What update would make you instantly end your subscription?

If SE starts releasing cash shop BiS items or real life money for game currency, I'd probably call it a day :o

Other than what you said I doubt there is anything they would realistically add that would make me unsub tbh

Game becoming F2P supported by cash shop, everyone else would end their sub as well.

"We are now moving to a F2P model-"

Yeah nope.

Removing PVP, or pulling a bard on Summoner (reworking the mechanics of the job)

"We're removing combat from the game completely."

"We're forcing you to be in a party at all times for all content, including gathering and GS mini-games."

"You can now only play the game for a maximum of 1 hour a day before being kicked offline with a 24 hour wait time before being allowed to log back in."

Basically stuff like that that would completely prevent me from playing the game in most situations.....

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

"We are now moving to a F2P model-"

Yeah nope.

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The game's cash shop is only slightly better than WildStar's and that's F2P.

Selling anything pay to win in the cash shop, making all items that would have normally be in the game such as craftable sets (Thav) in the cash shop only, all original mounts in the cash shop only, etc. Just abuse of the cash shop model in general really.

Homogenizing the gameplay of my main job even more with their counterpart (BRD/MCH).

Cash Shop giving practical items.

Another 6 month content desert.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

"We are now moving to a F2P model-"

Yeah nope.

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Also if the difficult raid continues to be as horribly designed as Savage Alexander currently is.

What would kill my want to play... making PvP mandatory for any non-PvP progression.

Probably 3.1

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

Probably 3.1

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Anti-hype?
:(
actually that's not a bad thing since hype can go out of control and eventually leads to being a disappointment no matter how good (since the hype was too strong)

Still though I'm p stoked for 3.1.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

What would kill my want to play... making PvP mandatory for any non-PvP progression.

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^This. Really though, I can't think of anything else that would seriously make me reconsider cancelling my account - if I could put up with FFXI's nonsense aspects and enjoy the actual great parts of the game for a decade, I don't see there ever being anything happening that would make me say "That's it, I'm out of here, I'm ending my account now!"

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

What would kill my want to play... making PvP mandatory for any non-PvP progression.

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considering PvP is nearly impossible for us that enjoy it, I think youre safe :)

when they took away "complex" stats and bonuses like what we use to have on AF and simplified the game into the ground.....that's when I would have jumped ship....getting slightly better.

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Originally Posted by MihaelB

If SE starts releasing cash shop BiS items or real life money for game currency, I'd probably call it a day :o

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These are ONLY things that would make me instantly unsub and never look back.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

What would kill my want to play... making PvP mandatory for any non-PvP progression.

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Aw, that's actually something I'm hoping for, a little bit..xD

I don't think there is ANYTHING that would make me instantly leave. In any case I'd stick around for a bit and see how bad it gets and try to get the devs to change their mind through the forums. Then I'd slowly and silently leave if the outcome is too undesirable^^°

But for things that have to potential to trigger the above-mentioned scenario:
- the obvious CS giving mandatory items/F2P model answer
- more nerfs to the point where i can LITERALLY afk during runs and still clear content
- taking most of the overworld away and putting all content into instances
- if the community gets any worse than how it is now, I actually might just insta-quit at some point .-.

"We are now adding open world PVP"
When I heard there would be PvP in XIV I was like 'If it's open world pvp I'm not even going to touch this game". Thankfully, Yoshida was smart enough not to go that route.

Or if they stop focusing on creating a good main storyline/quests/lore. (aka the main reason why I play XIV)

Also, if they went and made it mandatory to be a member of Team Visa (aka p2w)... I'd probably be gone and fast. =\

I will echo the sentiments of those before me. If FFXIV ever went F2P, I'm out.

Also, if they totally change the way one of my favorite jobs plays again. I may also consider unsubbing. Bard was my favorite job before WM, now I dont entirely love it anymore but I don't entirely love another class the way I enjoyed Bard either.

Tbh, the retainer renting (with all things considered: subscription, inventory clutter, etc) is already pushing it...

If PvP doesn't get reworked with a good use of morale, reasonable incentive to rank up, removed gc requirements and a brand new mode that has a huge map with no RNG by the end of next year, I'd probably move on. Right now its just a vile looking room filled with ghosts who just stay there just to be. Its only testament to how much they don't care if these things are not changed. We may be the 5% of the player base, but we're your subscribers too you know.

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Tbh, the retainer renting (with all things considered: subscription, inventory clutter, etc) is already pushing it...

