they rethink this, but honestly, they won't.
10-14-2011, 06:09 PM
Starlord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crevox

Completely disappointed. I hope they rethink this, but honestly, they won't.

Dislike!

/10 Char
10-14-2011, 06:10 PM
Denmo

This looks amazing, and completely took me from left field. I'm still letting 1.19 sink in, and now this??

I just want to take the time to say THANK YOU Bayohne and the community team for staying up so late translating this!!!
10-14-2011, 06:10 PM
Gramul

I am really, really, excited about everything I'm seeing and reading.
10-14-2011, 06:14 PM
Zenaku

Look like it becoming a wow-clone great job yoshi-p at making a final fantasy game into wow.
10-14-2011, 06:16 PM
GreatLeviathan

When reading that i had a gamegasm!!!!
Wish i could stay unemployed for the next few years to play this lol :D
Love it!!
10-14-2011, 06:17 PM
Malakhim

I guess one of my biggest worries(which isn't that big at all) would be what are they going to be doing with all the content relying on current zones(dungeons, hamlet defense, etc.)? I would imagine that they're not taking a wrecking ball to ALL of the zones, as that would probably have an adverse effect on said content.

Things I'm most excited about personally are the Floating Colosseum by Limsa(people will FINALLY flock out of Ul'dah!), the Frontline battles and Free Companies and FINALLY Sahagin and Leviathan making their appearances! I crave more info. Hard to believe they were sneaking this thing around the office.

It's a brave new world.
10-14-2011, 06:17 PM
GreatLeviathan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenaku

Look like it becoming a wow-clone great job yoshi-p at making a final fantasy game into wow.

Do you have brains ?
This game is already better then the world of lowlifes...
I mean come one are you blind at how ugly wow is ?
Silkroud is older and looks better then wow.
10-14-2011, 06:17 PM
LuciBlack

[SIZE="5"]This is the single most important piece of information that was just given to us about V2.0:
Character data and progress for players already playing the PC version will also be preserved, allowing those players to continue using their in-game avatars.[/SIZE]
10-14-2011, 06:18 PM
Arkenshal

Still waiting for a moogle slave to look after my house.
10-14-2011, 06:18 PM
XxOstiaxX

The moment i saw the image with the battle going, i instantly saw wow, just prettier graphics lol
10-14-2011, 06:24 PM
leomax

Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine they would revamp this game on a new engine WOW.

Looking forward to 2013, happy to pay my subscription fees.
10-14-2011, 06:27 PM
DarkWind666

Have I missed an entry for making party forming easier?

Really looking forwards to the changes, as far off as they are.
10-14-2011, 06:29 PM
Bobjohnson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malakhim

I guess one of my biggest worries(which isn't that big at all) would be what are they going to be doing with all the content relying on current zones(dungeons, hamlet defense, etc.)? I would imagine that they're not taking a wrecking ball to ALL of the zones, as that would probably have an adverse effect on said content.

Things I'm most excited about personally are the Floating Colosseum by Limsa(people will FINALLY flock out of Ul'dah!), the Frontline battles and Free Companies and FINALLY Sahagin and Leviathan making their appearances! I crave more info. Hard to believe they were sneaking this thing around the office.

It's a brave new world.

All the current content will be gone in 2.0. None of what we are playing now will be replayable. It says so in the pdf files several times.

My idea is that the moon will hit Eorzea and change it forever with 2.0. It seems like right now we are just playing a prequel, story wise.
10-14-2011, 06:31 PM
Aion

heck,dont care if its wow like ff xi like, as long as it is pretty, fun and exciting to play, I will play this clone!!!!
10-14-2011, 06:33 PM
Tenshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan

I mean come one are you blind at how ugly wow is ?
Silkroud is older and looks better then wow.

I find the WoW comparisons to be remarkable. They're in the same genre, yeah, but WoW wasn't even particularly good looking at its release. I, for one, have never found characters composed of wooden blocks to be appealing.
10-14-2011, 06:33 PM
Sehro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenaku

Look like it becoming a wow-clone great job yoshi-p at making a final fantasy game into wow.

we will not be seeing u when we start to pay fees right?
10-14-2011, 06:34 PM
Teknoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crevox

Completely disappointed. I hope they rethink this, but honestly, they won't.

