[2.0] In an effort to curb RMT activities, the number of friend requests players can send per day (Earth time) will be limited to 5.
* The friend request counter will be reset daily at midnight (Earth time).
it's a step! We'll get somewhere!
Thank you SE for listening, you're the best! :)
RMT 3.1 Nice!
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11-07-2015, 07:00 AMKingOfAbyssRMT 3.1 Nice!
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11-07-2015, 07:02 AMVespar
I was sooooo happy when I read that!
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11-07-2015, 07:04 AMMilesSaintboroguh
It is indeed a good first step. Of course RMTs will now start spamming other chat channels, but those are very easy to filter.
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11-07-2015, 07:07 AMLucke
Next is "You may only send a /tell to 5 players per 24 hours. Players on your friend's list do not count towards this limit."
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11-07-2015, 07:11 AMFreyyy
Or they'll just create more characters
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11-07-2015, 07:12 AMLuckeUnless the limit is account wide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freyyy
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11-07-2015, 07:14 AMLeeraSorlan
A smarter design would be multi choice options..
"do not receive tells"
"do not receive tells from anyone but friends"
"do not receive friend requests"
"do not receive friend requests from anyone besides friends of friends"
This right here stops it 100%.
Alternativly, disabling tells from any1 under level 10 or so helps a lil.
I dont see this friend thing really impacting too much, helps yea, but barely -
11-07-2015, 07:14 AMEvergrey
I guess the RMT differ from server to server. Personally I have not had any RMT /tell or friend requests in days, weeks even. Well, to be honest, I got a /tell 2day, but other than that.
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11-07-2015, 07:29 AMAskaRayThat still takes time to do (even by just clicking through stuff), so it'll still help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freyyy
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11-07-2015, 07:56 AMKhalitharQuote:
Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan
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11-07-2015, 08:01 AMCelaine
I really wish they would set that limit to 7 people instead of just 5. If I've been in a FATE party or a hunt party or run with a really great group from party finder, I'd like to be able to add the whole party to my friend list to run with later.
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11-07-2015, 08:26 AMWelsper59It's all a botted 24hr process anyway, so these sorts of things don't do a lot. To stop automated actions, you need to actually take measures to prevent the act entirely (such as the always-asked-for filtering options). Implementing stuff like limiting friend request totals does next to nothing, since that's an inconvenience action... bots can't feel inconvenienced. It'll stay the tide slightly, but FR's have always been the less frequent action than /tell, even before the free account FR change.Quote:
Originally Posted by AskaRay
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11-07-2015, 08:42 AMGunspec
Wait... what? I'm extremely anti-social, and even I have added more than 5 friend requests in a single day. What happens when you join a new FC, and immediately start making friends with them? Or what happens if you are introduced to a friend's friends, or start a new character on the same server, or decide to leave an old FC but you try to add people to your friend list before you go?
Sure, you could ask people to send the friend request to you, instead of vice-versa, but what person thought this out and said "yeah, five is a good restriction".
How about five per hour, or attempting to send more than 10 per minute flags your account for immediate communication blackout? What we have is a game where SE fails to police and enforce RMT rules, and the best they can come up with are barriers that affect normal players. (No sending mail to characters on the same account)
How long do you think it will take before 5 friend requests is changed to 8-10? I give it until patch 3.15. They never give any of these ideas the necessary amount of thought, and have to backtrack later in apology. -
11-07-2015, 08:48 AMEye_GoreRMT sends say and shouts also, and you can turn your tells off. Mine has been off for months, but I'm a hermit and don't really talk to anyone anyways.Though it does shut them all down, having the option of friends only would be very helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan
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11-07-2015, 09:10 AMNiwashiIt would stop it for those players willing to give up interaction in order to block it. Just as /busy already stops it for those same players. You can also already turn off /tell if you want. The RMT spam problem is mainly an issue for people who DON'T WANT to block that interaction. We want the spammers themselves to be stopped, so that we don't have to block interactions with regular players.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan
This Friend request change addresses only the tiniest bit of the problem, since Friend requests quit being a major part of RMT spam after Free Trial accounts were barred from sending them several months ago. I did see someone greifing Friend requests a few days ago, though (no RMT content, but just repeatedly sending and cancelling a request), so the change will help with that sort of thing. It's a good change overall, but not a very significant one, as it only addresses a relatively rare bit of the problem. -
11-07-2015, 09:44 AMZeonxLets hope its account wide, I was about to say the same thing, they will just delete character then keep sending 1 each time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucke
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11-07-2015, 09:52 AMLeeraSorlanThis is only kinda true, as there are plenty ways to communicate without tells first if its a random stranger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwashi
Going busy is also in the extreme since it disables eeeeeverything basically.