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For this i hope we can share housing also with our alts on the same account. Selling your stuff between your characters for 1 gil like during 1.0 (put it into the sell slots of your retainer, switch to the alt, click on the retainer to buy everything fast). Without house sharing it will be only possible into 1 direction if you don't want to buy a house also for the alt.

If samurai was a tank in 4.0.

I'm going to have to agree with unrestricted Open world PVP. ((I wouldn't mind duels. In certain locations so I don't keep getting "Sefiroth Bishy wishes to duel you" messages all the time.))

I would say..removing glamouring.

Adding classes/jobs and new races to the Mog Station. Adding content ingame that requires items that you need to buy from the Mog Station, would also make me instant end my subscription and uninstall this game.

The expansion of the cash shop has me on edge. People often draw the line at P2W items, but for a subscription based game, I draw the line before that point. If it gets to the point where new glamours are created exclusively to be sold on the Mogstation, I'm out. If SE wants me to pay money for cosmetics on a regular basis, then I'd rather go to a freemium game that does it better. Minfillia's outfit has me uneasy, but that's still recycling. My concern is if they're using sub dollars to create content that can't be acquired solely through a sub.

An update that will stop future updates will make me stop :D

open world pvp

Losing my small house that I worked so hard for...and with the 45 days inactivity reclaim incoming on 3.1, that possibility is very high now.

Removing the chat box.

This is actually the reason i havnt bought ESO, it has no chat box, in an mmo..Really.


I dont voice chat often, so no chat is the biggest dealbreaker

More female gear than male gear

I love pvp, well Seal Rock. I wish they would change the animal themed gear and add more maps. Plus new music, as a major player of pvp the music is getting old.

Oops read the topic wrong.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Another 6 month content desert.

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Um... 4 months, 2 weeks since 3.0 launched.

3 months, 3 weeks since Alexander/Esoterics/Scrips launched.

Considering you spent at least a month on having some level of fun with that new progression content you can really only refer to it as a "2 month content desert" as best, depending on your perspective.

But not even close to 6 months regardless.

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Originally Posted by Eul

More female gear than male gear

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But, isnt this already happening right now? Hence the many threads where players are asking for more exclusive male glamour outfits?

A reworking of NIN on the level of BRD's rework in 3.0. I hate significant class overhauls that completely change gameplay style (I finally got BRD to 60 and can't stand it, and I was nowhere near a BRD main in ARR--I can't imagine how the career BRDs feel).

I wouldn't necessarily quit over this--it would really depend on the nature of the overhaul--but this happened for my mains in WoW a couple times and I ultimately unsubscribed, going back to FFXI of all things.

"Crafted gear is now the best in the game."

Nope.

The release of a decent mmo.

I mean, FF XIV es not bad and I like it. It's probably the best MMO on the market now.

But I don't really like the orientation that it's taking.... So if they release something decent I woud probably changue.

Not for Wildstar or ESO. ESO....Just no. Wildstar..... I don't like the esthetics and anyway I tryed it at the release and the optimization was soooo bad that in a computer in wich I can play FF XIV and max settings I wasn't able to play smoothly at the lowers settings... So, no.

What would make me quit the game... hmm, I guess for me it's more attuned to the community. The community on Odin is OK but not brilliant (we seem to be the most toxic of the EU servers, and if EUW League of Legends is anything to go by, the EU community is the most toxic in general). That and if SE were like "You pay £15 for every 10 abilities used" or something like that. I don't mind paying a monthly subscription, but when you arbitrarily limit the number of lives or abilities etc behind a wall, meaning a hardcore player like me ends up having to burn even more to enjoy the game, that doesn't fly with me. It's the reason I refuse to touch Candy Crush Saga with a 10 hectare barge pole.

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Originally Posted by Elvin

The release of a decent mmo.

I mean, FF XIV es not bad and I like it. It's probably the best MMO on the market now.

But I don't really like the orientation that it's taking.... So if they release something decent I woud probably changue.

Not for Wildstar or ESO. ESO....Just no. Wildstar..... I don't like the esthetics and anyway I tryed it at the release and the optimization was soooo bad that in a computer in wich I can play FF XIV and max settings I wasn't able to play smoothly at the lowers settings... So, no.

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Yeesh, is WildStar really that badly optimised? Installed it on my PC but yet to play it. Not sure if I even will bother if what you say is true.

Yes, WildStar is that badly optimized. At least it was at launch.

The first areas (the ones from lvl 1-15, more or less) are ok, but after that things start to get ugly, and in 25+ areas it was hardly playable to me,, as I say, in a computer that can manage FFXIV 1080p max settings.

Yeah, not that much is needed, but come on, WildStar has almost the same graphic appearance than WOW XD