I think when they add pet glamour for SMN. A lot of SCH must complain about this system too. Why they can't change pet appearance same as SMN? If SCH get it too, do you think what is the pet they should use? SMN don't have any choice. They still must force to use primal egi.
For me, I would like to get carbuncle back too but changing them to healing white-theme carbuncle such as diamond of pearl carbuncle. Moreover, I don't care if they use minion models such as Moogle, Cait Sith or Sylph with no change old fairy animation. These three minions used to be healing-support summon in past series and their appearance can match with fairy animation easily without creating new animation for them (but Cait Sith can't fly). I don't need anything about new animation or new model. I only hope to see SCH who can use moogle instead of fairy in the future.
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10-31-2015, 01:38 AMKemonologistIf SMN get pet glamour system, what is the pet that SCH should use?
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10-31-2015, 01:44 AMKling-Klang
SCH pet looks good already.
SMN pets remind me of this
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10-31-2015, 01:53 AMFeliAiko
The reason SMNs are supposedly getting this system is because SE went back on their claim to provide new Egi (notably Ramuh and Shiva). Also SCHs only deal with one fairy (Eos and Selene are two sides of the same fairy, Lily), which is different from SMNs Egis, so a Cait Sith or Moogle for SCHs would make no sense.
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10-31-2015, 01:54 AMNerisu
If the minions are gonna get attack animations from Lord of Verminion then it'd be nice if we could use them as pet glamours. It'll be locked based on type though, like for example healers get to use minions like the Wind-up Sylph or Wind-up Edvya. But yeah, I really don't see this happening ever.
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10-31-2015, 01:58 AMElvin
As a SCH, I coud really use other pets.
All this fairy things is like.... Rainbows and unicorns.
http://previews.123rf.com/images/omn...ock-Vector.jpg
Of course, there's people who like that style, but a lot of people doesn't, so... If they make something to allow to changue the shape of the pets, I don't see the problem with using it with the schollars.
Other than lore problems, of course. But well, if they're going to let people changue the shape of the primals while keeping their skills that's a lore problem too. And bikini-armors are a lore problem too. Soooo lore problems shoudn't be that important, I guess. -
10-31-2015, 02:07 AMNerisuInstead of lore I believe the real problem will be "hardware limitations".Quote:
Originally Posted by Elvin
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10-31-2015, 02:20 AMGalaktica
I honestly just want a bigger fairy...
Same look. Same animations. Same everything. Just make it like almost as big as me (full size FemRoe). I don't have any justification for this wish. I just think it'd be really dumb, but the best kind of dumb. -
10-31-2015, 02:22 AMLimecat
I want those gummy cherries.
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10-31-2015, 02:28 AMZojhaOr better yet, just put a full-sized FemRoe in a fairy costume and have her sit on your shoulder. Yes, even if you're a Lalafell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaktica
Side note: A glamour allusion to "Hey, listen!" wouldn't hurt, as long as it doesn't infringe copyright. -
10-31-2015, 02:52 AModieI can't unsee this, and from now on will believe my egis are made of gummisQuote:
Originally Posted by Kling-Klang
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10-31-2015, 02:56 AMWarlyx
as sch i want a tonberry pet ...
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...y_Wanderer.png
who wants a heal? STAB STAB!!! , im healing!!! STAB STAB!!! , more heals!! STAAAABBB mwahahah -
10-31-2015, 03:06 AMBreathlessTao
To be quite honest, I gave up on believing in pet glamours happening. :|
But if they indeed do... watch SCHs get the carbuncles for glamour. -
10-31-2015, 03:10 AMLemuria
Am I the only one who just can't get enthusiastic about pet glamors? I'm a glamor-crazed nut when it comes to outfits, and I'll literally glamor everything, no matter how low level the gear. But if all these glamors are is just a reskin, then it would just feel like a cheap way to shoehorn in avatars for no good reason. After all, they'll still have the exact same skills, so nothing would really change.
More than anything, I wanted to be able to rely more on my pet when Heavensward came out. Instead we have even less of a pet focus than before. Hell, just get rid of the summons and beef up our basic attacks. It would work out better. -
10-31-2015, 03:15 AMBreathlessTao^ basically. And I'm agreeing with this as someone who's been an ACN/SMN main ever since beta. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuria
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10-31-2015, 03:19 AMdank1
Because not everybody wins, that mentality needs to die tbh, if you want glamourable pets then play the class with glamourable pets.
Next thing youll see is mch asking for their turrets to be glam'd and after that youll see every other class asking for pets just for the sake of being able to glam those.
You should be content theyre even talking about the possibility of adding pet glam, if I was SE I wouldnt even bring up the possibility just cause then you have all the other players acting like little kids asking "what about me???"
Edit: even looking above some people arent even happy with just even getting the option to glam their pets they want even more glam options, and the glam option isnt even out yet lol.
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10-31-2015, 04:25 AMEtiken
I main sch and honestly I just want to use the carbuncles again. What is the point of making such an awesome pet in the game that nobody uses once they unlock their job? I don't need anything special, just let me swap Eos/Selene for the blue/yellow carbuncle from acn. Pleeeeease?
