Ideas: PVP Rewards

I would like to see some more rewards from PVP. Mounts,titles, minions etc.
For example. make a an Armored Fenrir mount obtainable through PVP
things to give us PVPrs more of a variety, more of a motivation to keep pvping.

Feel free to comment your own list of ideas of rewards <:
i'll update when i think of some <: just a start!

With how heavy dragons are in the story, and with all the flying we do in Diadem, why not some GC based dragon mounts for PVP rewards? :D

People have been asking for this for a very long time. The whole Wolf Mark System is due for an overhaul. More mounts, minions, barding for your chocobo, housing items, new gear sets (especially one that is equip-able between ranks 35-50 which has been conspicuously missing), and vanity items... the list goes on.

Personally, Barding and gear are at the top of my list, followed by new minions, but we've been waiting for a long time. Only items we've seen added are the Tp regen ones so far.

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Originally Posted by Februs

The whole Wolf Mark System is due for an overhaul.

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This! I think it would be perfect if they removed rank restrictions on gear and instead made different vendors for different ranks. You technically don't have to be rank 50 to equip the top gear, but you would need to be 50 to buy it. If they made this change then they could put in all of the extra things that PVP rewards so desperately needs, like minions and furnishings and mounts, and still have them be unique and rare, since only the top PVPers would be able to access the top level stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/chBYK6l.png?1
Direct link: http://i.imgur.com/chBYK6l.png?1

Rewards are always good incentive. This is what pvpreborn answered for a poll we had awhile back. Barding is one I forgot to add that should be in there.

Honestly even If I find pretty the gears, mount etc...
I like the PvP content beside of it, but if I have to aswer for rewards: the thinghs I like most are mounts and titles,
even if my favourite reward would be more pvp istance pop x)

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Originally Posted by Beckett

This! I think it would be perfect if they removed rank restrictions on gear and instead made different vendors for different ranks. You technically don't have to be rank 50 to equip the top gear, but you would need to be 50 to buy it. If they made this change then they could put in all of the extra things that PVP rewards so desperately needs, like minions and furnishings and mounts, and still have them be unique and rare, since only the top PVPers would be able to access the top level stuff.

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Yes, exactly. I really like the idea of having rank restricted vendors. It would incorporate a grind, make people more interested in getting those ranks, and open the door to much more rewarding uses of our Wolf Marks, which, in turn, would make us want to grind for more. I was personally thinking about applying rank restriction to specific purchases, but I think having it apply to vendors is a much better idea... but... I'm still a little hesitant to remove gear restrictions (from gear specifically) for one reason and one reason only: Morale bonuses.

Right now, worrying over Morale Bonuses seems totally useless, because Wolves Den is dead on most servers (unless you're match fixing with pre-mades); however, if the upcoming wolves den updates breathe some life back into it, taking out gear restrictions could seriously screw with the game mode. For example, if a person gets to rank 50 on one GC, buys some gear, then swaps to another GC, they would instantly be able to use rank the rank 50 gear while at rank 1 without the restrictions in place. This is a problem, because Wolves Den matches are rank sync'd. Removing rank restrictions to equipment would create an environment where Rank 50 players from one GC could swap and enter Rank 1 matches with another and totally faceroll their opponents. I like Morale Bonuses, and I believe players should get to use the rewards they earned, but not at the expense of totally destroying fresh players by exploiting the system.

Also... to be perfectly honest, I'm still holding a candle that SE will smarten up and remove the morale restrictions from Frontlines. They should not be there in the first place. It's a competitive game mode. There is no reason that rank 50 players should be denied the advantage they worked their butts off for, or, worse yet, be outscored by PvE gear from players who are at rank 1 but happen to have a raid group and spammed the living heck out of Savage Alexander.

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Originally Posted by Februs

Also... to be perfectly honest, I'm still holding a candle that SE will smarten up and remove the morale restrictions from Frontlines. They should not be there in the first place. It's a competitive game mode. There is no reason that rank 50 players should be denied the advantage they worked their butts off for, or, worse yet, be outscored by PvE gear from players who are at rank 1 but happen to have a raid group and spammed the living heck out of Savage Alexander.

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I disagree completely, player skill should always be the deciding factor not gear. That's effectively giving a rank 1 a knife, and a rank 50 a gun.

Just because you have suffered the queues or had more games, doesn't mean you should have an stat wise advantage. You should however as a rank 50 have a more deeper understanding of targets to hit and when you need to gtfo, along with a more tactical awareness.

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Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru

I disagree completely, player skill should always be the deciding factor not gear. That's effectively giving a rank 1 a knife, and a rank 50 a gun.

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Nonsense. Even with Morale stat bonus, the difference in gear between PvP gear and PvE gear (which you can easily get without any skill whatsoever just by paying for it with poetics) is minuscule at best. So the analogy of giving rank 1 a knife and rank 50 a gun is way off the mark. Both players have a sword. The PvP player just has a slightly sharper sword.

Secondly, as it is now, players who simply bought their gear using Esoteric (which they can now update freely using weekly runs of Void Ark) have a slightly better edge than those who did the grind for PvP bear. Considering that grinding to 50 requires a HUGE amount of matches, even total moron would accumulate the experience, tactical awareness, and pvp skill you're talking about. Yet, the PvP player is given a duller sword than the guys who just run daily rolls to get Eso... How does that make sense?

