Ifrit's Horn + Undersized Party; How does this work?

Does anyone know if the item Ifrit's Horn is obtainable with the Undersized Party setting?

One of the conditions listed under undersized party is: "Defeating enemies will yield no EXP or items."

If ifrit's horn drops directly into your inventory does that make it impossible to obtain? The only primals that had the items switched to the treasure chests are extremes.

Or did the horn always drop inside the chest after defeating ifrit?



TY all for your replies I would love to know since Ifrit's Horn costs 1million on my server now. I want to make the minion but i'm not paying that. If I can solo ifrit hard I would love to just farm my own horn to make the new minion.

With the release of todays patch, all materials dropped from primals i.e Ifrits Horn have since been moved to the chest - If you are lucky enough to get one to "drop" it will now be in the treasure chest once you defeat the primal :)

Quote from the patch notes:

"[2.0] Items that dropped directly from boss enemies will now drop from treasure boxes in the following duties:

The Bowl of Embers (Extreme) / The Howling Eye (Extreme) / The Navel (Extreme) / Thornmarch (Extreme) / The Whorleater (Extreme) / The Striking Tree (Extreme) / Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Extreme) "

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...84c6b6a84#item

Nice, which in turn means the 5mil Inferno horns should plummet? :D

Basically, because they only changed the items to put in the chest in the Extremes you will need to do Ifrit Extreme in order to try and obtain the Hard Mode item as the Extreme's may drop both items.

I managed to solo ifrit hard in 15 minutes that's why i was asking. I'm not after the inferno horn or whatever the extreme one is called. I need the hard mode item for the wind up ifrit minion

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Originally Posted by Bloodb

I managed to solo ifrit hard in 15 minutes that's why i was asking. I'm not after the inferno horn or whatever the extreme one is called. I need the hard mode item for the wind up ifrit minion

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Mind if I ask which class you used? I soloed him with an ilvl 187 SMN but I'm caster rusty af so I prolly took a bit more of time.

warrior

Still would like to know if this can drop in hardmode under undersized party :/

15 is about how long it took me for the Hardmode as well as AST. I'd have a youtube link but apparently youtube hates me and quality lol.

Ifrit hardmode

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Originally Posted by Bloodb

warrior

Still would like to know if this can drop in hardmode under undersized party :/

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If it drops from a chest, undersized can be done.

Hate to double post but wanted to ask, has anyone seen the items drop in the chests yet? I have seen the MB explode with extra (yet they still asking insane price) so I assume so but is it a roll item like the Primal gear or pony or is it just randomly given to a player?

I ask mostly cus I am joining farms simply in exchange for the horn (as I dont need the pony), want to make sure I am not wasting time joining. xD

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Hate to double post but wanted to ask, has anyone seen the items drop in the chests yet? I have seen the MB explode with extra (yet they still asking insane price) so I assume so but is it a roll item like the Primal gear or pony or is it just randomly given to a player?

I ask mostly cus I am joining farms simply in exchange for the horn (as I dont need the pony), want to make sure I am not wasting time joining. xD

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Saw the whisker in a chest in mog ex, its rolled on like any other chest item

Thank you, have you noticed drop rate by chance? I know i've been at it for about 2 nights with about 10 or so runs and have seen nothing.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Thank you, have you noticed drop rate by chance? I know i've been at it for about 2 nights with about 10 or so runs and have seen nothing.

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60+ mog ex runs at about 2 to 3 mins each has dropped 3 whiskers in total, drop rate appears to be unchanged

Greetings,

As mentioned in Patch 3.1 notes, we have made it so that specific extreme primal items that used to drop directly from the boss will appear in treasure boxes while using the undersized party option. The undersized party option cannot be used to obtain Ifrit's Horn as it is obtained from the "Hard" version of the fight, so you will need to complete the Bowl of Embers (Hard) in a non-undersized party. This adjustment was put in place to make it easier to obtain items such as Kingly Whisker, which was highly requested.

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Originally Posted by Zhexos

Greetings,

As mentioned in Patch 3.1 notes, we have made it so that specific extreme primal items that used to drop directly from the boss will appear in treasure boxes while using the undersized party option. The undersized party option cannot be used to obtain Ifrit's Horn as it is obtained from the "Hard" version of the fight, so you will need to complete the Bowl of Embers (Hard) in a non-undersized party. This adjustment was put in place to make it easier to obtain items such as Kingly Whisker, which was highly requested.

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Um, not that its hard, but doesn't that defeat the purpose?

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Um, not that its hard, but doesn't that defeat the purpose?

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May I ask, what purpose is this change defeating? The Extreme Primal items are the valuable one, while the hard mode items are fairly easy to come by, this adjustment has made it easier for us to obtain the extreme mode items and I think that was the purpose.

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Originally Posted by WellFooled

May I ask, what purpose is this change defeating? The Extreme Primal items are the valuable one, while the hard mode items are fairly easy to come by, this adjustment has made it easier for us to obtain the extreme mode items and I think that was the purpose.

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Never mind, there probably is a second version of the horn in ex.

I was going to confirm that at least the kingly whisker does drop in undersized.. But Zhexos' post is kinda confusing..

If you do a ex primal the normal way, not undersized, the items do not drop in a chest but the way they used to? And since items don't drop in undersized, and they didn't implement putting it in the chest for the hard modes, then it would literally be impossible to obtain it from undersized hard mode?

Just sounds kinda confusing lol

Basically to simplify the post.

Extreme Undersized - Chest
Extreme Normal - Normal random drop it seems as its only in the chest for undersized
Hardmode Undersized - 0% chance of ifrit horn

Now granted if Extreme Normal still had it drop from Ifrit + in chest. I can see some groups farming in normal for the chance at double drop...

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Basically to simplify the post.
Now granted if Extreme Normal still had it drop from Ifrit + in chest. I can see some groups farming in normal for the chance at double drop...

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I guess the items from EX just turned into a chest item, so it doesn't really matter if undersized or not. So no double drop, that wouldn't make much sense to me.
Or did I missed something? Meh, just re-read the post from Zhexos. Just sounds like undersized parties get the chest. But that's weird, why not turn the item into a chest item altogether? (at least for EX)

shame this cannot undersized :x

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Originally Posted by BiBi___

shame this cannot undersized :x

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?? You can undersize any of the EX primals from ARR.

They are asking after the hard mode drop, not the ex mode drop. Dev confirmed that the hard mode item will not drop running undersized. Therefore, Ifrit (HM) cannot be undersized for the drops. Which is what I believe that comment was about.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

?? You can undersize any of the EX primals from ARR.

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