I remember the old times of FFXI in which, on most Japanese message boards, every discussion about the worldwide servers of the game ended up with an overwhelming majority of Japanese players expressing their dislike about being "forced" to play with us westerners. There were exceptions, but the average opinion was most definitely negative.
At the moment there is an extensive thread on the Japanese forum on the same topic. I stopped in to read, expecting similar results to the ones I saw in the past, but I was surprised.
While there are still a lot of posts that express a preference for separate servers, it's not nearly as overwhelming as before. While I didn't poll sixteen pages of thread completely, I would dare say that the majority (while not overwhelming) is in favor of the idea of sharing the servers with us.
I found it refreshing, and decided to share to thin down a little of the negativity hovering around here :D
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03-12-2011, 03:30 PMAbriaelAn interesting discovery. Japanese players like us more than they used to.
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03-12-2011, 03:41 PMGrit
Glad to hear it!
We know how obnoxious we can be. But that's never going to change, so they'll have to learn to like it! =P -
03-12-2011, 03:56 PMgifthorse
Pfft, as if we care what they think.
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03-12-2011, 03:59 PMAbriaelYou may not care, but you should talk for yourself. Considered the fact that I have to play with them (and enjoy to), I tend to care about what they think about the possibility. I'm quite sure i'm not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by gifthorse
No, scrap that, I know that for a fact, so you may wat to replace that "we" with "I". Pluralis maiestatis is way out of fashion. -
03-12-2011, 04:11 PMgifthorse
Obviously I was doing an impression of a typical ethnocentric westerner, duh.
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03-12-2011, 04:16 PMGath
The Japanese are more respectful to a persons right to be a person than Westerners. It is someones attitude and "Karma" that they produce that makes the Japanese hate or like us.
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03-12-2011, 04:19 PMgifthorseHahaha, "the japanese". They're not a separate species omg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gath
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03-12-2011, 04:24 PMZenaku
It seem the Japanese are more into Cross server then it was back in the days of FFXI. I knew a Japanese which dislike playing with Japanese he found them slow and boreding he hang out with me and my gf each day and we level together. But there a lot of Japanese who dislike playing with us and we copy/paste and see that they really don't like us in there party.
I think for the most parts the Japanese that understand ENG would invite to a party vs a Japanese who does not know ENG. It's nice to know that the Japanese is becoming more likely to invite us then before. This is a game and we should get along matter if we not from the same part of the world. -
03-12-2011, 04:24 PMGathI never said they were. When I said The Japanese, I meant just that. Australians, English, Norwegians, Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by gifthorse
Just a way to mention a big group of people in a whole. -
03-12-2011, 05:17 PMKilta_Firelotus
From my understanding, they don't like how westerners act. More so Americans. Americans can be very racist and were. They insulted the jp player base when they got a chance to. Like the NA laught at the jp's wanting other to ask b4 checking since their check message was a tad on the >.> "the fraq why you peeping at me". I never had an issue with the jp player base. I partied with them and try to respected how they were. They prob dislike when we use auto translation to say dirty stuff and I don't blame them.
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03-12-2011, 05:22 PMPeregrine
I don't think we have a single jp NM team on wutai and English speakers dominate the xivpro lists. Perhaps those who do play are disproportionately okay with combined servers, and that culture centricity wil increase with the ps3 release. Also keep in mind that in xi we were added to their game layer. In this one they started with us. I don't think there are enough jp players to mount a jp only response.
Unfortunately I doubt their opinions of us actually changed, and it's just a different type of demographic posting. -
03-12-2011, 05:24 PMZenakuThat can go two ways Japanese can be very racist and mean with there words i know know how many times me and my gf been called names by the Japanese player base some of them think they know how to play the game better then anyone else so they just stay with there own ppl. Same goes with the Australians who dislike Americans and calling us names but i guess that was just the LS i was in. I'm cuban so i can't speak for myself when my own ppl are very racist to gays and non cuban black ppl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus
I just hope we can get pass all our differences and play the game then just slip the game by where you live. I know there a lot of NA,JP,EU, linkshell poping around which does have EU,JP in it so thats a start.
At the end it's going to be down to the Language problem too we have a system we can talk to each other then what we have in ffxiv and Language Tools -
03-12-2011, 05:26 PMPeppinoTuna
Oh don't give me that, people, I know countless Asians that are astonishingly racist.
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03-12-2011, 05:26 PMVlaude
Japanese people are the only ones who talk to me on this game :(
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03-12-2011, 05:33 PMNephera
The translator does its job pretty well, and they're fun to play with.
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03-12-2011, 05:41 PMPeppinoTuna
I'd like to know which thread is in question, that the OP discusses.
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03-12-2011, 05:41 PMKilta_FirelotusI just did. That was right from a jp player from ffxi.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeppinoTuna
I know jp can be racist for sake of being racist nearly every race is racist.
Like i read in a newspaper several mnths ago warning mothers of a possible chinese american paranting book out. Pretty much the chinese american mother who wrote it feels american mothers are bad moms.
That we don't raise our kids right.
Pretty much stating always be harsh and strict, only do schooling that will benifit them in the future. Like only a few music classes, nothing silly like drama, and only a select few sports. Going as far as borderline child abuse saying put it so if your kid say can't learn a piano peice in a certain time frame they can't get a drink use the restroom untill they learned it.
And also said never praise your kids, and feel free to insult them if they don't look how they should, like calling them fat or ugly or a pig or worst. -
03-12-2011, 05:45 PMAbriaelhttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%84%E3%81%A6Quote:
Originally Posted by PeppinoTuna
This one.
*sighs* I should have know a thread like this would have seen some sour entries... Sorry. -
03-12-2011, 05:46 PMPeregrine
This thread will self-destruct in....
Where are we goin with this? This can not end well. -
03-12-2011, 05:48 PMAbriaelIn my limited defense, it's 10 AM and I didn't sleep the night. I seriously should have known better than posting this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peregrine
Sad thing is that I wanted to share a bit of positiveness. -
03-12-2011, 05:50 PMKilta_Firelotusna ppl just immature and can/should be reported on :3 thanks for posting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
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03-12-2011, 05:54 PMPeregrine
Yeah the threads fine. Positive. Encouraging. Thennnnn
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03-12-2011, 05:57 PMNepheraerr...uhh...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
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03-12-2011, 05:59 PMPeregrine
Ok let's just pretend none of that first page happened lol...
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03-12-2011, 06:00 PMPeregrine
Or 2nd...page you know what I'm gonna back away slowly.
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03-12-2011, 06:06 PMKilta_Firelotus
ya........ gays are not a race. sorry not trying to be mean i Just don't know a better term I'm wicked sorry. I like anyone who is nice to me. And i have nothing against anyone.