Mobs Returning to it's territory

This is not a bitching thread, but more of as "any suggestions?" thread.

I play FFXI for 4 years (saying that for reference).

So I was partying with a friend last night and this is probably my first time partying after the 1.19 PATCH. Didn't really know where to go so we hit up some underground tunnels (you know, where all the mole rats are at). I know through experience that Bats usually spawn when it's night time, so I did an FFXI pull (pulling to mob to our party)... and in the middle of the fight, I was holding pretty good aggro, but he decides to just leave us... so I had to go back and grab him, of course 2 bats would spawn and aggro us...

Anyways, that's the story. Is there a trick to this? or should we just fight in a camp with lower levels in case of aggros? Thanks!

It's just a different system than XI, it takes time to get used to. XIV parties tend to migrate in small circles of a crowded area killing TOGETHER instead of just gluing their asses to one spot and pulling from 200 yalms way. (I like it better.)

I'd recommend finding an area where you can either circle a large object killing the mobs around it, or running back and forth between two large crowed groups. The goal isn't to find a rhythm of repops in one space, it's to move in such a way that when you complete your path, the first mobs are back.

The circle method is best, as you can keep your chains.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

It's just a different system than XI, it takes time to get used to. XIV parties tend to migrate in small circles of a crowded area killing TOGETHER instead of just gluing their asses to one spot and pulling from 200 yalms way.

I'd recommend finding an area where you can either circle a large object killing the mobs around it, or running back and forth between two large crowed groups. The goal isn't to find a rhythm of repops in one space, it's to move in such a way that when you complete your path, the first mobs are back.

The circle method is best, as you can keep your chains.

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No it's actually a problem I believe. I get the same problem if the mob is aggressive. Chanse, please put your feedback in this thread in the bugs section.

Yeah this is a bug, I think with aggressive mobs. Was happening to me last night while I was duoing. Some of the mobs I was actively fighting would just turn around and start returning.

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Originally Posted by Chanse

This is not a bitching thread, but more of as "any suggestions?" thread.

I play FFXI for 4 years (saying that for reference).

So I was partying with a friend last night and this is probably my first time partying after the 1.19 PATCH. Didn't really know where to go so we hit up some underground tunnels (you know, where all the mole rats are at). I know through experience that Bats usually spawn when it's night time, so I did an FFXI pull (pulling to mob to our party)... and in the middle of the fight, I was holding pretty good aggro, but he decides to just leave us... so I had to go back and grab him, of course 2 bats would spawn and aggro us...

Anyways, that's the story. Is there a trick to this? or should we just fight in a camp with lower levels in case of aggros? Thanks!

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You can't pull monsters great distances from where they spawn. Due to the semi-seamless world (I say "semi" because only areas within each region are seamless), monsters will only chase you so far. As others have said, you just generally find an area of mobs of the level you want to fight, and just move around a little while you keep killing. Don't be too afraid of links, as you will get bonus EXP for them (as long as you can survive).

This isn't a bug/problem as some people are saying. They simply will not stay out of their home area for more than a certain amount of time.

It is a bug, because you can pull them a couple feet and they will suddenly run off. Although, I know SE said something about mobs running back for help, but this is a very crappy mechanic if it is indeed that way.

I don't like this a whole lot but I am learning to deal with it for now. One thing I have learned from this game is nothing is set in stone yet. So overall don't let this get you down.

Yeah I have hit a mob from a range, and its gone back to its original location. I've hit beastmen up close to have them put their weapon away while I'm still all ready to eff them up. I believe there is present boundaries for mobs and where they spawn, and we're just hitting that boundary, or if not that there is a something acting up and making the boundaries spaz (game programming is not my things so IDK just a hypothesis)

Yeah, definitely a bug. I'm surprised there aren't more people in here. This has been happening to me and my buddy as long as we've been playing (since release).

For instance, at the Ixali camp in Coerthas, you can pull a mob not even 15 yalms from where he was standing, be dead in the middle or even at the end of a fight with him, and all of a sudden he just runs back like nothing ever happened.

Extremely annoying.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You can't pull monsters great distances from where they spawn. Due to the semi-seamless world (I say "semi" because only areas within each region are seamless), monsters will only chase you so far. As others have said, you just generally find an area of mobs of the level you want to fight, and just move around a little while you keep killing. Don't be too afraid of links, as you will get bonus EXP for them (as long as you can survive).

This isn't a bug/problem as some people are saying. They simply will not stay out of their home area for more than a certain amount of time.

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I totally understand this... but I wear the distance was not that great. When the mob decided to return to their territory, I can still provoke it (so I guess it's still in provoke distance). And sorry I should have mention the range/distance better... so, no I didn't pull the mob in a long distance... just enough to be away from the circle, not like Valkurm Dune Style.. LOL.

I'm glad I am not the only one. And not to sound like those who compares the two games; I know FFXIV is different from FFXI. But I really love the partying system of FFXI, especially when it's time to EXP UP. I love that we have a TANK, a HEALER, DDs, BUFF/DEBUFFER, and a PULLER. I really pride myself in being a good PULLER (GOD I MISS MY RANGER), I actually keep track of how many times I get aggro/link on a pull (and of course curse to myself).

I also love the word CAMPING... cause CAMPING feels more of a hunt... running forward and plow through mobs as you move along feels so... barbaric... LOL. Anyways, I will stop here before this turns into a flaming thread..

If its not a bug (and they indeed do not like to leave their territory) then they need to have a spawn/aggro radius (small circle), roaming radius (medium circle) and a territorial radius (large circle), instead we have spawn radius (small circle) and roaming/territorial radius (medium circle).

The circles are from that of the monster's actual spawning position. That way you could have both types of parties (roaming and camping) because why would you limit the ways people like to level? We have solo and party why not roaming party and camping party to increase the options?

I miss pulling too. I don't like roaming parties. As a mage I do miss healing from one spot and resting when I could. I'm SORRY. haha

Yeah, it's not due to pulling them too far. I was pulling Bomb Embers in Nanawa like a couple feet and it would go back. I understand if they want them to run back for help but it needs to maintain claim and come back quickly. It either needs a lot of adjustment or needs to be canned.