It's a very depressing sight to see so often that only 4 or 8 people get to do something for a week. Any odd person out gets shafted.
Content should be made now that allows any number of people to join and mobs stats adjusts to the number of players.
Sadly, it most likely will not happen. This is to any content that deals with Free companies. What is the point of one being larger than 4-8 people if all this content is going to be limited to those numbers.
Can the 4-8 limit people stop now, please?
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10-25-2015, 10:59 PMJinrya-GekiCan the 4-8 limit people stop now, please?
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10-25-2015, 11:02 PMAdamFyi
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10-25-2015, 11:03 PMHyouretsuzan
Well if you're referring to the exploration thingy (because it's the only FC content for the upcoming patch) they did say you can have up to 2 additional parties to form a 24 man group. Urm, assuming you guys have the airships.
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10-25-2015, 11:05 PMSove92
Yea let's go in alex Savage as 15 people, I'm sure the instance can dynamically adjusts to that many players (it can't). Such features are a balancing nightmare, it's not gonna happen.
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10-25-2015, 11:08 PMFelis
We have already limits over 8
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10-26-2015, 01:31 AMraelgunWoW flexible raiding would like to have a word with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sove92
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10-26-2015, 01:50 AMWinterLunaAnd how old of a game is WoW compared to FFXIV? Give them chance to expand the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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10-26-2015, 01:58 AMraelgunFlex raiding was implemented just before WOD was released so just over a year ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterLuna
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10-26-2015, 02:01 AMWinterLunaAnd WoW is a 10+ year old game, so they've had around 9 years to implement 'flex raiding'. FFXIV hasn't been out even half of that time. People need to be patient and allow them to expand the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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10-26-2015, 02:03 AMraelgunYou mean a feature that other developers had over a year to see the feedback on? You do realise how fast LFG tool was implemented on other mmos once WoW added it in right?Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterLuna
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10-26-2015, 02:07 AMWinterLunaExcept FFXIV is a very limited game in itself.. They can't even add certain character customisation options due to limitations. They can't just suddenly implement it so every raid is able to adjust to the amount of people in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
This could be suggested for the future but this isn't going to happen any time soon. They can't even separate the horns from an Au Ra's face. -
10-26-2015, 02:08 AMYeldir
It is important to point out that FC Airship Explorations allow for 24 man premades. It is also important to point out that FCs with level 50 airships are the only way to do hard mode Explorations. This is the most large FC, big group friendly patch this game has seen since ARR went live.
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10-26-2015, 02:15 AMJijifliIt costed us raid tiers. I'm sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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10-26-2015, 02:24 AMKietsuThis right here. My own FC isn't very big, but we're decked out in airships. I'm wondering, however, if the 2-hour wait time on exploration is per-person or per-airship. If it's the latter, it's going to be hell on large FCs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeldir
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10-26-2015, 02:33 AMraelgunThey intended WOD to be short as they felt people wanted faster expansion releases ( not actually wrong there), but they mentioned that flex balancing was loads easier then they thought, you need to ask, what is SE excuse here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jijifli
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10-26-2015, 02:38 AMRoegadyn_BearPeople didn't want a single patch expansion though.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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10-26-2015, 02:40 AMraelgunI agree with this, but they did mention in advance we might just have 2 raid tiers, hate to say it, thats a promise I wish they never stuck to but that design process of wanting faster releases for expansions led to shorter raid tiers, not flex raiding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roegadyn_Bear
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10-26-2015, 03:05 AMWinterLunaThat they already had raid plans and have been focusing on those? The player base are constantly changing their minds, 'I want this nerfed,' 'I want harder content,' 'There's not enough raids,' 'There's not enough single player content'... Now for some reason everyone is complaining because they suddenly want flexible raids as priority and SE haven't got around to implementing it? Give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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10-26-2015, 03:21 AMMoonleg13 players, no more, no less. Remember that part?Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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10-26-2015, 06:04 AMIllyriaKnotfred
LOL WoW flexible raiding
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10-26-2015, 06:59 AMniwaarAirship Exploratory Missions are 2-24 people. I have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
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While these missions are not exactly what I had hoped they would be (I am still desperately looking for pop nm/hnm that require strategy and a claim system not unlike treasure maps) this content does look fun. -
10-26-2015, 07:28 AMBelhi
Two points about flex raiding in WoW people seem to be ignoring.
Firstly, Hard level versions of raiding in WoW still use a static number of players for groups (20) because flex makes balancing for the tight mechanics unfeasible.
Secondly, the flexable system is only used for raiding. So if FF14 used a WoW equivalent of Flex, it would only really apply to Alex normal mode, Crystal Tower and Void Ark which frankly don't need it.
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10-26-2015, 07:45 AMAveraxTo be fair, while all the raids (mythic excluded) scale to the number of players. There are sweet spots where the amount of players is just right so it's slightly undertuned, and easier. People were being excluded from the 'dynamic' raids because the group didn't want to go over that number. I think the magic number at the end of MoP was 14 peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by raelgun