The UI looks like FFXII + FFXIII and a bit of XIV. Wash off the disappointment. Even then its just concept art. All the proposed ideas actually sound great.

And the battle itself looks like the CG opening to Final Fantasy IV DS/PSP.
10-14-2011, 06:34 PM
Isaaru

Too much info to read, need to continue when I wake up lol

The pictures are amazing though!
10-14-2011, 06:36 PM
whoopeeragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobjohnson

All the current content will be gone in 2.0. None of what we are playing now will be replayable. It says so in the pdf files several times.

My idea is that the moon will hit Eorzea and change it forever with 2.0. It seems like right now we are just playing a prequel, story wise.

I only saw that the storyline will be changed to something new after the Seventh Umbral Era storyline. I haven't seen anything about current content being gone. o.o

Certainly, making the Ifrit battle unplayable will be stupid. It's really only the story that will get removed.
10-14-2011, 06:38 PM
Vahzl

Just gonna say it here too, called this when I mentioned "The only way this game will ever be a success is through a total engine redesign, game rebuild and complete re-release".

You are WELCOME everyone >_> :D
10-14-2011, 06:41 PM
Buttons

I am really excited. The concept art is gorgeous. :D
10-14-2011, 06:53 PM
OMEGA_HACK

One word: SUMMONING!

Woot we'll be able to summon the primals we defeat in free companies!? A roaming Odin that gets stronger as the day passes!? Wowie what a crazy rush of information and quite frankly breathtakingly beautiful concept arts and screen shots!

Anyone else notice in the picture of the two headed dragon there is a chocobo there in the battle without a rider? Wonder whats that about...

Also the bard concept is different...no bow...they changing that? good imo.

Looks like they are truly getting rid of the "in a cave in the forest" feel in Black Shroud, thank god as well.

If you haven't noticed I'm pretty /psyched and cant wait!
10-14-2011, 07:00 PM
Aion

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

One word: SUMMONING!

Woot we'll be able to summon the primals we defeat in free companies!? A roaming Odin that gets stronger as the day passes!? Wowie what a crazy rush of information and quite frankly breathtakingly beautiful concept arts and screen shots!

Anyone else notice in the picture of the two headed dragon there is a chocobo there in the battle without a rider? Wonder whats that about...

Also the bard concept is different...no bow...they changing that? good imo.

Looks like they are truly getting rid of the "in a cave in the forest" feel in Black Shroud, thank god as well.

If you haven't noticed I'm pretty /psyched and cant wait!

it is a TRANSFORMABLE bow....
10-14-2011, 07:14 PM
babycakin

So "Meteor" is gonna hit Eorzea and ACTUALLY completely change the course of the ENTIRE GAME. This so reminds me of FFVI World of Balance and World of Ruin lol
10-14-2011, 07:18 PM
Vaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by babycakin

So "Meteor" is gonna hit Eorzea and ACTUALLY completely change the course of the ENTIRE GAME. This so reminds me of FFVI World of Balance and World of Ruin lol

They might as well call it FFXIV: Cataclysm at this point. Personally, I think their hand was forced and other than the money aspect of it, there is way too much PR nowadays about new MMOs coming out and all their fancy updates. FFXIV has a really bad stigma attached to it currently so they had to do something to get the PR train rolling.

Other than this thread, the forums are so negative it's embarrassing.
10-14-2011, 07:21 PM
babycakin

@Vaer I do agree with you about the PR. With all these other MMOs coming out, Square Enix had to do something this drastic to stay in the playing field. I mean this is alot to take in so hopefully some peeps will have 2nd opinions on it before critisizing off the bat. I, myself, am too stunned to give my take on it :O
10-14-2011, 07:24 PM
Lamentor

This was a huge statement from Square Enix. Sounds to me like they're challenging every other MMORPG by saying, "We will have the best MMO out, so everyone else better be prepared to lose!" That's what I got from this... and I love it! The game is great right now... and it's going to be even more amazing in another year!
10-14-2011, 07:27 PM
Vaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamentor

This was a huge statement from Square Enix. Sounds to me like they're challenging every other MMORPG by saying, "We will have the best MMO out, in about a year or two so everyone else better be prepared to lose!" That's what I got from this... and I love it! The game is great right now... and it's going to be even more amazing in another year!