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10-31-2015, 09:31 AMVejjiegirlBut Warlyx . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlyx
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10-31-2015, 09:37 AMSchalaZealIt would have to be something else in color, to not think they're the dps pets. Like red (like Alphinaud's) and really-green (not teal).Quote:
Originally Posted by Etiken
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10-31-2015, 09:43 AMAveraxA moogle fairy would be pretty sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by FeliAiko
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10-31-2015, 09:45 AMWelsper59Titan-egi has always looked like chicken nuggets to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by odie
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10-31-2015, 10:37 AMYoukulm
I like my fairy just fine. I really don't think it makes sense in lore for SCH to have glamour over Lily. It makes a lot more sense for summoner as you're meant to summon primal-egis
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10-31-2015, 11:08 AMRoegadyn_BearHealing Shivs can pull off miracles when used correctly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlyx
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11-01-2015, 09:33 AMYGSLlew
Dunno about the lore, but in terms of glamouring the SCH fairies, the Bard-Moogle and White-Mage Moogle from the Moogle Guard around King Moogle Mog XIII come to mind^^
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11-01-2015, 09:40 AMDyvidhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20121116203004Quote:
Originally Posted by Kling-Klang
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11-01-2015, 09:42 AMBelhi
Moogles would be lore breaking as 'pets' for SCH. Carbuncles might work though.
Its actually perfectly fine lore wise for SMNs to get new versions of their Egis. They already meet the basic requirements to summon those egis apart from a matter of personal Aether.
Fairies on the other hand seem to be advanced, sentient magical constructs in a way similar to Carbuncles. This is why SCHs are able to interact with their Fairies the way they can. That makes available glamours for them limited lore wise. Moogles and tonberries don't fit because both are living flesh and blood creatures. -
11-01-2015, 10:33 AMLullaBell
I was kind of hoping for something more along the lines of having the option to customise the colour of our fairies (and maybe hairstyles, but mostly colours). I'd love that, though also understand why that might be wishful thinking. I too miss my carbys very much. I don't see why it couldn't work to use them for healing to be honest, and could see there being some sort of cute quest to unlock the option or something. I could easily see the job evolving in this way given that we all started as arcanists. :)
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11-01-2015, 11:32 AMRawrz
To me fairies are glorified carbuncles imbued with a kind nature and a desire to protect and mend. It's physical form is just a preference. ... but Lilly is strange. We don't create her like SMN/acn do. We call her, since we did find her, but was she created or did she exist before the first scholar?
If she existed before scholars, a glamour system would make less sense, unless you rationalize that lilly will take on the physical form that pleases you.
If scholars made her at some point, it could be just as easily rationalized as SMN / ACN.
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11-01-2015, 12:38 PMNovaLevossidaThe glamour system is better because even if we have 12 egis to choose from, the max DPS lifestyle that this game is built around will dictate we always use the same one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuria
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11-01-2015, 05:59 PMAmelia_Pond_Behemoth
The SCH glamour I would want is to make my pet look like Airy from Bravely Default.
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11-01-2015, 06:24 PMKhyan
http://gematsu.com/wp-content/upload...t2-600x411.jpg
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11-01-2015, 07:49 PMMoonleg
Why is a fairy glamour so lore-breaking?
Quest-line from the Sylphs to help perfect their GLAMOUR POWDER that makes people look like other people, and you're all set. -
11-01-2015, 07:59 PMBelhiCause while we are calling it pet glamour, the SMN pet skin thing that is coming is actually the SMN using other primal Egis who just have the same kind of abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonleg
While theoretically you could use magic to make your fairy look different it would be pretty rude to the fairy. Fairies are more partners than servants. -
11-01-2015, 08:25 PMLemuriaYou do realise they could prevent this issue by making summon swapping part of the rotation? The only reason they don't is because 'this is how it is', which isn't really a reason. We're summoners, yet we rely more on our own capabilities than we do on our pets. Heck, we could happily do decent enough DPS and never even cast a summon since most of it relies on our DoTs and Aetherflow.Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaLevossida
Since Heavensward, our pets no longer even contribute 1/3rd of our total DPS. With the new skills we gain from 50-60, it's more like 1/4th. None of those skills rely on having an avatar out, and none of our avatars get new skills past 50 (and that's only if you count Enkindle). I would have been happier with a duplicate Black mage casting one-off 'nuke' summons like the avatars of old than the DoT micro-manager we ended up with.
So yeah... can't get excited over glamors when they will function identically. What I really wanted at the end of the day is to live up to our namesake, and we really fail at that. -
11-02-2015, 12:17 AMNovaLevossidaOf course, but when you use "if they change how everything works, anything is possible" as part of an argument, it's not really much of a realistic argument. As it is, glamour is a better solution unless they revamp the entire class arbitrarily, but I'm not willing to entertain the highly unlikely possibility of that in a discussion about glamour vs. new summons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuria
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11-02-2015, 12:35 AMEidolonHonest question:Quote:
Originally Posted by Belhi
Did they say that hte Pet Glamors are actually going to change the abilities of the summoned primal to be relevent to the element that they are changed to? (I.E. if you go Garuda->Ramuh, will the attacks become lightning-aspected) or is this purely speculation? I hadnt' seen anything to suggest that they were doing anything more than letting you use different skins, so any sources would be appreciated. :) -
11-02-2015, 12:43 AMExodus-EThe closest thing we got was this (from one of the previous Live Letters):Quote:
Originally Posted by Eidolon
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3128435
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Q7. Can you please let us know the current progress for the system where we can change the looks of summoner egi?
A7. We haven’t been able to address this yet. We’ll need to make this work with all the actions and we’re going to start working on this, so please give us some more time. Even if we were going to change their appearance, we would need to create the effects, sound, and actions for each egi, so it’ll require some time. We’re still deciding if we’re going to add these as we’re done with each one, or add them all at once, so please be patient while we work on this.
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11-02-2015, 07:16 PMPomelo
I wouldn't mind a male fairy a cute lil blue/green one <3