Can we have more light steel outfits for glamour?

We already have light steel Galerus and Subligar and it would be nice to be able to get something

It doesn't need to be fancy, just make the low level Cuirass, Sabatons and Gauntlets into the glamourable light steel variety. This way all jobs will have a basic armor available for glamour

It doesn't (or should) have to be the heavy armor type tank have.

In other words, make a light steel variety of this:
http://tenderfeel.xsrv.jp/mistyrose/...ed_Cuirass.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...aVcIWnFP5yKnme

Also make them for all classes.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Also make them for all classes.

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That's kind of what the Light Steel set is. But mind, this will likely never happen as this would effectively make Dated gear craftable again and Square has pretty much declared the original 1.0 armor will never be craftable again when they smacked it with the Dated title and removed it's recipes... back in 1.0.

The devs have gone back on their words plenty of times: they mentioned that the awards from 1.0 won't be in 2.0, yet we're getting most of them. Even the star spangled subligar (a reward for fishers) ended up available for everyone now.

I don't know about dated gear, but from what I know they look slightly different from gear in 2.0 + they can't be dyed.

By having light steel variety of the low level tank set, people will have a basic tank look plus it'll be dyeable

So basically you want non tanks to look like tanks?

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Originally Posted by Slappah

So basically you want non tanks to look like tanks?

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Tanks get to look like bunny waiters or courtesans.

So...what's the issue?

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Tanks get to look like bunny waiters or courtesans.

So...what's the issue?

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Tanks can't look like a ninja, or a caster or a healer though

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Originally Posted by Slappah

Tanks can't look like a ninja, or a caster or a healer though

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Sure they can. There's plenty of low level equipment various classes can use to look like others. Patch notes had an example, actually. There's a low level Cowl that any class can equip. Foestriker is a light armor set that tanks can wear, etc.

The issue is what defines a role. Square wants the roles clearly defined. A swimsuit or ineffectual dress doesn't define a role. Plate armor defines a role. A better argument would be to say 'tanks can wear robes so...' A tank could run around looking like a caster until they draw their weapon. But this only applies to robes prior to level 50 where, without glamour, a tank wearing a robe would be a pretty poor tank. The roles are clearly defined and this is how Square wants it.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

The issue is what defines a role. Square wants the roles clearly defined. A swimsuit or ineffectual dress doesn't define a role. Plate armor defines a role. A better argument would be to say 'tanks can wear robes so...' A tank could run around looking like a caster until they draw their weapon. But this only applies to robes prior to level 50 where, without glamour, a tank wearing a robe would be a pretty poor tank. The roles are clearly defined and this is how Square wants it.

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When they first gave this explanation I was a little lost in thought about it.
But as time went on, and I noticed I can clearly pick out peoples current classes at a glance, I realized they had the right idea. Swimsuits and other glamour gear aside, people wearing gear of level, even if glamoured with different gear of level, can generally be looked at and said "Oh, that's a tank." or "There goes a healer!"
And this is, in a way, very nice.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

But this only applies to robes prior to level 50 where, without glamour, a tank wearing a robe would be a pretty poor tank. The roles are clearly defined and this is how Square wants it.

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I fail to see how this has anything to do with "defining a role".

Regardless, player customization > some mystical "defining a role". I earned the gear; I should be able to glamour it however I want.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

The issue is what defines a role. Square wants the roles clearly defined. A swimsuit or ineffectual dress doesn't define a role. Plate armor defines a role. A better argument would be to say 'tanks can wear robes so...' A tank could run around looking like a caster until they draw their weapon. But this only applies to robes prior to level 50 where, without glamour, a tank wearing a robe would be a pretty poor tank. The roles are clearly defined and this is how Square wants it.

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Except the OP was specifically requesting low level armor that you can wear across classes. Tank is the only role with locked armor at really low levels.

Which is why I ask for light steel ___ for glamour options

Starting 3.1 this will be possible:
http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/cc5...e7308e_100.png

Let's also not forget the Woad, Orthodox and Sharlayan and more gear that are just merely pallet swaps of each other. Some mage gear already already have light (steel?) plating to them like the Gordian and Law sets. Odin also gives a full gauntlet of mages.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

The issue is what defines a role.

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If I had to take a very wild guess, I would say: The weapon?

You know, the thing that can't be glamoured into anything but another weapon of that type? The one thing that if exchanged causes our class and thus role to shift? The thing that defines our skills...?

Everything else is, like, irrelevant. You can make a caster in a light steel Galerus + Subligar, a tank in a skimpy outfit that offers no protection, a tank in robes, a DPS in a tuxedo. And you can glamour everything in crafting gear, the adept's thighboots being one of the more popular options these days. If heavy armor truly defines the tank role, then they most definitely should not be allowed to glamour anything but. And that would suck.

I'm a healer, but some more armor for us would be a nice change, especially some gauntlets. Currently I have the Aurum Regis Sollerets of Healing glamoured (which resemble heavier armor, going against what SE said previously), but it's a bummer there aren't any gauntlets to match (at least not any that go past the elbow and hide puffy sleeves). Tanks can glamour low level robes if they wish, so it's only fair that casters start getting some more options, at least imo.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

The issue is what defines a role. Square wants the roles clearly defined. A swimsuit or ineffectual dress doesn't define a role. Plate armor defines a role. A better argument would be to say 'tanks can wear robes so...' A tank could run around looking like a caster until they draw their weapon. But this only applies to robes prior to level 50 where, without glamour, a tank wearing a robe would be a pretty poor tank. The roles are clearly defined and this is how Square wants it.

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I broke down in a fit of confusion and tears when I had to fight Unei and Doga clones in ST for the first few hundred times... I mean... they were wearing tank gear yet casting magic... my mind was utterly melted from confusion.

Same for when I saw Yda fighting as what I thought was a DRG... as she had... the tank and dragoon sabatons on... it wasn't until two hundred hours later I realized she was punching this whole time!

If you didn't notice, this is colossal sarcasm, and when Yoshi stated "we don't want people getting confused" I thought to myself "gee, he must think us right idiot's if we can't pick a role out via WEAPONS and ANIMATIONS or EFFECTS" but then I laughed as I realized he was only joking (right?).

Sorry if that comes off, overly sarcastic, but this whole reasoning along with that response from Yoshi is baffling... I'm sure any class can wear a suit of light armour without people breaking down in hysterics and asking a server what class they were.