This is going to compete with their Dragon Quest X Online thing, too, at that point. Pretty sure they are not going to make the same mistake with that game.
10-14-2011, 07:28 PM
Rinsui

Incredible... No matter whether you like or dislike the new screenshots; it is stunningly evident they *rally* meant what they were saying when they announced they would not rest until they have changed the whole core of the game.

We were playing a beta then, after all.

...

Speechless.
10-14-2011, 07:31 PM
Madruk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenaku

Look like it becoming a wow-clone great job yoshi-p at making a final fantasy game into wow.

How dare they implement ease of use mechanics in this day and age!
10-14-2011, 07:35 PM
Fear

This looks amazing!

Only 1 thing has me worried, on the roadmap it says "REBOOT PHASE", I HOPE this means changing over of server systems and not wiping our character data.

But omg this looks f**k**g sweet and OMG the new UI and game engine looks amazing....
10-14-2011, 07:57 PM
Lamentor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fear

This looks amazing!

Only 1 thing has me worried, on the roadmap it says "REBOOT PHASE", I HOPE this means changing over of server systems and not wiping our character data.

But omg this looks f**k**g sweet and OMG the new UI and game engine looks amazing....

Except Yoshida-san already said at least 3 times that our character data will not be wiped. Also, it was stated that we will be able to transfer our character data and progress in the info released today.
10-14-2011, 07:58 PM
Bobjohnson

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

I only saw that the storyline will be changed to something new after the Seventh Umbral Era storyline. I haven't seen anything about current content being gone. o.o

Certainly, making the Ifrit battle unplayable will be stupid. It's really only the story that will get removed.

From the post itself under the title "Conclusion of the Unbilled Period and Commencement of Subscription Billing":

"Needless to say, with the onset of the subscription-based billing system, operation and development of the game will proceed, and updates will continue to be released regularly as they have been. Between now and release of the new FINAL FANTASY XIV, we will do as much as possible by way of fine-tuning the game and adding new content. Our focus will be on the theme of a story that can only be experienced in the here and now, and the dramatic changes to Eorzea will be incorporated into that storyline. Each update will deliver an unprecedented and unrepeatable game experience. For those of you continuing to play, I promise that the release of these updates and the eventual transition to the new FINAL FANTASY XIV will both come smoothly and seamlessly. "

It more than implies to me that all the current content will be removed in favor of a post cataclysmic world due to meteor. I'm sure that Ifrit and all the primals that they are currently adding will be in the new world in some way or another, but it seems to me that it won't be the same battle or cut-scenes leading up to them as they are now.

All of the information that they gave us makes it seem like the current game that we are playing will basically become back story once 2.0 launches, and I'm more than ok with that.
10-14-2011, 07:59 PM
Skyrant_Kangaroomouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahzl

I am speechless right now at this announcement:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/teaser/

The PDF's at the bottom have me shaking with excitement.

This is not a patch, or an update, this a totally new game!

Discuss.

That's why i don't think i will pay for the old game. IT's just not worth it.
10-14-2011, 08:02 PM
buritoslicer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahzl

I am speechless right now at this announcement:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/teaser/

The PDF's at the bottom have me shaking with excitement.

This is not a patch, or an update, this a totally new game!

Discuss.

I cannot contain my excitement to the progress this game has planned to make. Seriously guys, the 2.0 screenshot is sweet! I can't wait to grow with the game!
10-14-2011, 08:04 PM
Bobjohnson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyrant_Kangaroomouse

That's why i don't think i will pay for the old game. IT's just not worth it.

I like the content that's currently in the game. So with that I'll pay purely for the content that they are adding to the current version of the game that won't be there in 2.0.

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