You could call it a crutch for the PvE players, I suppose, but that's not accurate either. There is nothing stopping the experienced PvP players from equipping that gear either. In fact, it is FAR MORE LIKELY that a PvP player is going to work out the numbers and deduce which gear set combinations are better for their PvP loadout than a PvE players, so they're already being given the "gun," as you say, and there's really nothing wrong with that. Part of being skilled at pvp is knowing what gear to use and what gear to avoid. A player taking advantage of the right stats in a PvP environment is using skill to gain the edge.

Besides, now that Void ark is giving out free upgrades to ilvl 210, taking the morale restrictions out of PvP is not giving rank 50 players an advantage. It would be leveling the playing field with the no skill PvE gear.

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Originally Posted by Februs

Part of being skilled at pvp is knowing what gear to use and what gear to avoid. A player taking advantage of the right stats in a PvP environment is using skill to gain the edge.

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Disagreed. It takes 10 seconds or less to google what the best PvP gear is for your class, thanks to ambitious theorycrafters.

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Originally Posted by Kassiekane

Disagreed. It takes 10 seconds or less to google what the best PvP gear is for your class, thanks to ambitious theorycrafters.

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Also disagreed. Go ahead and google it. First results you get for Dragoon is actually about the best Dragoon rotation (which is what theorycrafting is more commonly used for) or PvE gear sets. There's barely anything about gear... most likely because we don't have the variety to properly create useful sets.

Don't get me wrong, you're not far from the mark. Figuring out which gear is BiS for your job is not difficult by any stretch of the imagination, but that doesn't disprove anything that I said. In fact, one of the reasons that the BiS is so easy to figure out is because there is a lack of gear available, and the gear that is available is made even more limited because of restrictions on Morale Bonuses. It also doesn't change that fact that most BiS loadouts for PvP are theoretically a mix of PvP and PvE gear (this would be the case if Morale bonuses were allowed). Dedicated PvP players would be interested in taking the extra step to figuring out what works best. Casual players often just go with whatever they have, and might not even know there's a difference.

It also doesn't change the fact that item lvl 210 gear is an easily obtained by anyone and everyone who can buy Eso gear and upgrade it using Void Ark spoils... yet people complain about morale bonuses that only a small fraction of the PvP community could even take advantage of and really wouldn't change anything, because it would be competing with an item level that is now replacing the standard for PvE.

I'll just crapshoot a couple of ideas here:

- PvP themed house furniture (I'd like an allagan tomelith in my FC's front yard);
- Tradable minions (for selling on the MB);
- Emotes (example: /huzzah with a GC flag in your hand);
- Chances to receive crafting and melding items other upon leaving a match after it's over;
- Gil rewards depending on which place your GC ranked during a match;
- Being able to buy Clan mark logs or similar items through Wolf Marks
- Mounts of course! I wish they'd add a variation of the following:

http://i66.tinypic.com/x3a58m.png

More minions/mounts/housing stuff etc for higher ranks might make PVP more interesting for people, Armored fenrir? i would say no. Would be a slap in the face to those who farmed 1kk MGP For a plain fenrir :P

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Don't wanna see anything tradeable tbh. Whats the point then in having a high rank?

I hope we get fancy mounts!

Maybe not an armored Fenrir but something like an Allagan vehicle of sorts would be really cool.

Like someone said earlier, a Allagan Tomelith would be really cool as a housing item.

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Originally Posted by RedHerb

I hope we get fancy mounts!

Maybe not an armored Fenrir but something like an Allagan vehicle of sorts would be really cool.

Like someone said earlier, a Allagan Tomelith would be really cool as a housing item.

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A dragon. Allagans are all about enslaving dragons right? Lets get something similar to the Twintania mount as a PvP reward.

PvP Fist Bump make it happen. It just screams manly we just killed everyone fist bump :) Well as healer i mainly just watched everyone die but still, go team!

I personally don't like that they removed the rank restrictions from the old gear i100/i110. If they were going to remove the rank restrictions, at least make it so that you can only dye that piece of gear if you had the required rank. I know a lot of people that are upset that they removed the rank restrictions for this gear. I really hope they don't do this for the i180 because Rank 50 isn't something that should just be discardable after another expansion releases.

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Originally Posted by Chaelyn

I personally don't like that they removed the rank restrictions from the old gear i100/i110. If they were going to remove the rank restrictions, at least make it so that you can only dye that piece of gear if you had the required rank. I know a lot of people that are upset that they removed the rank restrictions for this gear. I really hope they don't do this for the i180 because Rank 50 isn't something that should just be discardable after another expansion releases.

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The rank 50 stuff should never have had a rank. It should have been the new starter set at 60. Since they didn't adjust the morale on the old stuff to make i i150 or any old sets. And yes I know pvp gear isn't a big deal in pvp, but it doesn't hurt to look a little stylish when throwing it down.

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Originally Posted by Stormrider

The rank 50 stuff should never have had a rank. It should have been the new starter set at 60. Since they didn't adjust the morale on the old stuff to make i i150 or any old sets. And yes I know pvp gear isn't a big deal in pvp, but it doesn't hurt to look a little stylish when throwing it down.

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It makes a slight difference but not super big. But if they plan to release higher iLevel PvP gear (i200, etc) then yea I agree, the i180 currently shouldn't have a rank, but the higher end ones should.