I'm new to Frontlines and PvP so I'm a bit confused with the Morale stat. But from what I understand, it allows you to break the item level cap with it. So in PvP situations, the level 60 PvP armor would have an ilvl of 210 if it was unsynced? But since Seal Rock is synced to 150, the stat is useless in it since 150 is the cap?
So is it worth it to get the level 60 healer set for Seal Rock?
Right now I'm using Field Commanders and I find the extra INT it gives me is a very nice addition. I don't see what advantages the level 60 healer set will give.
Thanks for the help.
Best set for healers in Seal Rock?
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10-30-2015, 01:36 PMkuma_ausBest set for healers in Seal Rock?
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10-30-2015, 08:14 PMSelli
Morale does not work in 72-man. Field Commander is BiS if you throw out DoTs/CC often.
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10-31-2015, 08:16 AMStormrider
I suggest you think about the play style you like. As some healers pick spell speed and some pick crit. Since the cap is so low you can really mix and match the sets. As a sch before I reset my rank I was full crit. I admit that some heals are pretty hard to get off with loss of spell speed. But lustrate crits regularly for 6k. I think adlo was just under 3k sadly it doesn't seem to crit as much as lustrate. Some whms with spell speed can heal for between 800k and a million. As a sch I am between 300k to 600k.
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10-31-2015, 07:02 PMSanghelios
As a WHM, i would suggest using Field Commander aswell. Other than Slaughter, i would also not use any Tank accessory. I am getting lb'ed once every 10 games of Sieze maybe and i think for this low rate of lbs its not needed to have 3k more health. And if they really focus you, you will die anyway, no matter if 9.5 or 12k.
So Field Commander also gives you additional INT, wich more than doubles your overall Attack power and it turns Assize into and impressive AOE finisher and you will be able to end a game with 50k damage dealt and still 600k-1200k healing. -
11-01-2015, 06:23 AMCidelI must disagree. Having over 10k HP thanks to tank accessories means the difference of being S.O.L. when you get stunned + melee charges Raw Destruction to having a fighting chance to pop you emergency CD heal on yourself and snicker as they just wasted their LB. The vast majority of melee players in Seize assume their targets won't survive Raw Destruction at any HP% (which is understandable, most never bother to break 9.3-.5k HP), and will pop it the moment they stun you, even at full HP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanghelios
Just assuming you will be focused at some point anyway is no reason to be a free kill from near-full HP from something as trivial as 1 stray melee DPS on you. -
11-01-2015, 03:39 PMSelliI agree with Sanghelios. I don't do any Vit in Seal either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cidel
Healers only get focused if they stray from the group or stand too close to the front. The best source of defense is having people around you.
Vit DPS are frowned upon because they do very poor damage, I feel the same way about vit healers. It pains me to see vit healers struggling to keep their parties alive because their HPS is so low that even spamming heals isn't enough to make up for the numbers they're missing.
[EDIT] I once ran into a full Vit WHM who had 11-12k HP, but their Medica II was ticking for 100. They couldn't even keep a tank alive in a 2v1. -
11-01-2015, 09:15 PMGuesswhatAs monk, having extra vit really helps. It depends on party setup really. Do we have 2 healers and t least 1 tank? Sure, skip vit. Only 1 healer and no tank. Equip 2 vit accessories. Having 2 vit accessories + fists of earth greatly increase survivability in seize and slaughter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
I don't trust healers from other alliances to heal me. I consider it a bonus if they do. :) -
11-02-2015, 01:30 AMfallenalexiel
I do a balance of both vit and healer accessories. I keep my hp above 10k, to survive a lb with a bit more comfort. But I have solo healed parties just fine. You have to find what works for your playstyle; sometimes I follow crowds and just heal, and sometimes I roam around trying to get nodes. Some healers like to be tanks, and just live forever, and some healers just focus on hiding in large groups keeping everyone up.
However, I do think that the tank playstyle should only be utilized if there is an abundance of healers. -
11-02-2015, 03:47 AMStormrider
The burst abilities of a decent dps is well over 14k, not counting limit breaks. Unlike at 50 the max burst could never go over the max HP you could have. But if you are the only healer the extra HP is great at 60 since it is easy to get focused in a 24 man.
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11-02-2015, 07:22 PMxxczx
Wearing one VIT acc and putting AP onto VIT will give you just about 10~k health which will survive a melee LB at full health. A good DPS will kill you with an LB if you have 12K HP or not.
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11-03-2015, 08:49 AMBeckett
Personally I go for healing gear with some tank accessories. All the healing gear in the world won't do any good to my team if I die the moment someone notices me. I don't have any INT gear, because I so rarely have time to even toss out DOTs, let alone go full offense. If I'm not healing, I'm making sure everyone has Stoneskin and everyone that died has a new protect.
For secondary stats, as always in PVP you want to avoid anything with Accuracy. Spell Speed and Crit are great. If you have tank gear, try to get stuff that has Critical Hit Rate and avoid things with Skill Speed, since that stat does you absolutely no good as a healer. Remember that you can use any gear from i180 to max level, so you've got plenty of options. -
11-03-2015, 10:53 PMSirtimidNo solo dps should be able to kill you ever if they pop stuns and cooldowns if you have 12 k as a healer. Infact you should easily be able to survive 3-4 people tagging you so long as you have cooldowns. As a scholar the only way for people to kill me if I have access to all 9 of my aetherflow stacks is if a Paladin stun locks me and 2+ dps mow me down.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxczx
I have considered running with int accessories instead of vitality, but I enjoy trolling and baiting dps too much :D. I also can keep the party fairly healthy even with my gimped mind.
That being said you CAN effectively run with no vit investment (fluid aura etc interupts those limit breaks). But with my latency I prefer the safety of a big hp pool.
TLDR; IMO there are two playstyles healers can follow: Tank and Heal or DPS and Heal. WHM can also CC and it's beautiful when done effectively. -
11-06-2015, 12:41 AMCleanse
Aetheric Burst, Retrogradation, Celestial Opposition and Holy all require you to be in the middle of danger. Having the HP can help a lot if you have a more aggressive play style. If you prefer to sit back and turret heals, VIT is not needed.
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11-07-2015, 08:33 AMSaffronI agree. I've switched between full MND and some VIT accessories and I prefer the added HP. It depends on your play style -- at the end of the runs I tend to have as much dmg taken as the tanks do. As for the left side of equips the achievement set gives INT which helps a little with our lack of cleric stance in PVP. But you're better off CC, imo. Healer dmg is lacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleanse
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11-07-2015, 08:36 AMSylkis
Healers make great tanks on vit gear
But if you like staying in the back and healing like in pve then wear what you normally wear in pve -
11-09-2015, 07:28 PMAiden_Volkov
So easy beat then, im usually WAR in pvp and when i need to kill some scholar or healer is so easy as Stun and fast doing double Fell clave with infuriate and berseker and doing in less of one second 20k of damage XD
Edit: Post for Healers with tank accesories XD they guess are safe of the beasts XD -
11-11-2015, 04:08 PMRollan
I have two sets I use.
1) Full field commander for INT nuking
2) BiS Spell Speed pieces with 1-2 VIT accessories.
Can switch between sets when you're not in battle.