Regardless, options are options and i feel the option to enable specific tells would be one of the biggest improvements
Oh, also spammers will never be stopped, its just not do-able without putting in extreme limitations that would be more negative to real players than getting RMT msgs, so we gotta compromise a little hehe ykno -
11-07-2015, 10:15 AMNatashio
Sounds good to me... I figure by the time those scumbags reach my two characters' names, they will all have exhausted their opportunities on every character they create.
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11-07-2015, 10:45 AMAeraLureAbsolutely this. Why can't we have this and be done with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan
Filter options to not receive tells, to only receive tells from friends, to only receive tells from players over level X. Additionally the aforementioned friend request filter options. Far better than anything that's been done so far. Really want this. -
11-07-2015, 10:47 AMJim_Berry
RMTs will start submitting applications to FCs lol...
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11-07-2015, 11:18 AMAtoliMy thoughts exactly ._.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunspec
At least raise it to 7 people, so I can friendlist a whole party.. -
11-07-2015, 11:20 AMSonKevinlol, wut?****Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan
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11-07-2015, 12:38 PMAlphaFox
Eh I suppose the limit is a step up but doesn't stop the shouts/says nor the whispers and fact we still have to fill out a form. Can see how this can be a bad thing for more social people but personally as someone who has played since closed beta I have amassed a total of about 10 people on my friends list. I think just having a "/tell<level>" would be enough or mix it with a friends only tell. I doubt they would actually work to level all the bots to 50/60 just to start spamming tells to eventually start being banned for it.
Makes sense to me, your not going to know all of your friend's friends, you meet and become friends :PQuote:
Originally Posted by SonKevin
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11-07-2015, 05:25 PMJeykama
If your friend requests are DENIED 5 times in a day you are locked out for 24 hours. (I wish)
That's how I would have set it up for the same purpose but not impacting proper players. :| guess band-aid will have to do. -
11-07-2015, 07:37 PMAmelia_Pond_BehemothI think that's how I would prefer it. That is, if I'm understanding correctly. Are you saying, the limit does not go down if the friend request is accepted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeykama
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11-07-2015, 08:44 PMJeykamaWell, that's how I would have done it. You can send as many friend requests are you like in a day, but once 5 people deny your request you're locked out. Maybe you can only have 5 active friend requests at a time too to prevent someone from just mass-requesting then getting locked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth
That's not how it will be in 3.1 - 3.1 is 5 friend requests a day max. -
11-07-2015, 08:45 PMZeonxDon't give them idea's I am pretty sure that would be next step hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim_Berry
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11-08-2015, 04:17 AMMaikeruActually, this is a very good idea. If you want to keep chatting with more people via tells, just add them to your friend list. Unless you're extremely social and spam friend request, I see no problem with that first step and the implementation of what Lucke just sugggested. I'm tired of being in /busy mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucke
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11-08-2015, 06:38 AMMorningstar1337Quote:
Originally Posted by AeraLure
PS3 LimitationsCharacter Data Limitations :P -
11-08-2015, 06:47 AMVoltyblast
"After laughing for an entire day at the ridiculous idea created by Square Enix"
Well..."deep breath" I guess Square Enix loves to be unique on their own xD. I mean I don't know about you all but I don't know many games that restricts your friend requests, if any at all.
Good thing I'm kind of asocial though. -
11-08-2015, 08:14 AMSicnoTHIS. Totally this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeykama
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11-08-2015, 11:56 AMNiwashiYeah, that would have been a much better version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeykama